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How private is the Presearch search engine?

I've been trying to find a good privacy respecting browser, but I can't really decide on what to use. I don't like the search results with Brave Search. DuckDuckGo shares my information with Microsoft and SearchXNG shows me NSFW images even with strict search on. I really like Presearch, but I'm not really sure what they're about.

EDIT: After tinkering with the settings of my SearXNG instance, it seems to have reduced the amount of NSFW images. I think I will stick with SearXNG for now.

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lemm.ee

Does that not defeat the point, because then they can see that the searches are coming from your location/internet?

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asudoxreply
discuss.tchncs.de

I host my searxng instance on a hetzner vps so my ip is not leaked anywhere.

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asudoxreply
discuss.tchncs.de

The search requests are being made on my behalf on the host (in my case, the hetzner VPS).

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RiQuYreply
lemm.ee

But they are always coming from the same IP, so you are still identifiable. If you want increased anonymity you need more people to use your instance to mix the search topics.

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asudoxreply
discuss.tchncs.de

I don't really care about anonymity much. Privacy != Anonymity.

It seems like some people use my searxng instance sometimes. It's not locked after all.

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foremanguyreply
lemmy.ml

You can host if on a vps, use it behind a vpn, or make a whole group of people using it so you don't know from who these requests were

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lemm.ee

The vpn, sure, but if you host it on a vps (and don't make it public) then all of the requests are coming from the vps's ip. This is private, but not anonymous.

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x00zreply
lemmy.world

I have started using a public instance because of this.

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foremanguyreply
lemmy.ml

The problem is that you can't customize default settings

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Even with a VPN I don't know if request are really that anonymous (anonimity is almost impossible to get)

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りん〜reply
sopuli.xyz

It's probably not that big of a deal, but I just don't want anything to do with Microsoft.

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sh.itjust.works

So they only share when you click on an ad. I use an adblocker anyway, so effectively they're not sharing anything. Or do I misunderstand?

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Exactly. It's sorta like all or nothing. If they share this, go figure what else. And maybe you misunderstood or missed some other parts.

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z3rOR0nereply
lemmy.ml

I trust a search engine if I can turn JS off and still get results.

I just use Duckduckgo Lite with Ublock Origin, NoScript, LocalCDN, Libredirect, and Chameleon extensions on hardened Firefox fork.

A self hosted Searxng would also be a good option though.

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りん〜reply
sopuli.xyz

I like DDG lite a lot, but I need to be able to search for images :c

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z3rOR0nereply
lemmy.ml

You can still use lite and then use bangs. !ddgi myimagesearch will immediately redirect you to ddg images. Duckduckgo has a plethora of useful quick search shortcuts called Bangs. Even if you don't use lite, bangs are worth looking into imho.

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It seemed extremely sketchy to me, most results were from other engines and it was embracing some weird crypto.

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lemmy.zip

Have you considered StartPage ?

It returns google results whilst stripping of all google tracking and does not track itself either.

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irotsomareply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

There's some concern now that Startpage is majority owned by an ad company. The company says they want the ad revenue rather than the user data, but it's hard to trust that. I used to use it but moved to Searxng.

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I tried Searxng but it just wasnt giving good results at all. And lacked far too many features of a modern search engine imo.

The thing is you kinda have to trust the word of all companies with how they collect your data and how they monetise themselves. I still think startpage is one of the best alternatives for privacy. Also my adblockers seem to work fine on startpage's ad links so i dont see them.

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りん〜reply
sopuli.xyz

Startpage seems like a pretty good alternative. I read their privacy policy and it looks pretty solid.

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lemmy.today

How can you make SearXNG work without problems? I've tried only one instance (not enough time) but searching for the game "Borderlands 2" (so nothing unknown) it randomly gives me

Sorry!

No results were found. You can try to:

  • Refresh the page.
  • Search for another query or select another category (above).
  • Change the search engine used in the preferences: /preferences
  • Switch to another instance: https://searx.space/

Default settings

Changing go something else and back to "General" sometimes it work

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I'll host my own instance, I just wanted to know and see if it was a common issue or not

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lemm.ee

I can only say good things about kagi. They let you adjust your search results according to how much you trust a given source, and the business model makes sense. You pay them, they give you a service. Heck, if you pay for unlimited searches, they have an actual incentive to make you search less and make you find results quickly

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りん〜reply
sopuli.xyz

Another $10 subscription just to browse the web.. I don't think it's for me.

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I stand corrected:

You pay with money or privacy, or nothing but then you should. (Or support in another way). 😉

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If you pay for privacy, other than a vpn provider, you are a victim already

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