What 2FA app are you switching to? (iOS)
As we all know, Ravio has been removed from the recommended multi-factor authentication apps for iOS on PrivacyGuides.
As I want to export all my TOTP codes out of Ravio ASAP, what apps are you migrating towards? I know a few were mentioned such as:
• Tofu • Ente • 2FAS • FreeOTP • Bitwarden TOTP + Yubikey
I switched to 2FAS.
You can’t export from FreeOTP. Ente doesn’t appear to be open source. Tofu is an option but I’m afraid it might not be maintained.
Edit: Use Ente. It’s the best option.
You can export from freeOTP+ Its great. You can back up to another password manager by simply copying the shared secret also. But I don't think it's available for iOS. Oh well, if you want more freedom and privacy, you'll have to move to android.
They made an annoucement 2 weeks ago about switching maintainer.
https://github.com/iKenndac/Tofu
They only support iOS/iPadOS 16.4 or later.. no go for me
I was in the middle of switching 2FA over to Raivo from Apple Keychain and you drop this aaaaa-
I was for a while contemplating myself to switch to Raivo from 2FA 😂. Now I’ll stay put. 😇
The password manager for iphone or ios has mfa built in - seems to work ok. Its a bit annoying if you use a desktop thats not mac though and have to search for the mfa code among the millions of passwords.
True but like someone else mentioned here it’s not the best having all eggs in the same basket. If for eggsample 🙂 the apple account gets compromised it’s going to be hard.
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Why are people switching away from Raivo?
/c/outoftheloop
Edit: Looks like it's been bought by a generic app developer about which there are few details to be found: https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/raivo-otp-authenticator-has-been-acquired/4962/2
I’m not a big fan of putting all your eggs in one basket. If for whatever reason your Apple account gets compromised, you’re utterly fucked lol.
Edit: After digging into 2FAS, I think it is now my top choice. Seems like more of a drop in replacement for Raivo. https://2fas.com/
My second choice is (as of this edit) Owky. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it, but it’s FOSS and has the ability to export your TOTP codes.
Im a little worried about it not being maintained though, since it’s a single developer.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/owky-two-factor-authenticator/id1602245257
Other options I’ve considered:
Tofu Authenticator. Unfortunately it’s basic though and lacks the ability to export.
ente Authenticator. Account required, and I’m a little undecided on the company. Might be a serious option though.
I use Authy. It has Apple Watch app for quick access.
I have been using Authy as well. Works great in an apple ecosystem too.
Allows a quick copy from your phone to paste into computer browser when prompted for super easy usage.
I‘m using Google Authenticator, but so far nobody else here seems to, am I doing it wrong??
They make it hard to export your seeds if you want to move to the other platform or new device + closed source.
On Android Aegis is the great alternative. On iOS Raivo OTP used to be the main recommendation, but they just got bought by relatively unknown company, which is sketcy in on itself.
I was going to ask the same question since I’m in the same boat.
Fan of OTP Auth
So I'm not on iOS but... the websites I need to use for various work things all require that you use a specific authenticator. But they all choose a different random one. It drives me insane. I have 4 different apps. Google Authenticator, Authy, Duo Mobile, and Onelogin Protect. I pray I change jobs before I get a new phone.
Oh that's interesting. I know for my work, it says to use Google Authenticator, but I am still able to sign up with any app of my choice.
I realize there are exceptions to this, and you might fall into that category, but…
Most of the time when websites say they require a particular app, they actually don’t. Like if a website says to use Google Authenticator, you can actually use any TOTP app. There is even a workaround for using Steam’s TOTP without their app.
Don’t be scared to just try importing the QR or text based code into another app when you are signing up for a service. A functioning website won’t let you progress to the next screen without having the proper code in your app.
I’m a fan of OTP Auth.
It’s been reliable, supports local and cloud backup / exporting, is simplistic in use and has a strong privacy policy.
I’m a fan of 1Password. Makes it easy to keep all my secrets in one place, behind a yubikey.
1Pass auto fill of 2FA is so OP on desktop.
I love the family sharing features as well.
I have been using ProtonMail and Drive already so it was an easy decision to switch to Proton Pass when it came out. It's an all-in-one password manager which let's you store 2FA as well and also let's you make email aliases. It's synced everywhere, on Firefox on my linux desktop to my android phone to my iPad.
Totp with bitwarden. Such a nice integration
I use Bitwarden for everything, including my totp codes. I should probably use a separate app solely for Bitwarden's totp code, but the danger of losing it all gives me such a rush!
You can write down your Bitwarden 2FA recovery codes and keep multiple copies of them in safe and private places
What happened to Raivo?
They got bought out by Mobime.
Apple Keychain OTP
I'm currently enjoying ProtonPass' built-in 2FA. You gotta be on a paid plan, however, but it's worth it imo.
Where are you keeping the 2FA code for your proton account? (Supposing you have it set up)
I keep that one in my iCloud keychain just out of convenience
I use keepassxc topt
None, just using the built in manager.
I’ve been using 1Password for years and love it. It’s multi-device support was one of the reasons I started using it, and now have a family subscription to share some things with my wife.
I rely on TOTP a lot for my IT job. With 1Password it’s easy to display them on my Apple Watch so I don’t need to keep opening the app on my phone or laptop.
Recommending iCloud keychain in a privacy forum??
It's actually pretty good security-wise, the main issue is that it completely locks you into the Apple ecosystem, while other 2FA apps and password managers are all cross-platform.
Good security-wise, maybe. But who protects you from Apple? They have access to everything they so conveniently sync for you for free. That is neither secure nor private. The same goes for Google. People don't understand how much of your stuff they have access to.
I’m currently in the process of switching to 2fas. It seemed the best available alternative for me.
I like Tofu, and I also quite like Authenticator, but so far 2FAS seems to be the only option that offers backups without an account and that isn't a full-blown password manager.
OTP Auth
I'll be using BitWarden as my 2FA app. I use KeePass as my password manager so it would still be two different services/apps.
I was planning on using Tofu but it has no FaceID which is mandatory IMO.
I am undecided btw 2FAS and Ente. 2FAS has an excellent UI, but there is no desktop app. Ente requires an account, but it’s not a problem considering that everything is E2EE and it’s a company with good reputation.
The built in password manager and keychain can handle OTP since a few versions back.
I’m using the microsoft Authenticator, is it bad?
I recommend Raivo or Tofu both open source and I believe you can save and export it somewhere else to backup.
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