Spyke
lemm.ee

It’s worth watching the whole video, AOC is the type of politician that actually has a chance to have a party that represents the working class.

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Brkdncrreply
lemmy.world

I hope the Democrats can figure out before the last minute that she's a really viable candidate for President.

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lemmy.world

Most D's are captured by most of the same corporations and oligarchs as the R's. They will never allow a working class movement. Only corporate-whore lite.

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lemmy.world

If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems.

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Resonosityreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base.

Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism.

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Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors.

Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier.

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But why talk about the failings of one person when we can concentrate on the more achievable goal of fixing stupid for half the population? /s

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lemmy.world

Jaysus, liberals should just admit that they themselves benefit from growing wealth inequality as much as the right does. Who are the ones who keep voting down to build affordable housing in proudly blue states, especially California and New York? Why should the working class vote for a party that make empty promises and giving only breadcrumbs?

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Yup, total in denial. Liberal policies has been "we're not our opponent" instead of addressing housing crisis and job offshoring.

If the liberals goes further left than they are now, then they shouldn't complain why the Trump phenomenon exist. It says a lot more on liberal policies than on people in general.

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moonreply
lemmy.ml

When he encountered maize for the first time, he thought it incredibly corny.

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Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems.

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My micropenis submarine has already banned AOC from X.com because I saved drowning underaged malaysian soccer players from the pedos in the so-called british special forces.

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Aulireply
lemmy.ca

No she's not. She is a women and Americans well not vote for a woman for president. Sorry it is the truth and they have to stop doing that.

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Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes

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Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman.

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Can private security be crowdfunded? /s

A lot of others "losing" secret service protection is quite a clue to how the new regime expects violence and intimidation to be enacted.

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Aulireply

Really? I mean she might be great but she is a women. America choose trump over a women. If the Dems run a women again then they deserve to loose again. They you and me might be fine with a women president but America is not.

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flowquereply
lemmy.ml

Saying "proof" is not enough here. Can you elaborate?

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You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC?

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nomyreply
lemmy.zip

You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything?

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lemmy.world

She's in a tough spot because she dislikes a lot of what the Democratic party is doing and also refuses to even meet with lobbyists let alone take their money. To a ton of everyday people these are very good things but to either of the parties this is an enemy to the party that doesn't have the firepower to win an election. Of course, I would absolutely love to be wrong on this but history (especially recently) is not on her side.

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In the 2020 primary Bernie and Warren were regularly leading in donations. And in 2016 and 2024 Trump won despite raising less money throughout most of the campaign. Big money is not the be all and end all of politics, and when people believe in a candidate large sums can be raised.

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lemmy.ml

She's is a fucking sheepdog, that's all she is. Giving disenfranchised voters the illusion that if they stick around long enough, they too can have a seat at their table. She's a snake in the grass that cannot be trusted.

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AngryMobreply
lemmy.one

With this attitude you must trust absolutely 0 politicians i guess? Where do you go from there?

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AngryMobreply
lemmy.one

Its been 2 weeks and you didn't answer the actual quesion, good job.

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lemmy.ml

Your question would be directed at yourself and others like you. I'm not the one confused about which direction to go. My direction has never involved the duopoly.

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AngryMobreply
lemmy.one

No, it was directed at you for the sake of discussion, not confusion. But your holier than thou attitude prevents you from speaking with others properly.

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If I am viewed as holier than thou because I refuse to support the systems of oppression while also having to fight shitlibs defending it, then so be it.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

I'm with you. I mean I agree with their sentiment and I think AOC is the same as the rest. She is after all a part of the machine.

That said, it's worth distinguishing the difference between trust and hope. I always hope.

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lemmy.ml

Hope, in reality, is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man. Friedrich Nietzsche

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Ah so more nihilism. I get it then. Sorry I was assuming different. If you've checked out you've checked out. It sucks but I get it.

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Why do you say that? Everything that I've heard her say has been principled and thoughtful. I haven't read anything about her actions that I find problematic either.

So... citation needed?

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Many citations needed. Or is all of that just your opinion provided without reasoning?

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Very true, but it's not like Harris was signaling she was going to eliminate billionaires by seizing all of their wealth. So both parties are the same, right?

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