Okay, so I never used Twitter but figured I'd give Mastodon a try.
But what do you even do there? Is it just a place where you wait for specific people to shout into the void? And then what?
Also how do I even find interesting subjects or people to follow?
Twitter/microblogging is a weird thing in general but you seem to have the idea. It can be useful for following events or people who write interesting things.
Mastodon hashtags are the way to discover conversations and people to follow, they go across instances in search.
I feel like twitter has been around long enough that people that want to use a platform like it will be aware of the concept of a hashtag for finding posts on a topic, etc.
Basically I use mastodon as a feed for entertaining shit that I can easily interact with. I follow a bunch of artists and comedians. I scroll down and am entertained. If I want to be extra nice, I leave a comment and tell the artist they are super cool. People usually reply back, which is nice!
And because it is part of the fediverse, you can follow people from all kinds of apps! It's pretty cool :)
Sometimes it's useful following specific projects or organizations you're interested in to be notified when anything interesting is going on. In a way similar to an RSS feed I suppose
Essentially a web feed to have a single timeline from multiple sources.
Think of it as Google News but you manually choose the sources and it's chronological.
They are also RSS feeds by default, just append .rss to the back of the profile address and add to your feed reader. For example, to tune into Elvira Mistress of the Dark in your rss reader the link would be:
@Cuteblooded@Troll I just follow a bunch of people and hashtags. Anybody suggests following something or someone I do. It's easy to unfollow if you end up not liking the content from someone or some hashtag.
@Cuteblooded@Troll I found that posting about stuff that interests me, following bright people who respond, and using hashtags is not a bad way to start. And check the local feed and the fedi feed from time to time to find new people to interact with. #welcome
@Cuteblooded@Troll shout into the void... Or voice an opinion... If enough of us voice an opinion it might change things... the alternative is keeping silent and that is not mentally healthy
You can also shout into the void yourself. Eventually somebody might notice and reply.
You can watch the local or federated timelines and if someone says something interesting you can follow them and reply. Or you if you get linked from elsewhere to a good post you can follow the author. Or you can see a list of popular hashtags (or look up a hashtag) and see posts in them, or post to them.
@Cuteblooded For starters, hashtags seem to be a bigger deal here than on Twitter. You can follow hashtags for their themed content, or just search them to find people to follow. And if you hashtag your posts by category, people will actually notice.
@Cuteblooded Assuming the instance you joined is some kind of community that you’re a part of, check out the Local feed. Other people on your server may show you some good stuff and/or be worth following.
Since they are part of the fediverse and use the same underlying technology, they are integrated! E.g. users on a mastodon instance can follow lemmy communities
Problem for me is that Twitter for me is about the official announcement-y things which aren't leaving lol. It's not great, but for football news all the journalists are still there, and so are the clubs.
You could suggest they go to Mastodon and reference other companies which do. There are probably easy integrations for them so that they can just automate their tweets to both Mastodon and Twitter at the same time.
It seems to be growing pretty fast, and importantly has celebrities and such. It's going to replace Twitter, but Mastodon has staying power that BSky doesn't.
At the risk of sounding like a door-to-door fediverse evangelist: the good thing about mastodon is you can always move to a small and quirky instance, or even start your own small and quirky instance and defederate from any parts that you don't like.
Honestly, I feel like Mastodon is kinda never going to be like Twitter, even if its user count were to grow by two orders of magnitude. There are several reasons why, as the other replies point out, but the most important (IMO) is that Mastodon is just not a profit-driven platform. And if Mastodon is not a profit-driven platform, it is not designed to maximize user engagement. And if it is not designed to maximize user engagement, it is not designed to encourage toxic behavior.
Let me tell you about my lord and savior decentralized social media
Mastodeez nuts
Me opening the door thinking you're referring to the band
Why yes, I do have a moment to SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER
Best album. I'll never get over the opening line: I THINK THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO KILL MEEEEE
Okay, so I never used Twitter but figured I'd give Mastodon a try.
But what do you even do there? Is it just a place where you wait for specific people to shout into the void? And then what?
Also how do I even find interesting subjects or people to follow?
Twitter/microblogging is a weird thing in general but you seem to have the idea. It can be useful for following events or people who write interesting things.
Mastodon hashtags are the way to discover conversations and people to follow, they go across instances in search.
Those words don't make sense to someone new to this
I feel like twitter has been around long enough that people that want to use a platform like it will be aware of the concept of a hashtag for finding posts on a topic, etc.
@freecandy @nick I understood the "weird thing in general" part ...
If you know how to use Twitter, then you aren't "new to this".
The person said they never used twitter
Shit. You're right. That's what happens when you comment on stuff right after rolling out of bed.
Lol I totally empathize with you!
Basically I use mastodon as a feed for entertaining shit that I can easily interact with. I follow a bunch of artists and comedians. I scroll down and am entertained. If I want to be extra nice, I leave a comment and tell the artist they are super cool. People usually reply back, which is nice!
And because it is part of the fediverse, you can follow people from all kinds of apps! It's pretty cool :)
Sometimes it's useful following specific projects or organizations you're interested in to be notified when anything interesting is going on. In a way similar to an RSS feed I suppose
Whats an RSS feed?
Essentially a web feed to have a single timeline from multiple sources. Think of it as Google News but you manually choose the sources and it's chronological.
One of the best things the web has to offer
They are also RSS feeds by default, just append .rss to the back of the profile address and add to your feed reader. For example, to tune into Elvira Mistress of the Dark in your rss reader the link would be:
https://universeodon.com/@TheRealElvira.rssWe need this for Lemmy communities.
I just love the fact that Mark Ruffalo is using Mastodon
@Cuteblooded @Troll I just follow a bunch of people and hashtags. Anybody suggests following something or someone I do. It's easy to unfollow if you end up not liking the content from someone or some hashtag.
@Cuteblooded @Troll I found that posting about stuff that interests me, following bright people who respond, and using hashtags is not a bad way to start. And check the local feed and the fedi feed from time to time to find new people to interact with.
#welcome
I always had the same issue the few times I tried to use mastodon and twitter.
@Cuteblooded @Troll You can find topics using hashtags (#).
https://fedi.tips/
@Cuteblooded @Troll just keep posting and follow some interesting people you'll get it
@Cuteblooded @Troll shout into the void... Or voice an opinion... If enough of us voice an opinion it might change things... the alternative is keeping silent and that is not mentally healthy
Yes?
You can also shout into the void yourself. Eventually somebody might notice and reply.
You can watch the local or federated timelines and if someone says something interesting you can follow them and reply. Or you if you get linked from elsewhere to a good post you can follow the author. Or you can see a list of popular hashtags (or look up a hashtag) and see posts in them, or post to them.
What else is there supposed to be to do there?
@Cuteblooded ahhah, if you stare into the void, the void stares back at you. (just reposted your lemmy post to the void/mastodon 😅)
@Cuteblooded absolutely wild that I'm reading your lemmy post on mastodon as we speak
@Cuteblooded For starters, hashtags seem to be a bigger deal here than on Twitter. You can follow hashtags for their themed content, or just search them to find people to follow. And if you hashtag your posts by category, people will actually notice.
@Cuteblooded @Troll
https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110827772311097668
@Cuteblooded @Troll Start here: https://fedi.tips/
@Cuteblooded Assuming the instance you joined is some kind of community that you’re a part of, check out the Local feed. Other people on your server may show you some good stuff and/or be worth following.
My favorite metal band??
I THINK THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO KILL ME
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
I saw them when they opened for Primus. Killer show.
I thought we're gonna talk about a music band, aren't we?
I saw them for the first time during the Unheavenly Skye tour.
My first time seeing Coheed too!
It was one hell of a show.
They are kinda different
One is a microblobbing service and the other is a content aggregation service. And then there is Kbin which is both.
Lemmy is Reddit. Mastodon is Twitter.
Lemmy Not reddit Mastodon Not twitter thats how i wrote it in my about
I kinda wish they were both integrated.
Since they are part of the fediverse and use the same underlying technology, they are integrated! E.g. users on a mastodon instance can follow lemmy communities
You mean like kbin?
I'm having fun there, though there are a good amount of spammers there already.
No we worship lemmy in this house mastodon is a harassy
a harassing heresy ? defo sounds like the witnesses
I know all about Mastodon. Been doing it just about everyday for years, sometimes twice a day!
Problem for me is that Twitter for me is about the official announcement-y things which aren't leaving lol. It's not great, but for football news all the journalists are still there, and so are the clubs.
Look up nitter
The way to get that to change is to not go to Twitter, and if any of those people have another outlet, read and interact with that one.
Problem is, they don't, lol.
You could suggest they go to Mastodon and reference other companies which do. There are probably easy integrations for them so that they can just automate their tweets to both Mastodon and Twitter at the same time.
who do you think I am lol and what influence
Ideas stand for themselves. A lot of times tweets are just run by some intern anyway.
I think I'd rather keep Mastodon small and quirky. The moment it starts to feel like twitter, I'm off.
Nah it'll never be like Twitter. Those users will all line up for Bluesky
Or threads.
Out of the loop: why there is so much hype for Bluesky?
Jack Dorsey made it, and it's kind of federated. Might even hook into Mastodon in the future.
I feel Bluesky already lost its hype. Should've been launched near the announcement. I believe Threads it's where people would go if leaving X.
It seems to be growing pretty fast, and importantly has celebrities and such. It's going to replace Twitter, but Mastodon has staying power that BSky doesn't.
At the risk of sounding like a door-to-door fediverse evangelist: the good thing about mastodon is you can always move to a small and quirky instance, or even start your own small and quirky instance and defederate from any parts that you don't like.
Honestly, I feel like Mastodon is kinda never going to be like Twitter, even if its user count were to grow by two orders of magnitude. There are several reasons why, as the other replies point out, but the most important (IMO) is that Mastodon is just not a profit-driven platform. And if Mastodon is not a profit-driven platform, it is not designed to maximize user engagement. And if it is not designed to maximize user engagement, it is not designed to encourage toxic behavior.
Looking forward to Book of Mastodon, the musical
I'm like that with Nostr.
No sir, I haven't heard of it, but would you like a waffle?
Does the waffle have syrup?
Yes, the best kind: imaginary syrup! The unlimited essence of deliciousness abounding, overflowing!
Belgian Waffle.