Poor epistemology. A common problem.
Most modern, right-thinking, science-believers don't actually do science and wouldn't recognize the scientific method if it bit them on the butt.
Most religious people never meditated, never had a vision, wouldn't recognize elevated consciousness if it bit them on the butt.
Most of us just swallow the official narrative of our tribe and trust what the authorities say.
Which is of course a terrible way to acquire quality knowledge.
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Okay. Where are you going with this? Are you just highlighting that people are often not skeptical, reasonable, or rational? Because that's commonly known.
I'm highlighting the common ground between theists and atheists.
I still don't understand your purpose. To promote...pluralism? To point out that each group has dumb people? To highlight that it's human to follow blindly? I just don't understand where you're coming from.
Are you a theist trying to bridge some perceived divide?
ETA: Also, I disagree with your use of "most" for any of those groups. Unless you can prove that it's indeed "most," at best you can say "some" or "many."
Consider the ramifications of an argument where both sides haven't a leg to stand on.
Okay... But that's determined by the qualities of the argument, not pointing out that there's dumb people in their midst.
"Atheists and theists both have naive, credulous adherents" isn't saying anything novel.
What are you trying to say? Why are you being cagey?
Don't read into it any more than that one point. It ain't complicated.
So you just had a shower-thought about the existence of stupid people and thought we didn't know?
It's more common than you might think.
What kind of epistemology are you using to declare that meditation "elevates consciousness"? Also, what visions have you had?
That's rather beside my point.
Which one?
I'm only making one simple point. It ain't complicated.
I meant, which of the two questions was beside the point? And while I'm at it, why, exactly?