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Ohio Sheriff's Lieutenant in hot water after social posts; "I am sorry. If you support the Democratic Party, I will not help you"

According to the news source, some of the posts stated, “I am sorry. If you support the Democratic Party, I will not help you” and “The problem is that I know which of you supports the Democratic Party, and I will not help you survive the end of days.”

In another post, according to WHIO, Rodgers wrote that people would need to “provide proof of who you voted for” before rendering aid.

https://www.wtrf.com/top-stories/ohio-sheriffs-lieutenant-in-hot-water-after-social-posts-i-am-sorry-if-you-support-the-democratic-party-i-will-not-help-you/Open linkView original on slrpnk.net
lemmy.world

He got a write up because his meds cause out of character behavior

If it’s exhibiting as bigotry based on politics he’s unfit because of how the drugs affect him at a minimum and needs to resign or be given his little retirement

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lemm.ee

Wtf? What kind of drugs may include extreme partisanship as a side effect?

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lemmy.world

They mentioned it in the article that a documented side effect is out-of-character actions or remarks.

I didn’t catch the drug itself but it does NOT say anything about memory loss and he’s claiming not to recall making or deleting any posts.

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Well, it's not Ambian. They've already made it well known that Ambian does not cause racism as a side effect.

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Come now, he was given a written reprimand, isn't that enough?

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Sounds like an endorsement to take the law into your own hands and shoot the marauders yourself

Sheriff is an elected position so nobody should be shocked that a bastard cop would go there

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lemmy.world

After your implying that what was a suitable system for an 1850s border town is somehow not ideal for a city in the 21st century? What kind of far left radical are you?

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No, but it is easier to shield shit like this if the position is elected, vs just having to comply with policy as a general employee

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Conservatism should immediately disqualify a candidate from any position of authority.

Conservatism + Power = Fascism

This has been true throughout all of human history.

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Gee, let's see how this plays out [FTA]:

Chief Deputy Mike Young sent a statement to the news station that said, in part, the Office agrees the comments made were highly inappropriate and do not reflect the Sheriff’s Office’s delivery of service to all residents, regardless of their voting preference. He stated that the station and Lt. Rodgers would work especially hard to regain the public’s trust.

"Lt. Rodgers would work especially hard to regain the public's trust." As in, 'regain it in the future'? So, pretty much no consequences then.

It is also suggested that a possible medical issue is involved in Rodgers’ actions.

Of course there's some kind of excuse - that's not what I meant, you're taking it out of context, you're twisting my words - or, in this case where there's no ambiguity, 'It must have been the drugs - but only the legal drugs, not any illegal drugs that might impact my career!'

WHIO obtained an investigative file and discovered in an inter-office communication with supervisors that Rodgers wrote, “I do not remember writing these posts or deleting any posts.”

Of course he doesn't. If he "remembered", he'd have to explain why he didn't clean them up afterward.

The file also indicates that Rodgers is prescribed sleeping medication, which Rodgers documented, “It does cause some of my communication to be ‘out of character’ which is a documented side effect.”

Here's the thing: afaik, sleep aids don't change your character, they just remove filters, so it's likely be does feel this way and just doesn't want to face the consequences of what he says. Secondly, again, he didn't clean it up afterward. If you know it 'causes some communication to be out of character', then wtf aren't you double-checking what's been posted? And aren't the posts written a little too coherently for someone spaced out on sleep meds?

According to WHIO, the Sheriff’s Office apologized for Rodgers’ behavior and said he received a written reprimand for violating the department’s social media policy and will remain on duty.

Oh, no! Not a one hour meeting and a written reprimand! The horrors!!

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The entire concept of sheriffs should be abolished. They hold outrageous amounts of unchecked power that does not come under the same level of scrutiny as a normal municipal/state police officer.

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lemmy.world

Politically motivated threat of violence? What was the term for this again?

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lemmy.nowsci.com

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

As soon as a democrat voter has an issue woth a police response, all they have to do is claim bias.

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I’ll bet every convict that went to prison after being arrested by this guy now has a reason to get their case reviewed.

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lemmy.world

Fire his ass and replace him with someone who takes his oath of office seriously.

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sure. wait on government to fix the problem.

OR

take the matter into your own hands. we'd have fixed the police problem by now if they were scared of us.

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lemmy.ml

Are you suggesting 12 year olds are going to be using pressure cooker bombs to fight cops within 72 hours of any sort of apocalyptic event?

Does Gen Alpha really go that hard?

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lemmy.ml

If it’s truly the end of days everyone is gonna learn to trust absolutely no random person whatsoever within like 12 hours

If other disasters and breakdowns of social order are anything to go by, not really. Communities tend to band together in those cases.

Murdering your neighbors to eat what's in their fridges: Extremely high risk, best possible outcome is a few days of food.

Working with your neighbors to establish mutual defense, food production, healthcare, etc: Lower risk than anything else, possibility to replicate most of those things society had been providing.

Although there's definitely a cultural aspect, Hurricane Katrina had a wealthy gated community with dudes driving around in pickups murdering any "looters" from flooded areas and police ambushed and murdered a family walking by the Danziger Bridge. Even in those cases though, this was organized violence as opposed to a free-for-all.

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lemmy.ml

The community coming together to burn the police station after the police murdered someone in broad daylight and wasn't brought to justice isn't exactly the chaotic scene you're suggesting.

Couple thousand people going crazy and independently shooting up random places

Why would they shoot up random places? Why would this result in everyone else murdering people at random instead of implementing mutual defense?

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So when there isn't a civil war and total chaos come Tuesday, you'll reevaluate your position?

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And nothing will be done about this literally fascist. Please send help America in trouble and us leftist need to get arned.

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lemmy.world

Don't they need to take some kind of Oath?

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lemmy.world

It has been found in court that police have no responsibility whatsoever to serve or protect the public.

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Oath, shmoath, they're getting a paycheck. I never took an oath to write good software, but I did it.

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lemmy.world

The “end of days”? So sick of these deranged religious fanatics.

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Daily reminder police in USA don't have to do anything to protect people

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/do-the-police-have-an-obligation-to-protect-you/

The answer is no.

In the 1981 case Warren v. District of Columbia, the D.C. Court of Appeals held that police have a general "public duty," but that "no specific legal duty exists" unless there is a special relationship between an officer and an individual, such as a person in custody.

The U.S. Supreme Court has also ruled that police have no specific obligation to protect. In its 1989 decision in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the justices ruled that a social services department had no duty to protect a young boy from his abusive father. In 2005'sCastle Rock v. Gonzales, a woman sued the police for failing to protect her from her husband after he violated a restraining order and abducted and killed their three children. Justices said the police had no such duty.

Most recently, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld a lower court ruling that police could not be held liable for failing to protect students in the 2018 shooting that claimed 17 lives at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

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lemm.ee

Police telling Democrats they won't help them in case of Emergency is PROOF that DEMOCRATS need to TONE DOWN Their Rhetoric!

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Sounds like non-Republicans need to start forming their own armed networks to protect each other if existing "Law Enforcement" refuses to.

I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

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They always help the wealthy, unless the harm was against another wealthy person and then it comes down to connections.

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