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lemm.ee

I'm new to this community. What is this thread? Do people submit their own votes for a straw poll here?

As far as I can tell, it seems like most commenters have their own computer ranking systems that they're explaining as they submit.

It's all pretty interesting, but pretty intimidating for someone new to this place.

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WVbrUreply
lemmy.world

Pretty much! It doesn't have to be a computer poll, it can be just your opinion, or a hybrid.

I do a computer poll, because a) I don't watch enough games to make an informed ranking and b) it's a fun exercise in coding and tuning the algorithm(s) for me.

You also don't need to share your ballot in the comments, but I also enjoy sharing and explaining what my algorithm is doing and if/where I disagree with it.

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milkisklimreply
lemm.ee

If you use an API to get stats for your algorithm would you be willing to say which ones? Making my own sounds like a fun casual project.

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![email protected] took the words right out of my mouth. I agree that it can be pretty intimidating at first. Either to put together a computer poll (which I still haven't done as I haven't found one that represents my big orange bias well enough) or to put together a human poll. I would say if you're interested in the former most of the commenters around here are huge nerds (no offense y'all) and would likely be willing to show you a thing or two. Putting together a human poll is probably easier, but at least for me starting out I was certainly worried and sometimes blocked by my own perceived "correctness". Remember though, there are no right or wrong answers.

Part of the reason we have this open poll is to get as many ballots as possible, and smooth out any noise from strange rankings. We also have a lot of fun with those strange rankings, at least once a season we get a ballot with someones favorite team taking the top spot with no justification other than "Go " and it always brings a smile to my face at least. Again some advice if you're interested in starting your own human poll, a good place to start is by "correcting" the AP poll so that you think it's good. After a few weeks of this you start to get a hang for your own ranking system and again, there are no right or wrong answers. As an added bonus we're doing a cfb bracket prediction contest next week that you still have time to become eligible for! More information in the pinned post here.

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My ballot. Computer poll. My Longhorns fall out of the top spot. Womp womp.

I genuinely checked USC about 5 times over the past couple days to make sure I didn't input any data incorrectly or screwed up the formula, but it actually has them tied for 9th. It's super nutty, but everything else checks out. The reason the Trojans are so high is mostly their schedule -- they didn't play any FCS teams, which get heavily docked in my algorithm. Although they've lost 4 games, they're all by 1 score. But with ND at the end of the year, that schedule is just brutal. It's like they're trying to get Lincoln Riley fired.

::: spoiler Full ranking:

RankChangeTeamRecordPoints
1+1Notre Dame7-1576
2-1Texas7-1571
3+2Alabama6-2543
4+4Oregon8-0521
5+1Indiana8-0515
6+11Texas A&M7-1482
7+3Ole Miss6-2481
8+1Ohio State6-1479
T9+2Miami (FL)8-0475
T9+2USC4-4475
11+3BYU8-0467
12-9Clemson6-1461
13-9Georgia6-1459
14+2Virginia Tech5-3457
15-SMU7-1453
16+6Penn State7-0449
17-10Tennessee6-1445
18+1LSU6-2426
19+1Georgia Tech5-4424
20+8Colorado6-2420
21+5Kansas State7-1419
22+17Arkansas5-3415
23+4Vanderbilt5-3411
24+11Minnesota5-3409
25+5JMU6-2408
26-2Wisconsin5-3407
27-2UNLV6-2404
28-15Iowa State7-0401
T29-Cincinnati5-3400
T29+12Iowa5-3400
31+3Tulane6-2392
32+12California4-4390
T33+3Louisville5-3389
T33-15South Carolina4-3389
T35-15Army7-0385
T35+4Michigan5-3385
37-6Kentucky3-5382
38+24Pittsburgh7-0378
39-16Arizona State5-2375
40+13Baylor4-4374
41-Duke6-2373
42+2Utah4-4372
T43-11Illinois6-2369
T43-5Washington4-4369
45+20Miami (OH)4-4366
46-Boston College4-4365
T47-Washington State7-1364
T47-15Missouri6-2364
T47+5Nebraska5-3364
T47+7Kansas2-6364
51+4TCU5-3362
52-3Memphis7-1360
T53-4Northern Illinois4-4358
T53+27North Carolina4-4358
55-4Oklahoma4-4357
56+2Sam Houston6-2354
T57+6Texas Tech5-3351
T57+17Auburn3-5351
59+1Connecticut5-3350
60+11Old Dominion4-4348
61-14Northwestern3-5346
62+9Jacksonville State4-3344
63+3Boise State6-1342
64+14West Virginia4-4339
T65-6Toledo5-3333
T65-5Maryland4-4333
T67+13Bowling Green4-4332
T67+3Oklahoma State3-5332
69-33Florida4-3331
70-3UCF3-5329
71+17South Alabama4-4327
72-16Navy6-1325
T73-6Rutgers4-4324
T73+6Arizona3-5324
75-32Texas State4-3322
T76-13Virginia4-4321
T76+7Michigan State4-4321
78+8Houston3-5319
79+11Fresno State5-3317
80+13Georgia Southern5-3313
T81-25Louisiana6-1310
T81+1UNT5-3310
T81-8Nevada3-6310
84-9San Jose State5-3308
T85-8Syracuse5-2307
T85+10Ohio5-3307
87-3Florida State1-7303
T88+2Eastern Michigan5-3299
T88+10Western Michigan5-3299
90-23Western Kentucky5-2292
91+8Wake Forest4-4288
T92-19NC State4-4284
T92-7Oregon State4-4284
T92+1FIU2-6284
95+7ECU4-4282
T96+1Colorado State5-3273
T96+7New Mexico3-5273
98+3Louisiana Tech3-4269
99-13UCLA2-5266
100-11Marshall4-3260
101+5Arkansas State5-3259
102-6Buffalo4-4257
T103-11Coastal Carolina4-3248
T103+6UTSA3-5248
105-5Mississippi State1-7245
106+5Liberty5-1242
T107+5Charlotte3-5241
T107+9Stanford2-6241
109+3Rice2-6240
110+4Troy1-7239
111+8Hawaii3-5238
112-5UL Monroe5-2235
T113+2San Diego State3-4234
T113-5Temple2-6234
115-11Central Michigan3-5233
116+1Wyoming1-7228
117+1Ball State3-5224
118+1UTEP1-7222
119-15FAU2-5221
120+2Georgia State2-5219
121+2Tulsa3-5210
122-13USF3-4206
123+2Utah State2-6205
T124+8Appalachian State3-4189
T124+7Akron2-6189
126+1Southern Mississippi1-7186
127-8Air Force1-6182
128-4Massachusetts2-6179
129+1Middle Tennessee2-6175
130+3Kennesaw State1-6171
131-5New Mexico State2-5157
132-4Purdue1-6153
133-4UAB1-6151
134-Kent State0-8144
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MaroonMagereply
lemmy.world

Your computer usually isn't very kind to my Texas A&M Aggies...glad to see it's softening up on them some.

If the Longhorns and the Aggies both make it to Thanksgiving with only one loss, the hype is going to be unreal.

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Oh I feel like it always places A&M too high (even trying to compensate for the Burnt Orange Bias), but this season it feels right. I'm surprised your computer has y'all as low as 12th -- although that is a very A&M number.

The hype for that game was always going to be off the charts, but I really hope we both run the table getting there to up the ante. It also becomes a de facto play-in game to the SECCCG. It would be awesome if that game could be a rematch, although unfortunately one of the teams will likely be Georgia. :/ There is good rematch potential in the playoff though. Salivating at the idea of beating A&M twice in one season...

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Here are the results from my computer poll. Oregon overtakes Indiana, and Notre Dame gets a big boost. Navy sadly falls out of the Top 25, but still on the bubble.

  1. Oregon
  2. Indiana
  3. Notre Dame
  4. Penn State
  5. Miami
  6. Texas
  7. Texas A&M
  8. Pittsburgh
  9. Ohio State
  10. BYU
  11. Clemson
  12. SMU
  13. Kansas State
  14. Iowa State
  15. Tennessee
  16. Georgia
  17. LSU
  18. Alabama
  19. Colorado
  20. Army
  21. Virginia Tech
  22. Ole Miss
  23. Boise State
  24. Washington State
  25. Tulane

:::spoiler Full Rankings

RankTeamRecordRatingSOS
1Oregon(8-0)1376963
2Indiana(8-0)1363883
3Notre Dame(7-1)13521024
4Penn State(7-0)1333980
5Miami(8-0)1323936
6Texas(7-1)13121018
7Texas A&M(7-1)13111014
8Pittsburgh(7-0)1301897
9Ohio State(6-1)12811053
10BYU(8-0)1279927
11Clemson(6-1)1277972
12SMU(7-1)1274939
13Kansas State(7-1)1271975
14Iowa State(7-0)1269923
15Tennessee(6-1)1269920
16Georgia(6-1)1265992
17LSU(6-2)12341021
18Alabama(6-2)12331130
19Colorado(6-2)1226974
20Army(7-0)1223760
21Virginia Tech(5-3)12101040
22Ole Miss(6-2)1205933
23Boise State(6-1)1204963
24Washington State(7-1)1189931
25Tulane(6-2)1177894
26Memphis(7-1)1167823
27Illinois(6-2)1154980
28Minnesota(5-3)1148932
29Louisville(5-3)11441047
30Vanderbilt(5-3)1144979
31Navy(6-1)1142861
32Arkansas(5-3)1135952
33Western Kentucky(5-2)1122871
34Missouri(6-2)1121960
35Wisconsin(5-3)1118954
36Cincinnati(5-3)11151006
37Iowa(5-3)1113970
38Michigan(5-3)11121093
39Florida(4-3)1110997
40Nebraska(5-3)1110982
41South Carolina(4-3)11101064
42Syracuse(5-2)1110952
43Arizona State(5-2)1108926
44Louisiana(6-1)1108829
45TCU(5-3)1100909
46Duke(6-2)1099908
47UNLV(6-2)1098914
48Old Dominion(4-4)1091997
49James Madison(6-2)1090863
50Baylor(4-4)1061964
51Miami (OH)(4-4)1061976
52Georgia Southern(5-3)1057942
53Washington(4-4)1056988
54Sam Houston(6-2)1055867
55USC(4-4)10531078
56Fresno State(5-3)1051893
57Texas Tech(5-3)1048982
58Georgia Tech(5-4)1042996
59UConn(5-3)1035852
60Liberty(5-1)1032737
61North Carolina(4-4)1032993
62West Virginia(4-4)10271033
63Jacksonville State(4-3)1024837
64Wake Forest(4-4)1024976
65UL Monroe(5-2)1022842
66Ohio(5-3)1014871
67Michigan State(4-4)10121006
68Colorado State(5-3)1011878
69California(4-4)1006958
70Texas State(4-3)1001872
71Western Michigan(5-3)999865
72Marshall(4-3)996938
73North Texas(5-3)990886
74Boston College(4-4)989980
75South Alabama(4-4)989897
76NC State(4-4)988972
77Maryland(4-4)987986
78Oklahoma(4-4)9821104
79Auburn(3-5)980963
80Toledo(5-3)975855
81Virginia(4-4)972973
82Houston(3-5)9641024
83UCLA(2-5)9621173
84Arkansas State(5-3)957874
85East Carolina(4-4)957890
86Bowling Green(4-4)955918
87UCF(3-5)9391069
88Kentucky(3-5)9351066
89San José State(5-3)931815
90Coastal Carolina(4-3)930929
91Utah(4-4)920900
92San Diego State(3-4)918832
93Rutgers(4-4)913960
94Eastern Michigan(5-3)908805
95Kansas(2-6)9061015
96Northwestern(3-5)9031025
97Buffalo(4-4)898893
98Oklahoma State(3-5)897991
99Charlotte(3-5)895994
100Oregon State(4-4)893926
101Arizona(3-5)8891004
102South Florida(3-4)887959
103Northern Illinois(4-4)873896
104Ball State(3-5)871904
105App State(3-4)866939
106Florida State(1-7)8621147
107New Mexico(3-5)858817
108Hawai'i(3-5)842866
109Tulsa(3-5)834862
110Stanford(2-6)8241093
111Temple(2-6)818985
112Louisiana Tech(3-4)816739
113Central Michigan(3-5)810885
114Mississippi State(1-7)8051077
115Nevada(3-6)801921
116Rice(2-6)801944
117UTSA(3-5)799850
118Purdue(1-6)7971058
119Florida Atlantic(2-5)790888
120Utah State(2-6)780879
121Akron(2-6)767948
122Florida International(2-6)754874
123Georgia State(2-5)753942
124New Mexico State(2-5)752891
125Massachusetts(2-6)727830
126UTEP(1-7)724912
127Middle Tennessee(2-6)720942
128UAB(1-6)717998
129Kennesaw State(1-6)707859
130Southern Miss(1-7)697928
131Troy(1-7)691931
132Wyoming(1-7)684885
133Air Force(1-6)676870
134Kent State(0-8)5921004
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Computer poll, resume ranking. Ohio State/Penn State gonna make things interesting this weekend. Also, Liberty fell 41 rankings with their loss to the Kennesaw Hoots, which is a huge change this late in the season.

  1. Oregon (1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 1 ( - )
  2. Penn State (5.35) | 7 - 0 | LW: 2 ( - )
  3. Ohio State (7.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 6 (+3)
  4. Miami (9.96) | 8 - 0 | LW: 5 (+1)
  5. BYU (11.47) | 8 - 0 | LW: 4 (-1)
  6. Notre Dame (11.7) | 7 - 1 | LW: 9 (+3)
  7. Iowa State (11.82) | 7 - 0 | LW: 8 (+1)
  8. Indiana (13.1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 3 (-5)
  9. Pittsburgh (13.56) | 7 - 0 | LW: 13 (+4)
  10. Texas (13.65) | 7 - 1 | LW: 7 (-3)
  11. Alabama (14.88) | 6 - 2 | LW: 11 ( - )
  12. Texas A&M (16.56) | 7 - 1 | LW: 16 (+4)
  13. Georgia (18.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 10 (-3)
  14. Boise State (20.02) | 6 - 1 | LW: 19 (+5)
  15. Kansas State (20.68) | 7 - 1 | LW: 12 (-3)
  16. SMU (22.52) | 7 - 1 | LW: 18 (+2)
  17. Clemson (22.97) | 6 - 1 | LW: 14 (-3)
  18. Tennessee (25.57) | 6 - 1 | LW: 20 (+2)
  19. Washington State (28.2) | 7 - 1 | LW: 21 (+2)
  20. LSU (30.75) | 6 - 2 | LW: 17 (-3)
  21. Army (31.71) | 7 - 0 | LW: 22 (+1)
  22. Ole Miss (35.05) | 6 - 2 | LW: 27 (+5)
  23. Colorado (35.77) | 6 - 2 | LW: 32 (+9)
  24. Navy (37.05) | 6 - 1 | LW: 15 (-9)
  25. Illinois (37.16) | 6 - 2 | LW: 23 (-2)
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My ballot this week, late as with everything else as I play catch up. Poll will be up in maybe a few hours as I gotta bust out some work before I have time for that.

  1. Oregon
  2. Georgia
  3. Miami (FL)
  4. Tennessee
  5. Texas
  6. Indiana
  7. Iowa State
  8. Ohio State
  9. Army
  10. LSU
  11. Clemson
  12. Notre Dame
  13. Penn State
  14. Illinois
  15. BYU
  16. Texas A&M
  17. Boise State
  18. Pittsburgh
  19. Vanderbilt
  20. Alabama
  21. Kansas State
  22. Washington State
  23. UNLV
  24. Nebraska
  25. Arkansas

Also ngl, as a gator hator, they are probably on my short list of missing the ballot this week. If they manage an upset at TWLOCP...

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