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lemm.ee

Sith pick a non-evil sounding name challenge (impossible)

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edinbruhreply
feddit.it

But... That's like the whole point... No?

Like, imagine if a pope called himself Larry, just "Pope Larry", instead of picking the name of a saint

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lemm.ee

Maybe to the audience, but do the Sith believe they're evil? Does any evil person? Everyone is the good guy in their own story.

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SSTFreply
lemmy.world

Of all characters, yes Emperor Palpatine knows he is evil and he loves it. Sometimes villains are nuanced and sympathetic. Sometimes they are evil space wizards who are passionate for the game.

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nagaramreply
startrek.website

Palpatine is the absolute only instance that the evil wizards plot fucking worked.

Bro was just yucking it up between episode 2 and 6. He couldn't fucking believe how well it worked. He was so giddy.

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Cortreply
lemmy.world

And then he came back . . . Somehow

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Honytawkreply
feddit.nl

In movies there is this trope that if you don't see a corpse, then the character is probably not dead.

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Legends' Sith are mostly about might makes right. They don't really care about good or evil. Can't really speak for whatever changed, if anything, on the new canon.

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He had been gaming that name out in his head for years at that point.

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lemm.ee

We need a picture of either vader or the emperor wearing that

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lemmy.zip

How do the sith come up with these names anyways?

Are they always given by the master?

And what is the reason for doing this at all?

What does Darth Vader even mean?

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Waraughreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Darth is dark in German. Vader is Dutch for father (Vater is German for father).

George Lucas actually named Darth Vader. The content in the movies is made up.

“Dark Father”; he was given the name for fairly obvious reasons by George Lucas I would think.

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A common story, but not true. When Lucas was filming Star Wars he hadn't yet had the idea that Vader was Luke's father, hence the clumsy retcon about Vader killing Luke's father 'from a certain point of view' in Return of the Jedi. Vader is just shortened 'invader', the dutch translation is just serendipity (or proof that the force is real).

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LwLreply
lemmy.world

I have never seen "Darth" or anything similar used to mean dark in german. If that's a thing it's something both old and obcure.

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I second this. Dark would be "dunkel" in (modern day) German.

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confuserreply
lemmy.zip

So I looked into this more and basically Darth is a title given to sith lords, others have had it like Darth tyranus and Darth sidious, but here is the kicker.

Darth Vader's fatherhood was only conceived of after the character was introduced in empire strikes back, so the name was not necessarily related to fatherhood in the story and the only reason I could think of for it existing is just because it sounded cool.

A possible reason could be that Darth is a combo of dark and death and Vader is possibly short for invader.

Otherwise I'm not sure if there is any clear reason for the name that is undeniably the reason for the name.

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Waraughreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Right, but George Lucas already knew the story and he’s the one that named him.

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lemmy.world

Lucas famously make things up as he went, and retconned many things along the way.

Originally Luke's sister was a yet to be introduced character, not Leia. The film titled "Star Wars" was retroactively changed to become Episode 4. Han Solo was frozen at the end of one of the films because he wasn't sure if Harrison Ford would be back. They even changed the voice of Vader in post production, and the original actor found out when he watched the premiere. If you watch the prequels and original trilogy back to back there are glaring potholes. You can't even officially get the original versions of the movies because Lucas doesn't want them to be available.

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You can't even officially get the original versions of the movies because Lucas doesn't want them to be available.

Emphasis on "officially". Fortunately we have Harmy Despecialized and 4k77.

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medemreply
lemmy.wtf

Would you mind shortly elaborating on the plot holes ?

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lemmy.world

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Original-Trilogy-vs-The-Prequels-inconsistencies-retcons-plot-holes-and-discrepancies/id/90199

Here's just one breakdown I've found by googling. Some of these can be justified by making up theories of characters lying or making mistakes, others are clearly for the fact that they forgot details from the OT while they were writing the PT and contradicted themselves.

Potholes aside, my favourite dumb thing is that in the OT Obi-Wan was wearing farmers clothes to blend in, you can see uncle Owen wearing matching clothes. But the in PT that's apparently the Jedi uniform. Not very smart to hide out in Tatooine wearing Jedi uniform, going by the name Kenobi, and looking after a kid called Skywalker. R2D2 didn't think to mention Anakin to Luke? Or is Skywalker the "Smith" of that galaxy's surnames?

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Thanks !

Regarding that very last part of your comment (about R2D2), his and C-3PO's memory is erased at the end of EPIII by orders of Sen. Organa, so I think that'd explain it.

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I hate it when people act like this. You know there is a mythology in Star Wars and you know that is what people are discussing but instead you are taking a meta shit over everything. Find a better hobby.

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The content in the movies is made up.

You've gone too far. Take that back right now.

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After some googling, it doesn’t really seem like there is a lore/in universe explanation, which I find surprising after having the Disney EU and the legends EU. Some sith are named after a character quality, so maybe you could assume the dark side of the force revealed it to the master that named them?

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Prepend "in" to the name of the two Sith first invented.

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Insidious and Invader. It doesn't hold up with later Sith, but I'm convinced that it's the inspiration behind the first two. :::

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lemmy.world

You've gotta admit, it's catchier than "Darth YounglingMurderer"

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When my son was 1 year old he'd make a Vader breathing noise whenever he was really interesting in something. I used to call him Darth Curious.

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