Spyke

I love how certain media call it a Roman Salute in an attempt to defend him.

Like, do they think Hitler just made it up himself?

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jonnereply
infosec.pub

He stole it from the Italians under Mussolini, who basically took it from a painting. There's no evidence the Romans used this salute, so it's always been associated with fascism.

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That's what I'm saying, it takes literally four seconds to look up where the "Roman" salute came from.

But these kids aren't big on the whole "reading" thing.

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Cheemsreply
lemmy.world

Same people that say the swastika is a symbol of peace.

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Carlreply
sh.itjust.works
lemmy.world

Ok, how often do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Nepalese, Indians, Thai, Mongolians, Sri Lankans, Chinese, Japanese, Akans, Hopis, Navajo, and Tlingit peoples spray paint it on walls or get it tattooed on their bodies in AMERICA? This isn't any of those countries you listed. The next time I see someone with a swastika on their neck and a Nazi salute here in America am I supposed to assume it's a peace loving Buddhist with an interest in Roman history?

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No, but if you see it from a person or that ethnicity and religious background, you shouldn't assume it's an ode to Hitler.

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You did not read a single thing I posted. I did not praise Nazism or Hitler. Your lights might be on, but no one is home.

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No they know they will be sued. Because it's not a nazi salute.

I wish you guess out this much energy into criticising the genocide in Gaza.

I guess we know why that is.

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sh.itjust.works

I for one am absolutely amused that every reputable news source calls it a nazi-style salute, since Elon couldn't even get the salute right, despite his best efforts.

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Isnt this the wrong community? This is not an onion or onion like article... I know Chaser usually does that, but there are no jokes or lies in there really are there? All those quotes have been said/written by someone.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

In their defense, the party said its most important action item on the talking points memo was not to trust your eyes or your ears any longer.

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lemmy.world

It's different Elon puts his hand on his heart.

I wish the genocide in Gaza got this much exposure.

I wonder why that is

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

your entire comment history is flimsy excuses and impotent obfuscation in the name of nazis, including the afd, and you concern troll about Gaza as if we can't be both against genocide and nazis at the same time.

hmm I wonder if there might be another (((reason))) a nazi apologist would insist everyone talk about Gaza only and not pay attention to out and about nazis doing nazi salutes and saying nazi shit all the time.

fuck all the way off.

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lemmy.world

Because you're delusional.

It's not a nazi salute.

He's clearly throwing his heart out to the crowd

Yet idiots like you make a huge deal about it for no reason.

You're so stupid.

And yes Gaza should get way more exposure than this bullshit story that you've cried about for days.

Gaza is way more important. But bellends like your self waste precious time on non existent things like this.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

no he's not. first of all throwing your heart isn't even a thing as a gesture. but even if it were, no one would do it in a such violent manner, pounding the chest and making a perfect nazi salute with the hand flat, not even how a hand would be shaped after throwing literally anything.

he did it with such force, in fact, that he grunted while he did it. and a lip bite. because he's a fucking dork and he was too excited to win back the nazis after the visa debacle. none of this follows a so called heart throwing sentiment.

and also that's not a fucking thing.

oh and he alludes to the 14 words as well.

and one of the first things he did when he was forced to buy Twitter was unban nazis.

and also he highlighted several nazis and publicly agreed with them when they openly posted jq shit.

you can't gaslight normal people on this. we're not fascists like the republican party and its constituence, and we're not corporations that would benefit from a fascist state. fuck you.

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lemmy.world

"no one would" so you speak for everyone now?

lol

i guess you think that way that everyone must be how you think... delusional

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

no, just people who can think.

funny how you ignored everything else. what a stupid way to say "I have nothing". he's a nazi. we knew he was before this.

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No he made an awkward gesture. This isn't definitive of anything.

You guys just hump to conclusions and only see one thing

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Just an FYI, the real meaning of that salute is the statement, "I'm a kunt!"

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lemm.ee

It's really not clear that he isn't just pointing at something/acknowledging someone with his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently

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haulyardreply
lemmy.world

And when he turned around and pointed violently at the flag in the same style? Does that make it more clear?

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

It wasn't completely clear that my comment was pure sarcasm? Seriously?

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

That's been the conservative line all day. Repeating a partisan lie word for word is not sarcasm.

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aaronreply

Nobody conservative was defending this by saying he was pointing his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently at someone

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discuss.online

I've found online that /s is almost always needed. May take a bit from the joke but also, clarifies for everyone that you are not actually being an asshole when you can't visibly roll your eyes and use the proper "sarcasm inflection"

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

I've found that people who can't detect obvious sarcasm are probably not worth the effort of explaining it

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discuss.online

Fair. I've spent most my life working with the neurodivergent community, so even IRL I know some very intelligent people need a bit of help with implied meaning. I know I've had my fair share of "woosh" moments

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Tbh one of the things that makes detecting sarcasm vs actually just defending him hard is that normally you can use prior knowledge of a persons opinions to help, but here I have no clue who you are and what your positions are and you might just be a random Nazi.

If you really don't like just having the /s there, one options is to include a spoiler and put the /s in there a few lines down.

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

Who "points their thumb" at someone "violently"? What reality is this

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VubDapplereply
lemmy.world

Assuming you're operating in good faith, just take the feedback and try to learn from it.

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

Lol. This is a community about satire, right?

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

I mean, you're not wrong.

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archonetreply
lemy.lol

if I may interject with a suggestion going forwards, I usually add one of these to a comment when I'm being a smartass

::: spoiler for the intellectually challenged /s :::

then again you may find it funnier to omit that, I'm not your dad, do what you want.

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aaronreply

I really do find it funnier to omit clues to idiots who read my comments

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Just throwing this in here, looks like he's pointing at something?

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lemm.ee

you really have to write a /s for a lot of these folks to not take everything at face value here it would appear :-/

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Eh, the richest and arguably most powerful man on the planet just did a Nazi salute, twice, on live TV. I think it's understandable that some of our nerves are a bit frayed when it comes to sarcasm/jokes about the subject.

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

Subtle sarcasm is really hard for a lot of people who comment in a community focused on satire, ironically.

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The internet is a different place than it used to be. These days every third person you see might tell you the California fires are caused by having too many black folks in the movies and be completely sure of themselves that this is a fact. It is no longer safe to assume sarcasm when you see someone say something ridiculous.

And if you just laugh and agree with it (sarcastically) or ignore it, then you're going to get new people seeing this for the first time, not getting that it's sarcasm, seeing it get agreed with or at least not refuted, and now you have two people that believe this mess. Rinse and repeat. 4chan is basically a case study for this sort of thing.

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dmention7reply
lemm.ee

Lmao sorry you're getting downvoted dude. How anyone took this comment, in this community, seriously... is beyond me!

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aaronreply
lemm.ee

He's obviously grabbing his love from his heart and throwing it out to all of his supporters. I don't know how else you could possibly interpret this.

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Now that comment felt sarcastic enough to me to need the /s. I'm still betting someone will take it seriously.

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Soupreply
lemmy.world

Oh wow, that’s even worse than I had guessed. He looks…well exactly like himself, which is to say an over-grown child who thinks being hated for being a nazi is “being a rebel”.

Incredible.

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DicJacobusreply
lemmy.world

What the fuck even is this timeline.

My estranged uncle, who was a diehard trump supporter (I think he did it because he believed the system needed to be burned down, and he thought that somehow the dems were corrupt and that the republicans weren't)

that same uncle, Moved to Texas because its where Elon went, he idolized Elon, (I should add at this point, my uncle is a fucking CANADIAN WITH A GREEN CARD. NOT A CITIZEN) that same uncle who when he was a teenager, Identified as a NATIONALIST SOCIALIST... He idolozed Elon. and then all of a sudden one day, he told the rest of the family that would still listen to him, that he'd 180'd and isn't following Elon anymore, because Elon is "evil"

the mental gymnastics and thought process is literally giving me hyper brain aids.

and this is my own flesh and blood.

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…at least his brain could catch onto some of the more recent stuff? Man it’s amazing what people need in order to see blatantly obvious shit.

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Ok, so imagine that you're a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you're going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?

So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn't, that Musk doesn't even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he's grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn't vote for him.

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sh.itjust.works

When you caught me fisting your mom did you think I was acknowledging her with my thumb and the rest of my fingers or when I was elbow deep and shouted, "I'm fisting your mom!" in your face was it clear what was actually happening?

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