Probably not. To make it work they will have to push some funding into the school system which they will not. That’s virtue signaling at the provincial government level
I still do not understand how this is not the standard in school across the country. I don't care if children kick and scream about this, that is what children do when they do not get their toys and there is absolutely no reason for a child to even own a smartphone.
Nope, the wabbit emu is for replacing a TI graphing calculator which is north of ~$150 in the US. Still cheaper than a phone, but only a third or so the price of my daily driver at the time of purchase.
It's a pretty standard tool to assist with learning any math beyond algebra, and was a requirement in both my uni and high school classes. I'm fortunate enough to have gone to a high school where there were plenty of calculators provided by the school, but the major exams like the SAT and whatnot did not provide one and would also not have allowed phones.
It's a bit puzzling to me that we are worrying about replacing a very expensive thing that (some) students own with a very cheap thing. Like, yes of course, give everyone a damn calculator, but really, now you guys feel the sudden urge to advocate for that? If someone can't afford a 9$ calculator, they also didn't afford it last week, when phones were not banned. Where was all the concern about students who can't afford calculators last week? It's silly.
Why now? Because that is what is being discussed in this thread.
I believe that education should be a 100% free, down to the material used in class. But we are talking about phones replacing calculators, not how we think the education should be.
You don't need a graphing calculator. I did all my scholarship with a sharp writeview that costs 20$.
It does integrals, derivatives, matrices, complex algebra, vector algebra and everything else you could possibly need.
They said "scientific" calculator, not "graphing". As in their parents weren't willing to spend that $20 (or less) for what I'd consider the most basic useful calculator.
If all they needed was the features of a scientific calculator they would have used their calculator app, it's pretty clear based on context they're saying they needed access to a graphing calculator for coursework.
You've never been tempted to get the most extreme version of something when you only need a simple one when the inertia to get either was similar? Or ended up with a tool far more powerful than you needed because you weren't sure about the difference when you first got it and by the time you realized, you were already used to the advanced tool and just kept using it?
Plus, I've found the free calculator apps to be a bit disappointing when I've tried them, though I haven't looked in a while.
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Typical Quebec win.
Probably not. To make it work they will have to push some funding into the school system which they will not. That’s virtue signaling at the provincial government level
I mean, Legault government wants new immigrants to speak French (which is a good thing) but cut the funding for French classes for immigrants (what?)
So I am afraid you are right. They want to look good but won't do jackshit, as always.
Sounds like an attempt to increase the barrier to entry.
Parfait.
I still do not understand how this is not the standard in school across the country. I don't care if children kick and scream about this, that is what children do when they do not get their toys and there is absolutely no reason for a child to even own a smartphone.
A calculator is a couple of orders of magnitude cheaper than a phone. Single vs triple digits.
Nope, the wabbit emu is for replacing a TI graphing calculator which is north of ~$150 in the US. Still cheaper than a phone, but only a third or so the price of my daily driver at the time of purchase.
This is an article about Quebec. Do students in Quebec need this kind of tool?
It's a pretty standard tool to assist with learning any math beyond algebra, and was a requirement in both my uni and high school classes. I'm fortunate enough to have gone to a high school where there were plenty of calculators provided by the school, but the major exams like the SAT and whatnot did not provide one and would also not have allowed phones.
More reason to provide it to students that can't afford them then.
It's a bit puzzling to me that we are worrying about replacing a very expensive thing that (some) students own with a very cheap thing. Like, yes of course, give everyone a damn calculator, but really, now you guys feel the sudden urge to advocate for that? If someone can't afford a 9$ calculator, they also didn't afford it last week, when phones were not banned. Where was all the concern about students who can't afford calculators last week? It's silly.
Why now? Because that is what is being discussed in this thread.
I believe that education should be a 100% free, down to the material used in class. But we are talking about phones replacing calculators, not how we think the education should be.
So yeah, give everyone a damn calculator.
Question, were you a student in Quebec?
(Not downvoting you.)
You don't need a graphing calculator. I did all my scholarship with a sharp writeview that costs 20$. It does integrals, derivatives, matrices, complex algebra, vector algebra and everything else you could possibly need.
They said "scientific" calculator, not "graphing". As in their parents weren't willing to spend that $20 (or less) for what I'd consider the most basic useful calculator.
Wabbitemu is an emulator for ti84 and similar graphing calculators
Yes, but they used it because their parents wouldn't get them a scientific calculator. At least that's the impression I got.
If all they needed was the features of a scientific calculator they would have used their calculator app, it's pretty clear based on context they're saying they needed access to a graphing calculator for coursework.
You've never been tempted to get the most extreme version of something when you only need a simple one when the inertia to get either was similar? Or ended up with a tool far more powerful than you needed because you weren't sure about the difference when you first got it and by the time you realized, you were already used to the advanced tool and just kept using it?
Plus, I've found the free calculator apps to be a bit disappointing when I've tried them, though I haven't looked in a while.
I needed one to play doom, like a normal person