There's simply nothing to do but wait for his case.
Nothing to do but get the prisons blueprints, have said blueprints tattooed onto body but covertly hidden within a being design. Then commit a serious but non violent crime to land yourself in the prison and then prison break
it's not for naught, it's for support. if you think support is useless, that's like, your opinion, man. lots of people disagree.
re: it's hopeless - counterpoint: "'you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.' --wayne gretski" --michael scott
no one will be surprised pikachu, everyone knows that there's only a slim to zero chance of a not guilty verdict. who doesn't like to root for the underdog sometimes?
The person who ceaselessly bashes their head against a brick wall hoping to knock it down will accomplish one thing, and it’s not knocking the wall down
This isn't really abnormal. He's accused of murder, and a pretty high profile one at that. It's not uncommon in the slightest for people accused of high profile crimes and people accused of murder to be held in custody pending trial.
To clarify: There are only two actual reasons that you can legally be held without bail. The first reason is that you’re considered a flight risk. The second reason is that you’re considered a danger to yourself or others if let out of prison before your trial.
For the first reason, this basically means that the courts don’t believe you would return for your trial, and would flee instead. Maybe you’re rich enough that you can afford to lose the bail money. Maybe you have international connections and can disappear to another country. Maybe you just have a history of fleeing. The Adjuster is 100% without a doubt a flight risk. He fled authorities and evaded a nationwide manhunt for an entire week. And since Luigi is accused of being The Adjuster, he is considered a flight risk.
For the second reason, this is basically the court going “you were accused of something so violent or egregious that we don’t trust you to avoid doing something similar again while out on bail.” This is most often used with cases like school shooters, serial killers, serial rapists, serial burglars, etc… Basically, the prosecutor argues that if they’re let out, they’ll just fall right back into their old ways again. But a scummy pro-corporation prosecutor could construe The Adjuster as a violent extremist who is likely to strike again.
Why are people generally in prison? Usually because they’re violent, drug addicted or at odds with the status quo.
Luigi is in prison accused of killing a man responsible for getting people hooked on drugs, marginalizing the already marginalized and poor, and ruining the lives of millions.
I think the inmates would be more likely to treat him like a hero.
People like Epstein die in prison because showing up in court runs the risk of taking down powerful people. People like Luigi always have their day to be dragged through the mud in court before they rot away forever in jail, with random reminders that they’re still alive and suffering.
Part of me wonders what discovery would come up with if they got access to united health’s database. If they want to go with the argument that it was justified; they probably could get at least some limited access.
Generally theyre not allowed to go on fishing expeditions, but they are allowed to seek documents and data directly pertaining to their defense (like a pattern of criminal malpractice.)
I remember a video right after he was taken into custody of inmates yelling out the windows about "free luigi" and "luigis conditions are terrible" of course they love him. He killed a greedy healthcare CEO, you could argue he did the world a favor.
I hope every inmate makes it clear that Luigi is cool with them and that anyone who does something similar will receive a warm welcome, that might make things interesting.
The question is easier to answer with any sympathy and understanding when you ask any given individual if they're personally planning a jailbreak on behalf of this person. At least that seems to be the calculus for what "tolerate" means here.
There's little room for parties not directly involved to work within the system and if the independence of the judiciary is under suspicion then "fight and die" is literally the prospect people would have to face to reasonably do anything about this and that's a pretty high bar, one which I doubt many would-be critics of the "fat, lazy cowards" would be willing clear themselves.
There is a lot of reasonable doubt: no matching eyebrows, different clothes, suspicious evidence processing, disconnect in time-line, weird arrest conditions...
No, he is a revolutionary, and you are a person with your thumb up your butt. And there's nothing wrong with having your thumb up your butt, but you are in denial about having your thumb up your butt.
Maybe because killing unarmed civilians is wrong. Maybe because starting armed violence is wrong. Maybe because the number of CEOs didn't decrease and healthcare isn't getting any better.
According to historians such as François Furet, the new government gave themselves unlimited power which was immediately abused by it. Only about two thirds of men gained the right to vote, favoring wealth, and none of the women, and the King was still in power. After the second round of revolution France split into three factions fighting internally which led directly into the "Reign of Terror."
And then Emperor Napoleon.
But yes, you could say the French Revolution had some beneficial long term results, now how about you defend the 200+ wars that France has been in over the last two millenium as well?
Anecdotal observation I received from a doctor’s office indicates there may be some change in the insurance industry…
Last month I saw a surgeon who does not take insurance, but her office helps people get all the pre-authorizations done to file an out-of-network claim. They told me that of the codes they bill, there’s one that used to have a 50/50 chance of getting approved. But after 12/6/24 they see it come back approved every time.
Without more data to back this up I recognize it’s not enough to say anything for sure, but this does point to insurance companies more broadly approving claims.
I'm glad you at least admit there is no significance without actual data to back the claim up. My guess is that denial rates are only getting worse with the prevalence of AI in form assessment and documentation industries, and especially with federal funding cuts and freezes to insurers.
Well I mean what are you going to do? He's in jail, accused of a crime. The government has him on a valid warrant.
Even if you wanted to break him out, he's here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Detention_Center,_Brooklyn
Good fucking luck.
There's simply nothing to do but wait for his case.
Nothing to do but get the prisons blueprints, have said blueprints tattooed onto body but covertly hidden within a being design. Then commit a serious but non violent crime to land yourself in the prison and then prison break
I just see his defense fund growing while knowing it's all for naught. Waiting for the day everyone becomes surprised pichachu because....
The person who ceaselessly bashes their head against a brick wall hoping to knock it down will accomplish one thing, and it’s not knocking the wall down
This isn't really abnormal. He's accused of murder, and a pretty high profile one at that. It's not uncommon in the slightest for people accused of high profile crimes and people accused of murder to be held in custody pending trial.
To clarify: There are only two actual reasons that you can legally be held without bail. The first reason is that you’re considered a flight risk. The second reason is that you’re considered a danger to yourself or others if let out of prison before your trial.
For the first reason, this basically means that the courts don’t believe you would return for your trial, and would flee instead. Maybe you’re rich enough that you can afford to lose the bail money. Maybe you have international connections and can disappear to another country. Maybe you just have a history of fleeing. The Adjuster is 100% without a doubt a flight risk. He fled authorities and evaded a nationwide manhunt for an entire week. And since Luigi is accused of being The Adjuster, he is considered a flight risk.
For the second reason, this is basically the court going “you were accused of something so violent or egregious that we don’t trust you to avoid doing something similar again while out on bail.” This is most often used with cases like school shooters, serial killers, serial rapists, serial burglars, etc… Basically, the prosecutor argues that if they’re let out, they’ll just fall right back into their old ways again. But a scummy pro-corporation prosecutor could construe The Adjuster as a violent extremist who is likely to strike again.
Maybe you and everyone else knows that you committed homicide, and your freedom is worth more to you than any amount of money.
Dude probably gets a standing ovation every time he enters a room.
They did it to Joe Hill.
Why are people generally in prison? Usually because they’re violent, drug addicted or at odds with the status quo.
Luigi is in prison accused of killing a man responsible for getting people hooked on drugs, marginalizing the already marginalized and poor, and ruining the lives of millions.
I think the inmates would be more likely to treat him like a hero.
I don't think it's the inmates OP is worried about.
The guards and administration want him alive.
People like Epstein die in prison because showing up in court runs the risk of taking down powerful people. People like Luigi always have their day to be dragged through the mud in court before they rot away forever in jail, with random reminders that they’re still alive and suffering.
Part of me wonders what discovery would come up with if they got access to united health’s database. If they want to go with the argument that it was justified; they probably could get at least some limited access.
Generally theyre not allowed to go on fishing expeditions, but they are allowed to seek documents and data directly pertaining to their defense (like a pattern of criminal malpractice.)
That’s irrelevant because there’s nothing they could find that would make it justified with the way it happened.
I thought the least safe place was an American school.
I thought it was in America and in need of urgent surgery.
The truth is that he may never see daylight. They want to make an example of him lest others get similar ideas.
People with nothing to lose have little reason not to follow his example and make the greedy fuckers in this society pay.
Imagine people getting diagnosed with terminal cancer forming an army?
There are stupid questions.
I mean he’s accused of premeditated murder, has the resources to flee, and I’m pretty sure “they” want a spectacle to make an example.
they wont let him get shanked by accident, and they wont Epstein him until they have their spectacle
Or until it's clear they won't get it.
I hope the prisoners treat him as a king in there
They 100% are
I remember a video right after he was taken into custody of inmates yelling out the windows about "free luigi" and "luigis conditions are terrible" of course they love him. He killed a greedy healthcare CEO, you could argue he did the world a favor.
I hope every inmate makes it clear that Luigi is cool with them and that anyone who does something similar will receive a warm welcome, that might make things interesting.
How do you know that to be true? What evidence do you have to support the hypothesis?
Even if the outcome you fear to be true comes to pass, that will not mean you were correct today.
Without evidence to support the hypothesis, you're doing nothing more complicated than guessing the result of flipping a coin.
How do you know any prediction is true? What evidence would satisfy you?
I don't hope it happens, but if it does, I do hope that it backfires on them.
True. I think even if he gets off, they’ll kill him. Remember all the whistleblower deaths in 2024? Like that.
Epstein ring a bell?
Luigi Mangione has been selected as the new pope
America is a country of fat, lazy, cowards that can't be bothered to not litter. Much less fight and die for anything besides an 80" tv.
The question is easier to answer with any sympathy and understanding when you ask any given individual if they're personally planning a jailbreak on behalf of this person. At least that seems to be the calculus for what "tolerate" means here.
There's little room for parties not directly involved to work within the system and if the independence of the judiciary is under suspicion then "fight and die" is literally the prospect people would have to face to reasonably do anything about this and that's a pretty high bar, one which I doubt many would-be critics of the "fat, lazy cowards" would be willing clear themselves.
Fat lazy coward checking in
Probably because he’s a murderer and deserves to be in prison
Alleged murder. For the time being at least we have due process.
There is a lot of reasonable doubt: no matching eyebrows, different clothes, suspicious evidence processing, disconnect in time-line, weird arrest conditions...
Let me guess, one of those innocent until proven guilty types when its your favorite pedo.
No, he is a revolutionary, and you are a person with your thumb up your butt. And there's nothing wrong with having your thumb up your butt, but you are in denial about having your thumb up your butt.
A murderer is not a revolutionary. He's just a murderer.
Maybe because killing unarmed civilians is wrong. Maybe because starting armed violence is wrong. Maybe because the number of CEOs didn't decrease and healthcare isn't getting any better.
Science demands rigorous testing of all three of those hypotheses before making a conclusion.
I present to you 15,000 years of human history. 40,000 if you count the Neanderthal extinction.
The French revolution - and most of that history - contradict your hypotheses.
According to historians such as François Furet, the new government gave themselves unlimited power which was immediately abused by it. Only about two thirds of men gained the right to vote, favoring wealth, and none of the women, and the King was still in power. After the second round of revolution France split into three factions fighting internally which led directly into the "Reign of Terror."
And then Emperor Napoleon.
But yes, you could say the French Revolution had some beneficial long term results, now how about you defend the 200+ wars that France has been in over the last two millenium as well?
What a complete non-response to my comment. You really fought this battle without fighting, Sunzu.
Anecdotal observation I received from a doctor’s office indicates there may be some change in the insurance industry…
Last month I saw a surgeon who does not take insurance, but her office helps people get all the pre-authorizations done to file an out-of-network claim. They told me that of the codes they bill, there’s one that used to have a 50/50 chance of getting approved. But after 12/6/24 they see it come back approved every time.
Without more data to back this up I recognize it’s not enough to say anything for sure, but this does point to insurance companies more broadly approving claims.
I'm glad you at least admit there is no significance without actual data to back the claim up. My guess is that denial rates are only getting worse with the prevalence of AI in form assessment and documentation industries, and especially with federal funding cuts and freezes to insurers.