China: A woman's parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up having to pay Tesla damages.
Zhang Yazhou was sitting in the passenger seat of her Tesla Model 3 when she said she heard her father’s panicked voice: The brakes don’t work! Approaching a red light, her father swerved around two cars before plowing into an SUV and a sedan and crashing into a large concrete barrier.
Stunned, Zhang gazed at the deflating airbag in front of her. She could never have imagined what was to come: Tesla sued her for defamation for complaining publicly about the car’s brakes — and won. A Chinese court ordered Zhang to pay more than $23,000 in damages and publicly apologize to the $1.1 trillion company.
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Over the last four years, Tesla has sued at least six car owners in China who had sudden vehicle malfunctions, quality complaints or accidents they claimed were caused by mechanical failures.
The company has also sued at least six bloggers and two Chinese media outlets that wrote critically about the company, according to a review of public court documents and Chinese media reports by The Associated Press. Tesla won all eleven cases for which AP could determine the verdicts. Two judgments, including Zhang’s, are on appeal. One case was settled out of court.
It is not common practice for automakers — in China or elsewhere — to sue their customers. But Tesla has pioneered an aggressive legal strategy and leveraged the patronage of powerful leaders in China’s ruling Communist Party to silence critics, reap financial rewards and limit its accountability.
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I was wondering why the suits were seemingly isolated to China. The article states that the overarching power of the Communist Party have afforded Elmo and Tesla more power. Now that he's essentially purchased the country, I could see him throwing the added weight around here now, too.
It’s an Asian thing Musk is taking advantage of, is all. If you insult someone in power you’ve caused them to ‘lose face’, which is a suable offense.
Japan is also really bad for this.
This is the kind of government Elon is trying to implement in the US when he claims DOGE is “getting rid of government waste and corruption”
This is crazy, didn’t know about it,, thank you.
I would like more details, how is it possible for the manufacturer to build the vehicle incorrectly and unsafely, sell it to a consumer, and not be liable for their product? Then to double down and sue for defamation when it hurts people and they say something?
I cannot answer your question, but the article has been cross-posted, and a user in a different community posted an interesting comment. See it here: https://slrpnk.net/post/18315610/13760678
Tried to follow the link but I get a “post not found”.
I'm sorry, it seems lemmy.zip has deleted the content.
To paraphrase the now deleted comment; The user explained the concept of 'face' as part of the Chinese (and other Asian) law. It means that if you accuse a person in power of, say, rape (that was the example used in the comment), and this powerful person files a defamation lawsuit against you -because the person's reputation suffered, they lost 'face'- , this powerful person will likely win the lawsuit, even though the crime was indeed committed. [Disclaimer: This is my personal explanation as a legal layman, paraphrasing the now deleted comment. I personally have no idea of Chinese law nor any law.]
Power structures that favor the wealthy elites
It makes an interesting read.
The headline tells the truth, but maybe not the whole truth. The article certainly buried the lede:
Tesla should have been more responsive in releasing the data, but driving 120 km/h seems a tad reckless.
Tim Karr, a senior director at Free Press, a U.S.-based organization that advocates for more just and democratic media, wrote in August 2023:
Addition:
Here’s a look at free speech absolutist Elon Musk’s ties to Chinese censorship -- (2022)