2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread
FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX 2023
| Circuit stats | |
|---|---|
| First Grand Prix | 1986 |
| Number of laps | 70 |
| Lap record | 1:16.627 Lewis Hamilton (2020) |
| 2022 winner | Max Verstappen |
FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX 2023
| Circuit stats | |
|---|---|
| First Grand Prix | 1986 |
| Number of laps | 70 |
| Lap record | 1:16.627 Lewis Hamilton (2020) |
| 2022 winner | Max Verstappen |
Perez has won so many undeserved DOTD votes on the back of his shit qualifying performances.
I think it should have gone to Lando. Being able to keep Checo behind like that in the last stint was impressive!
Max was probably coasting most of the race while Perez was pushing. He still finished over half a minute behind Max. That was not only a shit qualifying performance, but also a bad performance today.
Well its not DOTWeekend
ahh yes, the weekly shifting of the perez expectation goalposts.
That manoeuvre is basically called "doing a Perez" at this point.
At least he makes it entertaining
not on his own merit
Sure, but still better than just seeing 2 red bulls just sail out front into a 1, 2
Not bad from Ricciardo , out scoring Tsunoda after being hit by Zhou at the start
And his last 40 or so laps were on the same set of medium tires!
I agree, not too bad of a drive from him!Although both Alpines retiring certainly helped.
For his overall finishing position, certainly, but his main objective will be to finish ahead of Tsunoda consistently.
You're right--I think any chance he has for a seat next year comes down to outperforming Tsunoda.
Guys I think we should pitch in and hire a therapist for Charles
🥲
Foster kitten is transfixed. She loves F1
I assume she's a Purrez fan?
Or maybe Oscat Piastri
Hopefully not a Purre Gasly fan 😹
Kimi Meowkönen
Time to foster fail, she's a keeper
Goes to her furever home on Friday sadly. Been a fun 6 weeks with her
Aww sweet
What a start by Piastri! He's so impressive for a rookie.
Let's hope he'll start getting some recognition soon, I can't believe how few people are hyping him!
I agree, I think more people will notice now that he's got a competitive car. He hasn't been that far off Lando all season
And Lando is considered by many to be one of the best on the grid, only a hair behind the elites like Lewis/Max. Super impressive for a damn rookie!
Underrated part of Max's driving is just how damn good he is at conserving tyres.
Consistently the last to pit on the same tyres.. (along with Alonso)
He definitely deserves the "tire whisperer" monicker more than Checo.
He got that moniker partly because Racing Point loved starting on hards and going long. Not to say he didn't execute well, but it was also a product of strategy.
also those were the old 13 inch tires
I don’t think Checo figured out the 18 inch tires like Max has
Great point, absolutely agreed!
I was laughing when the podium cars were lined up. Max's tires were absolutely shredded, Checo's were fairly bad, Lando's had some light wear. Max makes it look easy to drive on tires that look like they were in a warzone.
It is bits of rubber outside of trajectory. Drivers drive on them after crossing finish line. They stick to the tires and add some weight. It helps from DQ in some cases.
Well, that is one way of swapping Charles and Carlos.
Crazy how firmly Ferrari have established themselves as the perpetual butt of the joke.
Lol 5s for causing 2 DNF +sending Ric down to last. WTF
Penalties are absolutely random.
Might as well just send it into the midfield, gain 10 places and take the 5s
Yea I was sure he would get 10s at the very least but the 5s is almost worth it
They really need to change the approach, they should consider the outcome of the driver's actions.
Yeah ridiculous that taking 2 drivers out is as bad as running wide 3 times
They're always pretty lenient on incidents at race starts.
Yeah it makes sense but I think the track limit thing needs to change. I think Norris has 2 Track limit infringements right now... Maybe I'm just a bit traumatized by Austria tbh
I reckon that's fair. Probably as bad as going of the track 3 times
/s
Verstappen's utter dominance aside I like this season. It's very unpredictable from 2 to 16
And Gasly had a fantastic start too, that was such bad luck.
They just said his seat broke in half when his car landed. That must have been a pretty painful incident too.
That was Esteban iirc
Excited to see what the Alfa Romeos can do. The victory will easily go to Max though I think.
Let's see how aggressive he and Lewis get on lap 1
You have to think that Lewis has nothing to gain by settling for 2nd, and Max wouldn't let his own kid win a backyard race, so he's not conceding anything
That’s a possibility indeed that something would happen at the start. But in a clean race,
I can’t see Lewis or anyone else matching Max’s pace.
Let's go. Super exited about this race.
Hyped! Looking out for
I'm just stoked there's two Aussies on the F1 grid, and they're both good, and, if the stars align, they both get points.
Also the possibility of a bit of Hammy v Max battling again, even just a bit.
Same here. It’s shaping up to be a good one.
Inb4 max is 3s clear at the end of lap 1
With Lando and Lewis retiring after a collision.
Mate.. please.. it would have cost you literally nothing to not have written that comment
Same, the return of danny ric... let's go motorracing!
Come on Ricciardo!!
I’m a max fan, but a 33 second victory is insane
force him to start in p15
It genuinely doesn't matter. We've already seen it. Remember Miami?
Piastri is seriously impressive, seems like a veteran out there.
Really cannot fathom how/why Sainz is still behind Leclerc
Just Ferrari things
RB is going to win the rest of this, aren’t they
That is such a crazy record to beat. And if what crofty is saying is Monza could wrap the constructors and Singapore could wrap the drivers.
This season has been a write-off since Bahrain is we're being honest. Most people didn't want to be pessimistic but the expert analysts warned us even after testing already, and after a handful of races it was definitely clear.
What I'm curious about is whether anyone else can win before 2026. I know it sounds negative but the cars are more reliable than ever and the driver quality of the grid is higher than ever, so the chances of random incidents taking out both RBs are lower than they've ever been. And Max himself has basically completely cut out mistakes from his driving.
Mclaren is looking insane. That car is rapid and this isn’t where they thought they’d be good but they’re fucking nailing it. Same with their Pitstops. A few years ago we were clowning how bad their pit crews were, this is a far cry from that
It's great to see how much of a jump they've made mid-season. They're where Aston Martin was at the start of the season, but with two competitive drivers.
Piastri has impressed quite a bit. I was iffy on him before the season and even the beginning of the season. I’ve been proved wrong though. He’s keeping up where he needs to
I completely agree. He's only been a little behind Lando all season, which is pretty impressive for a rookie.
Hoping for big things from McLaren, Lando has great race pace the other top runners only have one car at the front so pit stop strategy should be in their hands
He's in a really good position to get a run on Max at the start. Hopefully he can get ahead and keep Max behind a bit longer than Silverstone!
Poor Oscar for losing 2nd with strategy. Hopefully they can both stay on the podium at least.
RIP Alpine
So Sainz is his own strategist now hahaha
Dude Alpine is so unlucky
I feel like the grid is the wrong way around here and pole should have been on the inside.
Or Max is just that damn good.
Before the race started, every driver/pundit said the inside is usually quite dirty and it statistically puts you at a distinct disadvantage down to turn one. This year's race start runs contrary to previous years where the pole sitter has comfortably held the lead.
Yup. Regardless of who one supports, it is a bad design IMHO.
I feel like I remember Bottas talking about purposely trying to qualify 2nd here in 2021
I think the reason is because the outside is the normal racing line, so the inside is typically dirty
That was certainly a race
Ferrari please just one race without a fuckup.
We would see Ferrari change its color to blue before that happens
Max just Blitzed everyone else. That was insane. Everyone else is the one 1:22/1:23’s and Max drops a 1:20.5
The only way we're going to see competitive figths for the win the coming years is if Red Bull seriously fucks up the car. I'm not trying to be defeatist or anything and I'm in complete awe of his skill, but Max is actually just levels above.
Max is one of those generational talents that is just going to be blisteringly fast in any kind of machinery, but when he’s given a good car he’s unstoppable.
Mclaren has gotten closer, and if they stay on their current trajectory we might see something.
The thing is Max is good enough that somewhat equal machinery isn't going to make any difference, except reduce the gap he wins by. I'm genuinely convinced he needs a significantly weaker car for there to be an actual fight. He really is that good.
When he eventually retires after going into some other disciplines like WEC, I'm fairly sure he'll be considered one of (perhaps the) best drivers of all time.
Completely agree.
Pre-2021 Max was fighting with prime LH in a significantly worse car, and while not regularly winning, he was still fast.
I hope to see him in WEC and other disciples. If he can win there too he’ll definitively be considered one of the best drivers of all time up there with Clark and a few others.
I'm glad you mentioned Clark because that is actually the name that I think of too when I see Max, especially what with him casually being able to compete with the best sim racers in the world as a hobby in parallel to being perhaps the best F1 driver we've ever seen.
I think he'll be in that same discussion of just universal genius drivers who can be instinctively fast in anything.
I agree. And I think the only way Redbull will end up with a significantly weaker car during these regs is if reduced windtunnel and CFD time dramatically stacks up.
And he'll probably pull enough of a gap he could pit, put on softs, and do a 1:19 if he wanted
Well you aren’t wrong. 31 second gap at the end
Wake me up when something happens
Wasn't that a Green Day song?
When september ends
Tires per driver: https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/78f54d65-f356-434d-b37f-d8b194362208.jpeg
RIP Zhou, what a bummer
Have they told Charles about his penalty yet?
It's a bit odd seeing all these medium compounds at the front. I think the new tire allocation will result in a lot more strategies
Did Max just casually do 1.20.5? What?
Does anyone think the Alfas will be able to maintain their qualifying pace in the race? Or will they be like Haas and drop back over time?
My understanding is that their race pace looked quite good in the practices.
wow Alpine having a rough month
I just feel bad for LeClerc
Mclaren looking great
Mercedes poor performance in the heat again
McLaren confirming their good upgrades then
Perez looking decent now! He needs this after a bad quali.
Sky must have chosen this race for the kids broadcast so that they could have their nap
Ferrari gonna Ferrari, while Perez gets frustrated behind Hamilton.
Too bad Lewis doesn't have a few more laps to attempt this overtake.
Shaping up to be a good one, let's hope it's a banger
+5 for Zhou.
Peak Ferrari, not swapping the cars.
I was so confused. It didn’t make any sense to keep Sainz behind Leclerc at that moment. It was their obligatory fuckup, I think
Can Lewis get past the McLarens?
It would take a safety car I think
Russell: my tires are dead, I need to pit.
2 laps later: makes up 1.8 sec gap and passes Sainz.
Angry Checo is back
LET'S GO LANDO!
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Have AT changed their side mirrors? They look so different than every other car
What happened to the Alpines?
This is sweet, decent upgrade from Damian Lewis
I dunno about 25 laps on the meds for the McLarens. That'll be slow at the end
Let's see! Russell managed 28 on his mediums and they will have less fuel now.
Anyone watching the Sky kids broadcast?
Xavier and Leclerc with another great back and forth... Poor Sharl
Go go go!
That Mercedes really came alive toward the end eh?
Ferrari strategy absolutely shambolic. Nothing new I guess
Zhou DotD
Zhou hit him
I don’t think that’s a fair characterization. He was boxed in on at least three sides (not sure about his right). Nowhere to go, then Zhou lost downforce and hit from behind.
I thought it was Yuki
What a horrible race