Spyke
aussie.zone

Happy Birthday!

I have put in towards your present, hopefully enough other people can contribute too and get your wish.

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aussie.zone

Looking forward to drinking a toast to Peter Dutton, former member for Dickson (fingers crossed).

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aussie.zone

I have a bottle of bubbly on hand and a bottle of scotch in case it's another 2019....

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GP appt on standby to ask for some medication for these trying times, should that nightmare come to pass...

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aussie.zone

My short wishlist for today:

  • Devastating LNP loss
  • Dutton loses his seat
  • Amelia Hamer is never heard from again
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Catfishreply
aussie.zone

Clive Palmer to have a shower slipping accident with a brass instrument

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As a Malvernite, I'll be devastated if Kooyong actually votes Amelia in, too many of her signs on houses in my suburb.

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aussie.zone

They would all be good things. I'm also hopeful that my local member, Michael Sukkar, might lose his seat as well. It was very close last time - it looked like he had lost initially, then it swung back to him as the postal votes were counted. He won on a 0.2% margin, and I saw some recent polling saying he is now predicted to be leading by 0.02%, so it really could go either way.

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This Canadia wishes you Aussies the best possible outcome! You can do it!

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aussie.zone

Even though I care not for the spud, after Trump and the shenanigans about stolen elections, I am proud that I live somewhere where elections are called and there is some basic civility around the gracious defeat speech then the victory speech. This might be the bottle of bubbly talking...

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aussie.zone

I think we sometimes forget how good it is here compared to other Global North countries, especially in regards to elections, and our voting rights.

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tombruzzoreply
aussie.zone

The book From Secret Ballot to Democracy Sausage has a great history on voting in Australia and how it compares to other countries

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He handled that well, I can give him that. On what's clearly a challenging day for him personally, he's been quite dignified in defeat

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aussie.zone

Discussion about the federal election is allowed and encouraged.

Criticism about candidates, parties and pundits are all welcome.

Don’t be afraid to use the report function, a screenshot if you feel the need to.

Keep it civil and if you disagree with another user, you can either disagree with them courteously or simply down-vote and not reply.

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I feel a good life is possible , with opportunities and fairness, for the young seagoons , and all aussies 😭

i would not have had that feeling if the libs got in

we need to better manage our natural resources and taxation and then we will be gold like scandinavia

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aussie.zone

I've been really stressed for a lot of reasons (general fear of Australia choosing to be smaller and meaner and personal because I work in a environmentally/renewables aligned job that would be massively at risk) . I feel better. I hope a few of the climate aligned independents get in to hold them to account.

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Seagoon_reply
aussie.zone

shared hugs 😭

now for our friends in America to get rid of of the republicans in the mid terms next year , only 22 % of Americans voted for trump. the vast majority do not want him

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Yeah. I have been talking to a bunch of colleagues in the US lately & it's tough. They are not their government. I am just so glad we didn't go that way.

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Tofureply
aussie.zone

Beep Beep 🚚
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aussie.zone

Champers all round I reckon. Victoria deserves it. Slightly less political idiocy than usual, though there's still plenty to go around.

9
aussie.zone

Champagne for me please, and a big drink of water for the fire trucks I keep hearing drive past. I'm presuming it's my local MPs chances of keeping his seat going up in flames.

7

I'm firing up the ABC on my laptop while I've still got a few hours before my flight. Excited

6

I'm settled in with a bowl of pumpkin soup and a cheesymite scroll to await some results. 🤞

5

Kids party next door. Adults talking politics and getting fairly heated. Kids playing pass the parcel and pin the tail on the donkey. Much noise. Pray for me.

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kruetzreply
aussie.zone

When my child's old enough to make friends, I really hope we can avoid talking politics with the friends' parents 🤞🙏🤐

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kruetzreply
aussie.zone

Yeah 😮‍💨 ... hopefully the kids party next door finished up without too much drama

4

Just finishing up now - the adults are settling in to watch the election results. Kids are now engulfing pizza after a long afternoon sugar high - what could possibly go wrong?

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aussie.zone

Thank god I voted early. I woke up feeling both barrels of the New Sickness one of the boys has. To top it off, he didn't want me in the bed with him after I gave him medicine after 1am so I went and slept on the couch.

Last thing I'd want to do whilst sick and after a terrible sleep is my civic duty.

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Duenanreply
aussie.zone

Same here, even though the line was longer than I thought I feel like complete rubbish at the moment.

4

I haven't voted on election day for the last couple. And I haven't done it in Melbourne. I'd hate to see how long it would take here when absentee voting took so long in the country.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

I voted early so I wouldn't have to wait long on the day, then I went with someone who didn't vote early and spent over an hour in line with them anyway.

4
aussie.zone

We begin our day cleaning cat sick out of carpet. Things can only improve from here, right?

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Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!! Antony Green called it for Labor and WA has barely closed lmao

Check it out, following all the way from the Soup:

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aussie.zone

My booth had more people on the cake and sausage stalls then out the front with fliers. That's something a lot of countries wouldn't understand and I think it's awesome. Democracy done. School supported and choc chip bickkies in mah tummy

12

I saw our Labor candidate posing for pics with a sausage in his face. If he does that at every booth today he certainly won't need dinner.

4
aussie.zone

Antony has just called it.

Labor wins government, possibly with a large majority.

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aussie.zone

The most important thing now is to see if Purple Pingerz makes the Senate

11

With all the crazy names politicians have a Senator Purple Pingaz would be a nice change

6
aussie.zone

Dad's involved in the counting for Kooyong. Obviously he's limited to very simple communications, but he sounds like he's having a ball

10
aussie.zone

I think I can talk about AEC work now that I've withdrawn. The offer I got was Sat night, 8pm start, minimum wage ($30.14), expected 3am finish (casual, maybe early dismissal) counting votes at an OPC (cold warehouse). I wouldn't take that shift for any job TBH. Maybe I'm being too picky but that's atrocious pay and hours for a one off ~7 hour job.

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They gave me a two month window then two days notice for sat night at shit pay. I'm in bed by 9pm most days, I'd be falling asleep on the job.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

Isn't the day of $800 for any hours?

I feel like some would take the $30/h just to be in it for the main day.

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dumblederpreply
aussie.zone

I saw no mention of $800. Got a pamphlet explaining casual work rights and minimum award wages.

Some would take it, but not me. I'd be unreliable at that time of the day. Patriotically, I must decline for the good of democracy.

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The $800 was advised to me by someone who was already doing previous Vic/Aus elections, he said $800 flat rate regardless of hours on election day.

But that also meant some would be 12hrs, others 3hrs, so the value for work is very ambiguous.

Every other day was around minimum wage.

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aussie.zone

Well it’s done. I didn’t have to wait as long as I thought for the result. I was thinking Labour would win, but thought it would be a narrower result. I can rest easy tonight, and hopefully wake up to news Dutton has lost his seat.

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No waiting needed then! What an embarrassment for their campaign, leader looses his seat. Hopefully they will take a serious look at the direction the party has gone in and realise it’s not what Australia wants.

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aussie.zone

Fascinating watching the abc at the moment, the libs won’t own up to their mistakes and talk crap.

It’s honestly embarrassing.

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aussie.zone

Bill shorten is absolutely wrecking Palmer and the liberal lady who looks like an off brand Celine Dion.

The libs are such sore losers it's not even funny. They literally think Aussies are mugs and we should feel privileged to be ruled by them.

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It's almost mean to subject them to the Sarah Ferguson/ Laura Tingle double act. But it's very entertaining. And a reminder that good journalism is important to hold these self-important wankers to account.

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It's pretty telling they didn't have an actual MP willing to sit in the ABC panel.

4

Happy with the results, now time to put my local MP through the wringer so she actually addresses the real problems.

10

Yes. Hopefully now they will have the spine to pass some of the environment and EPBC Act commitments they made last election

5

Majority government is good, they might actually get some shit done. The LNP will be very weak, like in Vic, which isn't actually great for democracy going forward, but maybe it'll convince them that they need to be less super right wing and they'll ultimately end up as a more moderate party. Maybe.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

Victoria needs a new second party, would be nice to have a Vic only party instead of another federal organisation in Victoria.

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tombruzzoreply
aussie.zone

Well, there is Victorian Socialists if people wouldn't be too put off by them

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aussie.zone

I have some very, very negative experiences with them man. I tried, I really did but maybe they've changed over the last 5 years.

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tombruzzoreply
aussie.zone

I was more involved with them last election, I ended up being booth captain at one of the sites. Everything was pretty chill and they all seemed good. I've only dropped off because I had the boys.

2

A moderate party that is as pro infrastructure as Labour would be more successful as an opposition.

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Things have been going almost comically far right with the Libs in recent years so I hope this is finally the wake up call for them (although tbh I'd rather hope they die and there's more smaller parties that rise up from the ashes)

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aussie.zone

Agree, a democracy needs a competent opposition to keep government accountable, regardless of which side is in power. I hope the libs choose someone more centrist and less thug for the next leader. I feel like their party has become stacked with more extreme right wingers over the last decade so probably unlikely.

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As I said earlier, voters are never wrong. They can't be.

If the far right bull isn't something voters respond to, they'll have to change if they ever want to win those votes back

2

We'll miss Antony Green. What a legend.

I guess Casey Briggs got a test run during Covid when people were calling him "the Antony Green of death", and he'll be good, but it won't be the same.

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aussie.zone

time for some sleep, I've spent the day busy and also some comfort eating

I feel like I can make plans for the future knowing there aren't fascists in power

sweet dreams everyone 😘

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I'm not sure who this Liberal on the ABC is but he's edging closer to a full tantrum and I am here for it.

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the weird fucking thing is a labor gov is better for everyone, even old mates

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aussie.zone

Wow. The Coalition guy speaking now on ABC is being amazingly honest. I'm impressed

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It was a nice change from what I’ve been hearing.

Was interesting seeing how much the states swung. It was originally projected by the media that they were going to get a minority government but instead they took 14 seats from the libs.

Not as close as I thought it was going to be.

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Looking forward to seeing the results, having some nachos and wishing for a better future for all of us

9

Wow. Turning up to Victoria and trashing it was not a great strategy for the Libs. /s

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aussie.zone

Trying to convince the p's to 'let' me install a grab rail in their shower.

There is so much stigma to it it's ridiculous.

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Come out of the shower with fake blood running down your face and say you slipped.

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When my very frail (and very stubborn) MIL stayed with us when recovering from an injury, I had grab rails installed in the shower and next to the loo. She got really angry and refused to use them.

I’ve found them really handy though, both for holding on to and propping things on in the shower and for lifting myself off the loo after too much ‘leg day’ exercise.

Maybe try to sell them as chunky towel rails and shampoo holders?

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It's odd to me that we don't hold all vote counting until the final electorate closure, to avoid influence of early outcomes.

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The school down the road did not have a barbecue, or food of any kind. But I had a nice chat with one of the canvassers while in line.

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aussie.zone

Damn, it was called early. What happened? I thought it was going to be a close one.

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I am an an honest to goodness train eeeeeee
I think I have been on a train about five times in my ~10 years in Melbourne

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aussie.zone

Change of plans. Weather shit, so will quokka another day. Have caught train to Freo

8

The 'live' results on the abc news live coverage have been updated after a couple of hours of just sitting there static - Labour = 81 seats!

link

EDIT: Now 84 seats.

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I've done my duty in the Tropical Soup 🫡 things are far more streamlined here because we're lucky to have any kind of opposition at all in the first place, and there's only one house in the government, and it's just FPTP without preferential voting... Got in and out in about 3.5 minutes and used an inked stamp to press X on one of two boxes.

I wish I could vote in Australia but that likely won't happen until my mum passes away and I can finally let go of my original citizenship. So for now I will live vicariously through everyone else - and have to tolerate 7 hours of uncertainty on the flight that leaves just as polls close 😭

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You know that bit where Mr Burns laughs at the injured Irishman....? Can someone redo that but with Dutton losing?

Edit- this one

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aussie.zone

I’m already stressing about results. What if I somehow miscalculated and helped allow dipshits in. Too late now.

I wish I could distract myself

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aussie.zone

Your single vote will not empower dipshits.

Even if it could...voters are never wrong. Sometimes the choices of voters have unforeseen consequences, but as a voter exercising your rights you cannot make a wrong choice doing it. Whatever you picked is right.

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aussie.zone

Then that was a misunderstanding, not a mistake.

Any given voter's choice, regardless of who they vote for or if they vote at all, is always a valid and correct one. There are no wrong answers. Even if the decision ends up being one they find they disagree with later on for Reasons.

Melbs hasn't made a mistake - no voter can - so there's no point stressing herself sick over the possibility of error.

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I just didn’t have time to research properly, and wasn’t familiar with a couple of independent candidates.

I did a quick google and put them just ahead of Pauline Hanson but am wondering if there were any things I missed. Whether my choices aligned with what I wanted.

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voting done, no sossage, safe labor seat, no liberal canvassers

ewaste taken to drop off centre

bunnings run done, got paint for furniture, semi gloss kara sea colour and some new brushes

walk down beach , today there was a bloke in a straw boater hat standing out on the sand flats playing guitar to his dog

a little bit of gardening done

time for coffee and a little lunch

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Duenanreply
aussie.zone

Don’t forget tonight, it’s between you and me buddy!

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Postal vote ready to be witnessed and mailed right after, and my antibiotic script here to fill. I’m really not feeling tops but need to sort these things out, try and get out of these weeds.

I fumbled an earlier dental appointment and was extremely upset about it but touch wood I can be seen this week.

::: spoiler TW dental, pain management, pain meds

I am a bit worried about pain management post extraction though. I think I’ll be refusing the prescription painkillers and wondering if I will be able to power through with just Panadol and ibuprofen.

For what it’s worth the root canals were surprisingly bearable, couple of Panadol the first few days and fine at least until the infection returned. But this is a second molar extraction on the bottom jaw under local and the roots may be a bit oddly shaped. My jaw dislocates under pressure. And I’m fretting a bit about dry socket.

I do know not to take ibuprofen too soon after due to the risk of interfering with clotting. :::

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aussie.zone

Beep Beep 🚚
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aussie.zone

Sossige, cawfee, passionfruit sponge and some choc chip muffins please. All gluten free. I kid you not, my local booth had a separate BANK of tables marked variously 'halal', 'gluten free', 'dairy free' and 'vegan'. Well separated from the carnivore heaven on the other side of the playground but downwind, which gave me a chuckle.

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🌭🍺🥟🌭🍺🥟🌭🍺🥟🌭🍺🥟🌭🍺🥟

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I did the vote compass quiz thing, just to see where I land. Smack bang between Greens and ALP apparently lol.

I saw there is a rep for a Libertarian party in my seat, so I went to their website to check their policies and this gave me a chuckle

::: spoiler screenshot :::

Stop treating me like a CHILD! I want to RIDE HORSES and PROSPECT in Victoria's National Parks! I'm an ADULT and I want THE GOLD RUSH AGAIN!

Edit:

::: spoiler meme time :::

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The same person would be complaining of they saw what the masses would do to it, once it's gone it's gone.

We have surplus land that doesn't need protection from unrestrained greed.

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aussie.zone

It’s great to have got the libs out.

But I still feel uneasy. In addition to Cheeto Chaplin’s attacks the UK recently ruled that trans women legally aren’t women and are banned from women’s bathrooms, and so of course in Australia there have been recent protests against trans people and against anti-hate speech laws protecting LGBTIA+.

The arsetrumpet catchphrase about not needing to be welcomed to your “own country” (it’s not white peoples country) led to it being shouted and booed at an Indigenous elder speaking at an Anzac service.

There’s also been a lot of anti-immigration sentiments being fomented and backlash against harm reduction like injecting rooms. Even with the election over that has to have stirred a certain element up.

Regardless of laws Australia picks up culture wars like a sponge.

Also on a personal level there are groups that I can’t form community and solidarity with past an ideological level due to the credible risk of harm to me. 😐 I both support harm minimisation but can’t do irl outreach like volunteering with people who have been intimidating me, stealing from me and trying to break into my house.

I could lobby for methadone to be subsidised to try and reduce the desperation and crime in my area but I don’t have the resources for activism, particularly the organised kind. I’m barely keeping myself and puss alive.

And the left loves eating itself. I’m hesitant to get involved with any of the groups even if I was well enough. Purity spirals I’ve experienced in the past actually led to me distancing myself for a long time and it seems to be kicking up again.

Also marginalised groups I’m trying to be an ally to online (according to actions they’ve said they want) are locked in a defensive stance, reacting with suspicion and shade.

No idea what I could even do that wouldn’t be derided as performative and tokenistic

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aussie.zone

Go through life trying to be decent to people. That’s within your reach, and is an excellent start

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aussie.zone

I’m trying. I already have been. It doesn’t seem to help much.

Edit: There’s also the additional bonus of it marking you out as an easy target. I also belong to multiple marginalised groups

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aussie.zone

It helps more than not doing it would.

As for belonging to multiple marginalised groups…Melbs, so do I

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It sucks arse. I have so little structural power and ability to advocate for myself - it’s a struggle to survive. I have no idea how to help anyone else.

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I was so tired. Slept way past midday.

Plans for operation laundry have been set back :(

Still doing it though not sure it’ll be dry by tomorrow.

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aussie.zone

My first choice of polling booth had no democracy sausages so of course I left to find another with them.

The entrance to this polling booth is quite narrow so I got assaulted with how to vote pamphlets on entry with nowhere to run.

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aussie.zone

Has this ever happened before? Has the opposition leader ever lost their seat in an election. It feels huge

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tombruzzoreply
aussie.zone

I heard that too. The worst part is they kept him in for so long

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aussie.zone

The thing is, he does actually seem to have been a very good local member. He was dreadful as opposition leader, but as "the local rep" in a single seat he was competent and conscientious.

It's a weird dichotomy. His performance as a single member might have won him a longer leash to be opposition leader

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I didn't know he did porkbarrelling in his own seat. I know it's what has kept Barnaby Joyce in all this time. It's the acknowledgement that you operate on a national stage but you're voted in by your seat. I wish more politicians would take that on board, even if it's for selfish reasons.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

Well he wasn't opposition leader, but John Howard as PM in 2007.

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I heard that on the radio. The liberals lost anyway but imagine the prime minister losing but the party wins

3
aussie.zone

omg, those are some huge swings to Lab. I think it's the trump effect. We don't want cunts like that or cunts who support trump in.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

I've been worried for months that too many Australian's where like Trump's supporters.

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aussie.zone

If we hadn't just been shown exactly what that actually means - behold, the United States! - it might be more popular. But we have, and for all that Australians love a good bitch about politicians...we don't love it enough to burn the place down

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I heard this game is French persona. Plus it's made by former ubisoft devs, so it's great to see them get out of there and do their own thing.

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aussie.zone

I watch about half of it and it looks awesome. It looked like you should die a bunch of times but idk what in looking at

2

With this in particular the only real way to damage these bosses are to completely parry their attacks which is very strict timing.

They’re also floating bosses so have about a 80% dodge rate on all attacks sans counter attacks via parry or jumping.

Edit: also I was using items and spells to bring back my team at points because I copped some really bad hits.

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I always forget that the seat of Bradfield exists.

The Bradfields are my people. There has been at least one famous one

5

I usually have white noise or something on while I sleep. Last night was too lazy and my dreams were amazing and vivid.

Then I got woken up

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iktreply
aussie.zone

classic cat but you need to wipe the camera on your phone, so fuzzy :P

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aussie.zone

For some totally non-election related discussion: what is your preferred style of bed? I'm seeing a lot of fabric covered bed heads around, and I really don't like that idea from a cleaning/hygiene perspective.

I'm looking at a dark stained wood frame bed, a fairly minimal design with raised legs and no footboard. My current bed is nearly 30 years old, the options have changed considerably since then.

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Fabric headboards are a complete pain to keep clean, especially if you have pets. The amount of hair that accumulates is mindblowing, and I worry about fleas/bedbugs etc. as they're impossible to wash or clean properly. I have a wrought iron decorative head & foot, with sturdy iron rails holding them apart and sturdy slats. Its quite tall - mid thigh when standing next to it, but the underbed space holds my two spare guest mattresses easily and more besides.

Slats are a major point of failure in cheap beds, so if you get a Cpt Snooze or Fantastic Furniture bed, replace the slats with tongue & groove boards laid a little apart for ventilation. This also prevents cats from climbing up into the mattress from below and getting squashed by the coils (if any).

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Woodframe all the way. Fabric heads scream hotel to me, and I want the storage and ventilation of a non solid base. And no need for those hideous frilly things.

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dumblederpreply
aussie.zone

Generally whatever has been $50-$100 bucks on gumtree. Mostly some kind of wood number. Head, foot, rails and slats. Were I to buy something I'd be looking at included storage.

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Some years ago my dream would have been to have every cm of space under the bed usable for storage, possibly with a bookshelf headboard too. These days I'm trying to be more minimalist, plus I have more room in general, so I'm prioritising a more open design that lets my pets wander freely underneath.

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Briongloidreply
aussie.zone

As for frame, I'm strongly against fabric bases, horrible for mold.

Personally I'd go 100% metal base, maybe stained wood if I could guarantee mold free.

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I can't say I've ever had mould on my wood furniture. I have had a metal base which was cheaply made and bent after very little use, so I'm a bit wary of metal frames. It was when I was a teenager and money was pretty tight, Mum managed to buy my sister and I new bed frames to replace the tatty second hand wood ones we'd had since we first moved into full beds, and within a year they had both broken and we ended up sleeping on matresses on the floor for a few years.

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I recently bought a bed from Quokka Beds. They are a little joint in Perth that premake beds out of wood. I got one out of Tassie oak. Really simple. Easy to put together and I am really happy with it.

Edit: I had previously slept on a mattress on a couple of pallets so I also appreciate simple

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Mine's probably 25 years old and the slats don't stay in place well, my next bed will have a better set up I think.

Dark stained wood with no foot sounds like a winner.

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I've been thinking about cleaning off the consoles and setting them up around my desk; my second monitor is actually a small TV so I could plug them in. Mainly because I want to play the original Ratchet and Clank trilogy, and Halo.

I think, out of all the Halo games, my favourites are ODST and Reach. I know it's silly, but in Reach I could play as a female Spartan and that was fucking awesome to me.

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aussie.zone

I wandered in to my poling place wearing a TShirt by a Band that is favoured by the Progressive Political People.

The drone handing out A3-sized Greens How-To-Vote broadsheets offered me one and I said “no thankyou”. He aggressively replied “Typical!” to his contracted colleagues.

One of them then thrust the so-big-it-was-impossible to read Labor HTV card at me, “what about one of these ones”.

I decided to jump on my anti-HTV soapbox and let them all have it with both barrels, including describing them as a “Corruption of Our democracy”.

The next 5 voters who queued also declined HTV cards.

When the Environmentalist party is littering the suburbs with non-recyclable single-use plastic corflutes, fastened to signs with single-use plastic cable-ties and then wasting paper like this, you really have to wonder about their commitment to the Environment.

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Pilkreply
aussie.zone

Corflutes and HTVs are used widely by all parties, not just the Greens. But the Greens are the target of your critique because someone allegedly hurt your feelings? (Both materials are 100% recyclable, by the way.)

I'm more concerned about the dozens of new coal and gas project approvals under Labor. Billions of tonnes of pollution is a bit more impactful that a few thousand printed pamphlets and signs, that everyone else is doing anyway.

Guarantee your outburst was completely pointless and quickly forgotten.

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My feelings are not hurt, my tolerance for hypocrisy is what being tested.

Don’t get me wrong, the Greens are currently the only way out of the Fossil-Fuel-Funded Two Party system we are currently in, but do they really need to do the exact opposite of what they are campaigning for?

Things that are 100% recyclable are not always (actually hardly ever) recycled at all, let alone to 100%. They should be using biodegradable, renewable materials, or even better, don’t publish them in the first place. The absence Greens Junk Mail would be a better message to send their constituents than continuing to status quo.

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