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Oh, then you must think I'm a monster!

Yes, indeed, I do think that.

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lemmy.world

So if others accept your different values, will you accept theirs?

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lathreply
lemmy.world

So it's not just about having different values then.

"I don't think I'm better than you, but that you are worse than me."

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lathreply
lemmy.world

Isn't it hard to do the former without dipping into the latter?

If you are to protect animals, then something or someone has to be doing them harm. Without judging those as being bad, can't really come to the decision that your one-sided protection is good.

Or you don't think that what you're doing is good, just different. In which case, there is no good or bad/better or worse. So you don't blame people for eating meat, you just don't agree with following that way of life.

I guess in that situation, the meme applies.

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It’s difficult to go into this without specifying a persons reason for consuming animals. Religious, cultural, pleasure, conformity, convenience, lack of knowledge etc. It wasn’t most people’s decision, it’s the default. It’s understanding of background that makes judgment wrong.

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jolreply
discuss.tchncs.de

But you still indeed think your values are better than theirs. That applies to most people and most values.

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Yes. My values (killing is wrong) are better than their values (killing is okay).

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You know you can have objectively better values than someone without considering yourself better than them, right?

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jolreply
discuss.tchncs.de

No, I don't know that. If I think my values are objectively better than others, in that regard I think I'm better than them. How is that not the case?

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By understanding that people are more than a list of values, they're a collection of entirely valid life experiences which both informs and is guided by their values.

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If you see someone actively going against your values and don't think they're shitty people, then you must not feel very strongly about those values 🤷‍♂️

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Not when those values say it's okay to kill innocent beings. Begone, troll.

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lemmy.vg

Vegans aren't better than you because they're vegan.

They're vegan because they're better than you.

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lemmy.ca

I think being humble is hot and I’m trying to lower people’s defences so they can come to the vegan conclusion sooner.

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