It’s almost as if they never actually cared about the server but rather were just using it to score points. Not at all like, you know, absolutely everything else.

Lock. Them. Up.

Wasn't the server an actual private server she had setup whereas this is a corporate app that is supposedly private if they are not lying and accessing the data. I mean this is way wore unless they put up a server to run the chat software.

Conservative hypocrisy knows no bounds. They will only be outraged at what their talking heads tell them to be outraged at.

The party of double standards, everyone.

I'm not sure that pointing out the hypocrisy is even useful. I'm nearing 40 and "but it's okay when we do it" has always been a core tenant of conservatism. They don't give a shit that they're hypocrites, they don't care, I've boxed them in on it before and it always just boils down to "it's okay for us because I said so". I think it's maybe more useful to move past the identification of hypocrisy and start engaging in conversations about accountability. That is, conversations about hypocrisy without conversations about what kind of accountability you'd like to see are moot. So, let's move past "can you believe this shit? But her emails? Do you feel like the hypocrites you are yet?" to "your boy did something fucking stupid. I don't care about your excuses, fire him."

Where is the accountability from the public? Every redneck 100 mi from me was screaming about her damn emails. They probably didn't even understand why they were outraged, but the man on the FoX nEwS was angry about it so I am too. They say that the don't trust the government for legitimate topics like vaccines, and taxes and then when the government gives you a huge reason to actually be concerned, it gets ignored

It's almost like that party has no values and sees everything only through the lens of political leverage.

Also the disappearing texts are a concern. There's not much mention of that. And now you have to wonder, how many other conversations have been held there, and with who?

lock them up!

Shared military plans with a journalist on a private app.

It’s always Opposite Day with these clowns GOP. The blame finger is always pointing at them.

The takeaway is that Signal is a bloody good app to use.

I'm so tired of America letting the worst pieces of shit get away with anything. One side breaks the speed limit by 2mph and they're euthanized. The other side rapes and kills all of Asia, and nothing happens.

EDIT: To be 1000% clear, they should not be using personal cell phones for this, which they probably did because everyone in this admin is braindead gutter trash. I'm suggesting that self-hosted Signal over government servers is probably fine for security with potentially some tweaks to the app. Something I neglected to think of however is that this sidesteps record keeping, and probably deliberately so. My contention here was solely about security, but this fact makes Signal use unconscionable in my book because it impedes accountability.

Okay, let's just be clear here: Signal isn't just another "private app"; the amount of information they have about your communications is zero (0) with the exception that I believe they can see if you have an account and the last time you connected to the server. Governments absolutely do rely on Signal. The Signal protocol is open and highly robust, the app code is FOSS and has eyes from a shitload of security researchers globally due to its importance, its server code is FOSS (although you don't have to trust this due to the robust E2EE, and you can even self-host IIRC due to the FOSS server code), and it has reproducible builds.

This fuck-up was strictly due to the fact that they're incompetent morons just randomly inviting people to group chats and shit with no guardrails. If I had to guess, they'd probably want to self-host the fork the Signal app and make it so that you can only invite people with some form of clearance, but this last thing is total speculation on my part. I'm sure there's some way to sanely do this. The part about Signal being secure is just objectively true; it's audited like absolute crazy, both the FOSS app and the protocol. I would trust it more than whatever the US government could homebrew, even.

If you, as a citizen, are looking for secure, private messaging, Signal should be at the very top of your list of possible candidates alongside Matrix, SimpleX, and Session (keep in mind that Element and Session do not yet support forward secrecy, although the Matrix protocol does).

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Lock him up!

And here several days later they are still trying to gaslight everyone into believing that it never happened.

I don’t run a magazine so I couldn’t report it but I was included on a top secret Signal group chat where administration officials talked about how long you should wait after Trump or Elon absolutely explodes a White House bathroom. A friend at OSHA accidentally added me.

The younger staffers were given a map of nearby Starbucks locations because sometimes, it would take hours for the West Wing loos to be re-certified as a safe workplace environment. And if the inspector forgot his Geiger counter, forget it. Bathrooms were off limits that day.

It's almost like both "parties" only care about decent OpSec when the other team fucks up.

And neither party cares about the endless imperial slaughter that these communications facilitate. Not even worth mentioning.

They accidentally added a random guy to a Signal group. Not quite the same as classified documents on a self-hosted email server. I've heard US military uses Signal quite officially.

This should, of course, raise concerns that if they like Signal - they might want to self-host it, the client and the server are FOSS. They might even consider paying Signal the company to help them.

It's almost like excusing neoliberals for breaking the law just normalizes republicans doing it...

And they're a lot stupider, so when they do it there's more likely to be negative consequences.

The solution is higher standards and holding someone responsible even when they have the right letter by their name.

Letting neoliberals be as shitty as they want hasn't been working out for 30 years since they tried to convince us a president lying about sexually taking advantage of interns in the oval office and then lying about it under oath to Congress was a "nothingburger" to use their own vernacular.

All lowering Dem standards does, is make us look like hypocrites. And that depresses turnout, which lets fascists into office.