Spyke
lemmy.world
int main() {
    useless:
    int x = 10;
    if (1) {
        goto useless;
    }
}
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Through the magic of make, you can write code that changes if statements to while loops then changes it back after compilation passes or fails.

I only give good advice.

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aMockTiereply
lemmy.world

Statements that start with # in C/C++ are known as preprocessor directives, that is, they are executed before compilation begins. OP has used a #define which will replace any instance of A (IF(x)) with B (while (x)) in the code.

So the IF statement is really just a while statement.

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Kacarottreply
aussie.zone

But what is it in reference to? What's the "infamous if loop"?

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I always wondered why I always had a hard time making developers not call "if" a "loop".
Turns out it was on their tests.

Glad I didn't read my college material, or I would have lost faith in my college professors.

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It just occurred to that in Yorkshire dialect a while loop would actually be an until loop. Directives to the rescue!

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"Infamous" just refers to newbies who sometimes call if statements "if loops". I've heard this quite a bit.

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Vigge93reply
lemmy.world

Your point about it not running when there is nothing to iterate over is incorrect. The else-statement runs when the iterator is exhausted; if the iterator empty, it is exhausted immediately and the else-statement is executed.

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lugalreply
sopuli.xyz

I think it's intended as "not only when" because it would make sense to have an "if empty" case but the way it is, it doesn't make sense

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Vigge93reply
lemmy.world

I think it does make sense, it's a "did this loop exit naturally? If so, do x". This makes a lot of sense if you, for example, have a loop that checks a condition and breaks if that condition is met, e.g. finding the next item in a list. This allows for the else statement to set some default value to indicate that no match was found.

Imo, the feature can be very useful under certain circumstances, but the syntax is very confusing, and thus it's almost never a good idea to actually use it in code, since it decreases readability a lot for people not intimately familiar with the language.

Edit: Now, this is just guessing, but what I assume happens under the hood is that the else statement is executed when the StopIteration exception is recieved, which happens when next() is called on an exhausted iterator (either empty or fully consumed)

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Thinking about it, it totally makes sense and has in inherent logic, even tho it's not intuitive

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Couldn't you just handle this with:


breakflag = False

for x in iterator:

     if breakcondition(x):
            breakflag = True
            break  
     dostuff()
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programming.dev

found the following in our codebase the other day.

while(booleanFlag)
    return;

thhere wasn't more in the loop body, that was it. the loop conditional does exist and it can hurt you.

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lemmings.world

Can it hurt you, though? My guess would be every sane compiler and interpreter optimizes this.

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the codebase readability certainly suffers, and this isn't the only case of shenanigans like this

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i have a colleague always saying if loop (in our language). I'm a bit to shy to tell him his mistakes... People easily hate me but i would like to...

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I once went to the computer of a class mate and opened stdio.h and added #define while(x) if(x). He was so confused. 🤣

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