Spyke

Syndicated from the fediverse. Read and engage on the original instance.

View original on lemmy.world

MIT Says It No Longer Stands Behind Student’s AI Research Paper

The paper said that after an AI tool was implemented at a large materials-science lab, researchers discovered significantly more materials—a result that suggested that, in certain settings, AI could substantially improve worker productivity. That paper, by Aidan Toner-Rodgers, was covered by The Wall Street Journal and other media outlets.

The paper was championed by MIT economists Daron Acemoglu, who won the 2024 economics Nobel, and David Autor.

In a press release, MIT said it “has no confidence in the provenance, reliability or validity of the data and has no confidence in the veracity of the research contained in the paper.”

The university said the author of the paper is no longer at MIT.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-behind-students-ai-research-paper-11434092Open linkView original on lemmy.world
256

24 replies

infosec.pub

MIT standing up to the pro-AI momentum tastes kinda odd, but I'll accept it.

The paper must be really fucking inaccurate for this move.

132
kescusayreply
lemmy.world

Here's the thing: They're actually a natural fit for it, because if anyone ought to understand the use cases, strengths, weaknesses, and implications of a technology, it would be a university that's centered around research on technology.

So they looked carefully at this guy's paper, realized he was making outrageous and unsupportable claims about what AI could do, failed to reproduce his results, and concluded he was full of shit. That's what we really should be able to expect from MIT.

146
piefed.social

I feel 50% of research funding should be for reproduction studies.

42

Absolutely. It might be the janitorial work of "the academy" but that work is important.

I'm actually not sure if the problem right now is funding that work or the unfortunate fact that there's rarely any accolades for it. And "publish or perish" is still too true.

6
piefed.social

it would be a great way to fund early labs to trying to get on their feet.

5

I guess most of the universities and big labs would be very opposed to this thanks to the dead corpses lying around in their caves

3
sh.itjust.works

Not just inaccurate, by the fact the author is "no longer at MIT" is a soft implication that they were kicked out (quite possibly for fraud).

34

Quick search says he was a second year PhD for 2024-2025. So doubtful about the graduation.

12
Empricornreply
feddit.nl

Or just the average AI: hallucinations galore. If you can't trust the output it confidently gives you, what's even the fucking point!?

25
lemmy.world

For LLMs, yes.

But, theoretically, AI should be extremely good at sifting through mountains of data, and much faster than all other methods we have, identifying which data a human should take a closer look at. That's what I presume this paper supposedly demonstrated.

My guess here is that a lazy student decided to take the easy path and fake data to "demonstrate" results that nobody would be surprised by and want to look closer at the data, but somebody looked anyway, probably because the student was a known slacker, and it wasn't the results of the research that surprised them, but just that the student did the research at all.

14

For LLMs, yes.

Thank you. As useful as LLMs can be under certain circumstances, they are not the only type of AI.

15

"The paper was championed by MIT economists Daron Acemoglu, who won the 2024 economics Nobel, and David Autor. The two said they were approached in January by a computer scientist with experience in materials science who questioned how the technology worked, and how a lab that he wasn’t aware of had experienced gains in innovation."

It sounds like this hypothetical materials science lab maybe did not actually exist. Actual materials scientist reached out and went "Hey, I never heard of that lab, who are they and how did they use AI?" Oh... THAT lab? Yeah, it's in Canada, you don't know it...

22
auraithxreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The guy fabricated it completely. Just made the experiment and data up and got caught when the company he mentioned in the paper sued him. What a waste of a Stanford phd.

21

Exactly, this has nothing to do with MIT being anti-AI.

A student made up a research paper and was kicked out. The fact that the topic of the research paper was AI is largely irrelevant.

Here's a story of a behavioral science professor (who, ironically, studies dishonesty) at Harvard who was caught making up results: https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184289296/harvard-professor-dishonesty-francesca-gino

You wouldn't look at that article and come to the conclusion that "Harvard is standing up to the pro-Behavioral Science momentum", because fake research has always been against the rules.

7
lemmy.world

You could boil these material scientist's jobs down to two things: discovering materials and documenting them. If AI takes over the documentation, then that leaves more time to discover.

7

Only if they don't spend more time reviewing and fixing errors in the generated documentation than they would have just writing it in the first place.

11

"If AI does the menial jobs, that leaves more time for humans to pursue the arts!"

Reality: LLMs creating AI slop and putting artists out of work.

I wouldn't be too hopeful that the humans get to do the enjoyable work.

3
redlemmy.com

Am I correct? The paper itself was not written using AI tools. It covered the user of AI tools. MIT let go of the student who wrote it.

5
gedaliyahreply
lemmy.world

Yes. The article provides more details. I'm not sure if the paper's data was fabricated or obtained unethically or both. It's not terribly clear.

5

I think that ambiguity is deliberate. They're trying to get exposure using "student used AI" ragebait by implying he did it. I've never been a reader of the wallstreet journal but seems like a horseshit publication.

1

You reached the end