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LPT: If a site doesn't accept alias sites like Simplelogin, create the account with a disposable email site then change it to your alias

I just did this on a website that said my Simplelogin alias isn't allowed for signup, but changed it successfully after the fact from a disposable email.

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lemmy.ca

I just have my own domain (and mail server). If you don’t want to host a mail server (and you shouldn’t), you can get a mail forwarding service to forward all *@domain.tld emails to your email

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fmstratreply
lemmy.nowsci.com

This is a problem in the above contexts. Services have started blocking signups with:

"Please use a popular email provider like Gmail or..."

Had this happen on my custom domain recently. Chose to not use that service, as others should do, too.

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Unless it’s a necessary service I would decline to use the service.

Please name the service

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I have so far never encountered this. Which services would this be?

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I had that happen once, but I found that it worked with duckduckgo's email aliases forwarded to my own domain's email.

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Cris16228reply
lemmy.today

(and you shouldn’t)

Why? I always wanted one but never been able to do it

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

It's a lot of work to keep the spammers out and make sure gmail, etc. will accept your messages and not mark them as spam. A brand-new mail system with no history looks a lot like a new spam operation to them.

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Meg, not that difficult really. There are Docker based services that do it all self-contained.

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Why have you never been able to do it? I set up a full mail system years ago on a Xen/Linux VPS with stuff like Postfix, maildrop, Courier IMAP, a custom set of MySQL tables for aliases and such, and at one point migrated my TLS from CACert to LetsEncrypt. I enjoyed some aspects of the huge pain in the ass that all of that was, and having it work nicely was great. Spinning up a new email alias was easy and free, so I created a new one for damn near every site I interacted with, which later turned into a form of lock in having to continue running my server.

The continual server maintenance was a pain in the ass, requiring me to remember in substantial detail how it all worked so that I could appropriately integrate new things I had to learn like SPF and DMARC. I’m glad to have had some detailed sysadmin experience, but I was so glad in the end to finally migrate away from all that and just pay Fastmail instead.

I still have nearly the same flexibility with Fastmail and my custom domains, but they’re the ones that need to do all the maintenance. I can’t scale across unlimited domains for the same zero marginal cost, but I can make it work for a reasonable price with a few domains and scale arbitrarily within that. I’m sure there are other hosts out there that do a similarly good job, and Fastmail hasn’t been without its own troubles, but it’s been a net win for me.

I don’t recommend running your own server. I won’t do it again. I do recommend building an army of custom aliases all at your own custom domain(s).

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Oh, no, I have my own domain. I chose not to use the service that wouldn't accept it.

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mox
lemmy.sdf.org

What disposable email address provider is accepted at sites that reject SimpleLogin?

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My experience has been that certain vanity TLDs are not accepted, so if youre using a personal domain on simple login and it has a TLD like .email or .ninja, there's a chance it'll be rejected while temporary email with a .com TLD will skirt by.

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I got GitHub destroying 2 accounts of mine after doing something very similar. First try I thought it was a mistake. Second time i realised I was actually getting caught by some internal AI.

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lemmy.world

Could you appeal it and offer to change the email to a non-banned domain? Because that's quite severe, your GH account has all your repos, issues, and repo forum posts.

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I tried, they answered something along the lines of "this account is unrecoverable due to guidelines blablabla". I had nothing, maybe a couple of issues in some repos, nothing illegal at all.

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I pay for proton plus in my own domain and have them linked together so that I can just use whatever email address at my domain I wish and can easily switch email providers if I decide to. The hardest part was setting up the DNS records properly for DMark and shit.

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lemmy.one

Further tip; Simple Login offers premium domains that aren't listed and therefore have less negative reputation; as well as offering "Subdomains".

I urge anyone who feels they can afford to pay for what SimpleLogin can offer to do so for those features; they've given me a pretty flexible subdomain which I use frequently. Wildcards are another helpful feature; particularly for subdomains; which allows you to "make up email addresses" on the fly and have them routed appropriately depending on whatever keywords you include.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I bought a domain for $15/year that I use in these cases. It has the added benefit of being able to manage it through the simplelogin dashboard.

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casadia880reply
lemmy.ml

I do the same but it doesn't always work. I forget which site it was but there was one I ran into that checked the dns records. It blocked any domain that points to simple login servers.

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