Spyke
lemmy.nz

That graph is so misleading. Makes it look like almost all the users disappeared but the Y axis only covers a small range at the top.

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Stevereply
communick.news

The full range is about 5.5%. So while it is misleading, a 5% drop in a graph that consistent isn't nothing. Something substantial absolutly changed

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Cool then it should be 5.5% of the visual space for it to not be misleading. But it’s represented much larger. And OP is (edit to sound less mean) not updating the post sooo…

I call shade

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Davereply
lemmy.nz

Exactly. Not the over a million that it looks like at a glance.

The user count isn't helpful anyway, active users is a much better measure.

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feddit.org

I captured the graph with the number after the decrease at the bottom right to try to show the number of lost users, but I see where you come from

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beefbotreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

If you saw why people would criticise it then you’d… edit the post, recapture the graph with an accurate visual representation including the zero on the Y axis?

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Well...

  • that's how the website displayed the graph when I took that screenshot, I'm pretty sure you can't modify the axis
  • I'm not on my computer at the moment, editing is the most I can do right now
  • if you can capture the graph with 0 on the Y axis, please post it below and I'll update the picture
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SlothMamareply
lemmy.world

It's the only way to demonstrate the fall, of you did it at scale it would've even be noticeable.

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lemmy.zip

There are people here who didn't even notice the axis and are confused. How do you expect everyone to notice a 5% drop lol.

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My point is that it is hardly visible and doesn't show the exact numbers properly. I prefer the current style of graph for showing sudden changes if the previous data points isn't that important in the context. But everyone has their preference I suppose.

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Or just inform the other adults to consult the axis for clarification.

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Jumutareply
sh.itjust.works

no it's not?

you can see the axes and op even mentions that it's a 5% drop

the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

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In my classes on analytics, we were taught to prefer using normalised axes starting at 0 to more accurately put changes into perspective.

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the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

That's the problem. It's heavily skewed when compared to the greater overall engagement statistics.

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I have a feeling it was caused by something like that, likely a failure of some kind. The drop is way too steep and abruptly for it to be natural.

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feddit.org

Active users are daily too (you have day, week and month counters in the sidebar of all communities)

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feddit.org

The Fediobserver has daily and monthly stats for active users. I assume daily indeed follow daily variations. You also saw those huge bumps when LW updated and started counting votes as activity

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Danteriousreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn't change as fast I think.

Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is more evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

Edit: wording

Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn’t change as fast I think.

Indeed, I was remembering it wrong, you might be right!

Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is much clearer evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

Definitely

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sh.itjust.works

Which one of you forgot to open the app so we all ceased to exist to save on simulation resources?

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Evotechreply
lemmy.world

Ah, I didn't know.

The monthly graph is pretty interesting in the same way, -400k?

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Interestingly the amount of active users status pretty solid at 200k indeed

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feddit.org

Indeed, the plot thickens.

Maybe the farm bot owner decided to make all comments by a single bot now.

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Was the metric measured before the day the was over which would limit the timeframe of the final day and show fewer users?
I dont see this chart when I click the link

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