Spyke
lemm.ee

If both sides are the same, can we at least veer a little bit away from fascism? Hint: both sides are not the same. Your vote for democracy does matter.

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I don't need to preach to the choir about ultra conservatives being ultra conservatives, that's a given

+ as I already said in another comment: If your definition of "left leaning" is "genocidal neoliberal war criminal", that's on you

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Maybe do something between voting. Voting is the bare minimum. Then you fight the years between.

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lemmy.ml

You are!

Don't just vote - go out on the streets and demand that the Dems condemn the genocide and to stop sending military aid to Israel if they actually want your vote!

If you won't risk having your rights taken away on the grounds of literal genocide - what would you risk them for?

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Right, because the alternative somehow isn't "genocide, but also you lose even more of what little power you still have over this supposed democracy."

Even if this election doesn't let us end the genocide, one option is actively threatening to use military force against political dissidents, which tends to make it even harder to push for a change in foreign policy.

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"Even if" and "threatening to use military force against political dissidents"? - like how Kamala vowed to unconditionally support the genocide? or Gavin Newsom strategically used violent police force to disband pro-Palestinian encampments but not defend them against counter protestors? - it's already impossible to push for a change in foreign policy under blue rule - why do you think that will suddenly change when they get another 4 years in office?

But hey they haven't come for you yet, so you can sleep easy knowing there's brown people, political dissidents and lgbtq+ folk to be taken away before it's your turn..

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lemmy.ml

Some of my rights have already been taken away under the current Supreme Court and I’m not willing to risk the rights of myself and others for the sake of some self-righteous quest.

Finally, I respect you for going mask off - you're not willing to lose your freedom for somebody outside your country - you believe your lives cost more than theirs and doing anything that puts you at risk is not worthwhile.

We can’t completely dismantle the system in a week so what else can we do right now?

Have you tried taking direct action against weapon manufacturers? Going to Harris rallies and calling her out for supporting genocide? Convincing others to take drastic measures instead of just voting for the lesser evil? Those are small things that actually help dismantle the system - voting doesn't.

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Damn, I can't wait to hear about all the things you're doing to try and actually end the abominable genocide against the people of Palestine. Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that and also voting against the guy who promised to double-down and bring the violence home against immigrants.

Pretending Trump's presidency wouldn't be objectively worse for all the causes leftists care about, even the ones (like Palestine) Harris isn't going to do shit about isn't taking a principled stand. It's hiding from what little power you have in the electoral system in order to keep whatever happens next off your conscience. And frankly, the Palestinians don't care about your conscience any more than the Hispanic Americans or trans kids.

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azuthreply
sh.itjust.works

Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that

What have you looked at so far?

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Samvegareply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Meanwhile the rest of us are looking for ways to do that

What have you looked at so far?

3 days on, and the list is still being compiled... I guess?

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Probably busy campaigning to fix electoral college/first past the post. I am certain they were not just empty words.

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And frankly, the Palestinians don’t care about your conscience any more than the Hispanic Americans or trans kids.

All children deserve safety.

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Can't wait for you people to head back to reddit, where your kind belong.

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At least the Republican backed genocide will also be making life living hell for LGBTQI people, women, and migrants in the US as well.

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People come to a meme community and expect a deep, well-reasoned essay on the state of things and the best ways forward from one captioned image :-\ Is there not a dichotomy between nuance and memes?

The comments around here are just wild flailings based mostly on assumptions. There's nothing to argue with. It's a picture with some text on it, popularized as the simplest form of humour. Looking at the comments around here now feels like watching a bunch of people arguing with a dog. There's really not so much being said.

This is kinda baffling, is what I'm getting at. It looks like almost nothing's been said so people are furiously attacking things that haven't. 🤷

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

For real. It happens constantly. There's a lot of sealions out there who take the existence of a meme as an invite to a debate.

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