Noodles: is a tamale a noodle?
I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?
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I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?
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Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.
I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.
Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads
Cereal in milk is a sweet dessert soup if we compare it to Okroshka (Cold russian soup).
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Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the
cakesandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't
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Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago
In L.A., there's everything from grease death and masa bombs to thin crust and dry. Husk wrapped or banana leaf wrapped. Savory or sweet. We got it all.
Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,
I’ll give you that, but still, it’s certainly not toasted.
It's not necessarily about the actual toasting. It's about how ingredients are layered. So, toast and butter is the same as rice and fish. That's how a Big Mac can be a cake.
The whole cube rule is just ragebait. And it works well lol
yeah, how? I'd say that actually a sushi roll is a tamale
Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.
What the...
I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.
nixtamalized corn dumpling: this is proper and you are righteous
Chinese tamale, or Mexican zongzi?
closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.
noodles don't have filling
what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?
I would say ravioli is not a noodle, and could be called a dumpling, yes.
David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.
I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.
don;'t leave out tamales. It's the same thing, just with masa.
Technically, ravioli is a stuffed pasta the same as tortellini. That would make it a noodle but I don't believe the same can be said for tamales. Pasta (Italian noodles) is made from a dough of semolina flour, olive oil, and eggs that is rolled into sheets or extruded into shapes. It is then cooked by boiling in water.
I don't think the dough(?) of a tamale is anywhere near the same.
What the dough is made out of isn't relevant to it being a noodle or not though, unless you think rice noodles aren't noodles because they aren't made of semolina, eggs, and oil and aren't typically cooked by boiling but rather by soaking in hot water?
Yeah, tamale dough is masa (nixtamalized corn) while ravioli is typically wheat flour, as you describe. Noodles can be made out of corn or rice, too... they're not really that different than wheat noodles. I have Celiac so I have tried a lot of gluten free noodles made from alternative grains.
Italians would lynch you for mixing linguini and spaghetti, but they don't pause for a second when referring to dumplings as Chinese ravioli.
linguini is square spaghetti? rectangular prism? so extruded
A tamale is most definitely corn bread
stuffed corn bread? but let's also make the masa distinction
Depends on the country of origin
I am in United State, Southwestern Region
The only place that might call themselves a United State is Texas.
I am New Mexico.
Okay Texas. Don't go trying to annex another Mexico again. We don't need a New Alamo.
we should just take over west texas. I mean, HEB is pretty good and you have a lot more meth than we do.
This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).
That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.
Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?
I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.
cereal is soup and i will fight anyone on this
I definitely would never agree that a bowl of cereal is a salad - i'd assert the opposite, in fact. A ravioli is definitely a dumpling though.
Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)
A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi
https://cuberule.com/ according to cube rule it is a calzone
That rule is all kinds of disturbing lol
Turduckens should be sushi or calzone, not salad.
It got hot dogs wrong, they only have two sides so they wouldn’t be considered a taco.
If hot dogs only had two sides then you couldn't set them down on the bun the way you do. And in New England it's not even close--the buns up here leave no doubt.
"Sometimes a tamale is just a tamale" - Sigmund Freud Probably
And sometimes you just really want to fuck good tamale… I mean mother.. I mean calzone!
As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD
No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.
As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy
i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol
noodle
A tamale is a ravioli, confirmed.
A tamale is a pop tart, obviously
I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.
i feel somewhat ashamed that I have not drawn a distinction - a tamale/ravioli/dumpling is a stuffed noodle, which is way more 3d.
I am angry at the very notion that a tamale could be a noodle.
Nobody should be upset about something as wonderful as a tamale, and I'm sorry if I have contributed to your feelings about that.
I created a new video: What is a Noodle? Disclaimer: I didn't.
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No. The point of noodles is that they hold their form without any help when you cook them. Without their leafy containers, tamales would be more like polenta/corn meal mush--also yummy but not noodly.
https://prnt.sc/4atIxUL1D90X R-amen.
Ramen.
Seems like a somewhat arbitrary requirement.
Not, say, if you want to make cacio e pepe. (I'm a new reddit refugee, so I haven't figured out how to respond to a comment.)
I feel like if one was to chop up a bunch of tamales in Cacio De Pepe Sauce (such as it is) it would be: pretty good
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