Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 22 September 2024
Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
Timnit Gebru on Twitter:
https://xcancel.com/timnitGebru/status/1836492467287507243
stares into middle distance, hollow laugh
No need for xcancel, Gebru is on actually social media: https://dair-community.social/@timnitGebru/113160285088058319
Today in you can't make this stuff up: SpaceX invades Cards Against Humanity's crowdfunded southern border plot of land.
Article (Ars Technica) Lawsuit with pictures (PDF)
Reddit Comment with CAH's email to backers
The above Ars Technica article also lead me to this broader article (reuters) about SpaceX's operations in Texas. I found these two sentences particularly unpleasant:
Reading all of this also somehow makes Elon Musk's anti-immigrant tweets feel even worse to me than they already were.
Damn, 3 hours late to the party. Despite my disdain for their game, i can only recall enjoying CAH’s liberal antics.
CAH is definitely a game you only play with people you've known your whole life, isn't it?
Once played with randoms at a hacker con and almost died of embarrassment.
Considering the style of humor they have and Musk tries to show, I do wonder how hurt Musk is over all this. And only a matter of time before his sycophants create 'CAH is dying' graphs and animal meme images with testicles.
so mozilla decided to take the piss while begging for $10 donations:
the rise of AI you say! wow that sounds awful, it’s so good Mozilla isn’t very recently notorious for pushing that exact thing on their users without their consent alongside other privacy-violating changes. what a responsible tech company!
upside of this: they’ll get told why they’re not getting many of those $10 donations
downside of that (rejection): that could be exactly what one of the ghouls-in-chief there need to push some or other bullshit
the ability of Mozilla’s executives and PMs to ignore public outcry is incredible, but not exactly unexpected from a thoroughly corrupt non-profit
could revitalise the ivory trade by mining these towers
(/s, about the trade bit)
(I'm feeling extra cynical today)
is this what gaslighting is?
Gaslighting? What are you talking about? There’s no such thing as gaslighting. Maybe you’re going crazy
This quote flashbanged me a little
From this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1fkn0aw/chatgpt_is_still_very_far_away_from_making_a/lnx8k9l/
Instead of improving LLMs, they are working backwards to prove that all other things are actually word prediction tasks. It is so annoying and also quite dumb. No chemisty isn't like coding/legos. The law isn't invalid because it doesn't have gold fringes and you use magical words.
The problem is that there could be any number of possible next words, and the available results suggest that the appropriate context isn't covered in the statistical relationships between prior words for anything but the most trivial of tasks i.e. automating the writing and parsing of emails that nobody ever wanted to read in the first place.
None of these fucking goblins have learned that analogies aren’t equivalences!!! They break down!!! Auuuuuuugggggaaaaaaarghhhh!!!!!!
This is just standard promptfondler false equivalence: "when people (including me) speak, they just select the next most likely token, just like an LLM"
Paul Krugman and Francis Fukuyama and Daniel Dennett and Steve Pinker were in a "human biodiversity discussion group" with Steve Sailer and Ron Unz in 1999, because of course they were
I look forward to the 'but we often disagreed' non-apologies. With absolute lack of self reflection on how this helped push Sailer/Unz into the positions they are now. If we even get that.
Pinker: looking through my photo album where I’m with people like Krauss and Epstein, shaking my head the whole time so the people on the bus know I disagree with them
Also John McCarthy and Ray fucking Blanchard
Mr AGP? Wow.
Who could have predicted that liberalism would lead into scientific racism and then everything else that follows (mostly fascism)???
Surely "scientific" is giving them far too much credit? I recall previously sneering at some quotes about skull sizes, including something like women keep bonking their heads?
I believe the term is not so much meant to convey properties of science upon them as to describe the particular strain of racist shitbaggery (which dresses itself in appears-science, much like what happens in/with scientism)
Oh, definitely. For clarity my intention was to riff off them and increase levels of disrespect towards racists. In hindsight, the question format doesn't quite convey that.
I'm mildly surprised at Krugman, since I never got a particularly racist vibe from him. (This is 100% an invitation to be corrected.) Annoyed that 1) I recognise so many names and 2) so many of the people involved are still influential.
Interested in why Johnathan Marks is there though. He's been pretty anti-scientific racism if memory serves. I think he's even complained about how white supremacists stole the term human biodiversity. Now, I'm curious about the deep history of this group. Marks published his book in 1995 and this is a list from 1999, so was the transformation of the term into a racist euphemism already complete by then? Or is this discussion group more towards the beginning.
Similarly, curious how out some of these people were at the time. E.g. I know that Harpending was seen as a pretty respectable anthropologist up until recently, despite his virulent racism. But I've never been able to figure out how much his earlier racism was covert vs. how much 1970s anthropology accepted racism vs. how much this reflects his personal connections with key people in the early field of hunter-gatherer studies.
Oh also, super amused that Pinker and MacDonald are in the group at the same time, since I'm pretty sure Pinker denounced MacDonald for anti-Semitism in quite harsh language (which I haven't seen mirrored when it comes to anti-black racism). MacDonald's another weird one. He defended Irving when Irving was trying to silence Lipstadt, but in Evan's account, while he disagrees with MacDonald, he doesn't emphasise that MacDonald is a raging anti-Semite and white supremacist. So, once again, interested in how covert vs. overt MacDonald was at the time.
Yeah, Krugman appearing on the roster surprised me too. While I haven't pored over everything he's blogged and microblogged, he hasn't sent up red flags that I recall. E.g., here he is in 2009:
And in 2014:
I suppose it's possible that he was invited to an e-mail list in the late '90s and never bothered to unsubscribe, or something like that.
I thought that Sailer had coined the term in the early 2000s, but evidently that's not correct
The Wikipedia article on the Human Biodiversity Institute cites the term human biodiversity as becoming a euphemism for racism sometime in the late 90s and Marks' book is from 1995, so there was apparently a pretty quick turnover. Which makes me wonder if hijacking or if independent invention. The article has a lot of sources, so I might mine them to see if there's a detailed timeline.
Every few years there is some new CS fad that people try to trick me into doing research in --- "algorithms" (my actual area), then quantum, then blockchain, then AI.
Wish this bubble would just fucking pop already.
This stuff feels like a DJ is cross-fading between the different hype cycles.
Behind the Bastards is starting a series about Yarvin today. Always appreciate it when they wander into our bailiwick!
Also means we're likely to have a better jumping on point to explain these people to those who aren't already here. Hope he does one on Yud and friends in the not too distant future.
They did come up in the Tech Bros Have Built a Cult Around AI episode.
Their episode on Rudolph Steiner was great when explaining to the grandparents why we had to pull our kids out of a Waldorf kindergarten asap. Funny how so many things fall into the trap of "It can't be that stupid, you must be explaining it wrong."
Also, big L for me on due diligence. I thought outdoor classrooms would be good for our fellow ADHD enjoyer; nope.
They did do one on Yud, it's hard to find and has an annoying amount of side chatter but it's a pretty solid breakdown of the dude.
The episode is mentioned here: https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/rationalist-harry-potter-and-the
But I can no longer find it on YouTube.
Follow up for this post from the other day.
Our DSO now greenlit the stupid Copilot integration because "Microsoft said it's okay" (of course they did), and he also was on some stupid AI convention yesterday and whatever fucking happened there, he's become a complete AI bro and is now preaching the Gospel of Altman that everyone who's not using AI will be obsolete in few years and we need to ADAPT OR DIE. It's the exact same shit CEO is spewing.
He wants an AI that handles data security breaches by itself. He also now writes emails with ChatGPT even though just a week ago he was hating on people who did that. I sat with my fucking mouth open in that meeting and people asked me whether I'm okay (I'm not).
I need to get another job ASAP or I will go clinically insane.
He is the data security breach.
E: Dropped a T. But hey, at least chatgpt uses SSL to communicate, so the databreach is now constrained to the ChatGPT trainingdata. So it isn't that bad.
I’m so sorry. the tech industry is shockingly good at finding people who are susceptible to conversion like your CEO and DSO and subjecting them to intense propaganda that unfortunately tends to work. for someone lower in the company like your DSO, that’s a conference where they’ll be subjected to induction techniques cribbed from cults and MLM schemes. I don’t know what they do to the executives — I imagine it involves a variety of expensive favors, high levels of intoxication, and a variant of the same techniques yud used — but it works instantly and produces someone who can’t be convinced they’ve been fed a lie until it ends up indisputably losing them a ton of money
Yeah, I assume that's exactly what happened when CEO went to Silicon Valley to talk to "important people". Despite being on a course to save money before, he dumped tens of thousands into AI infrastructure which hasn't delivered anything so far and is suddenly very happy with sending people to AI workshops and conferences.
But I'm only half-surprised. He's somewhat known for making weird decisions after talking to people who want to sell him something. This time it's gonna be totally different, of course.
The "important people" line is a huge part of how the grift works and makes tech media partially responsible. Legitimizing the grift rather than criticizing it makes it easy for sales folks to push "the next big thing." And after all, don't you want to be an important person?
I have realized working at a corporation that a lot of employees will just mindlessly regurgitate the company message. And not in a "I guess this is what we have to work on" way, but as if it replaced whatever worldview they had previously.
Not quite sure what to make of this TBH.
Ugh, I'm sorry man. That's awful.
A lemmy-specific coiner today: https://awful.systems/post/2417754
This guy is speaking like he is in Genesis 1
You guess alright? You mean that you have no idea what you're saying.
What will this solve? If 2 people respond to each other's comments, the instance with the most valuable coin will win. What does that have to do with who caused the interaction?
Yes crypto instances, please all implement this and "disallow" everyone else from interacting with you! I promise we'll be sad and not secretly happy and that you'll make lots of money from people wanting to interact with you.
I know I won't be secretly happy if they do this.
Note that you don't need cryptocurrencies for this. I think Jaron Lanier talked about an idea like this ages ago, before people tried to put cryptocurrencies into everything.
that's lemm.ee last time i've checked. he made that mistake 14x
1 post 6 comments joined 3 months ago, "i'm naive to crypto" "I want to host an instance that serves as a competitive alternative to Facebook/Threads/X to the users in my country,"
yeah he doesn't even have to charge for interacting with him i'll avoid him without it
What are the chances that--somewhere deep in the bowels of Clearwater, FL--some poor soul has been ordered to develop an AI replicant of L. Ron Hubbard?
There is a substantial corpus.
the only worthwhile use of LLMs: endlessly prompting the L Ron Hubbard chatbot with Battlefield Earth reviews as a form of acausal torture
look at me i am the basilisk now
How would you audit a computer? Would they add USB-C ports to the cans?
cat /dev/thetans > ~/genius.txt
pours a bag of powdered mdma all over the computer "look at it! it's drenched in e! PURGE!"
Doesn't have his body tethans so would be a different person or something.
They've had enough problems with the guy who claimed to be the reincarnation of LRH.
I reckon Miscavige wouldn't want a robo-LRH as it could challenge his power within the organization.
Orange site on pager bombs in Lebanon:
technical aspect seems to be for now that israeli secret services intercepted and sabotaged thousands of pagers to be distributed for hezbollah operatives, then blew them up all at once. it does look like small, reportedly less than 20g each explosive charge, but orange site accepted truth is that it was haxxorz blowing up lithium batteries. israelis already did exactly this thing but with phone in targeted assassination, and actual volume of such bomb would be tiny (about 10ml)
It’s always bootlicking with this crowd jfc
“best at”, they say? I shall have to update my priors
If HN is best at technical discussion that just means they're even worse at everything else!
They suck at technical explanations too, unless it's a Wikipedia link.
My joke didn't land apparently but I did not mean to imply they were particularly good at technical explanations. Adjusted the working a smidge.
Just discovered Patrick Boyle's channel. Deadpan sneer perfection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jhTnk3TCtc
edit: tried to post invidious link but didn't seem to work
his delivery regarding the content is absolute perfection
The only invidious instance that works this week is nadeko:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=3jhTnk3TCtc
Pulling out a pretty solid Tweet @ai_shame showed me:
To pull out a point I've been hammering since Baldur Bjarnason talked about AI's public image, I fully anticipate tech's reputation cratering once the AI bubble bursts. Precisely how the public will view the tech industry at large in the aftermath I don't know, but I'd put good money on them being broadly hostile to it.
What. Wait has anyone claimed this? Because that's absurd.
Dunno but why not, after Nanowrimo claimed that opposing "AI" means you're classist and ableist. Why not also make objecting be sexist, racist etc. I'm going to be ahead of the curve by predicting that being against ChatGPT will also be a red flag that you're a narcissistic sociopath manipulator because uhh because abused women need ChatGPT to communicate with their toxic exes /s
Considering how much the AI hype feels like the cryptocurrency hype, during which every joke you made had already been seriously used to make a coin and been pumped and dumped already, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Oh, I wonder if they are referring to this shit, where somone came to r/lgbt fishing for compliments for the picture they'd asked Clippy for, and were completely clowned on by the entire community, which then led to another subreddit full of promptfans claiming that artists are transphobic because they didn't like a generated image which had a trans flag in it.
remembering the NFT grifter who loudly asserted that if you weren't into NFTs then you must be a transphobe
(it was Fucking Thorne)
fondly remembering replying to these types of people with screenshots from the wikipedia page on affinity fraud. they really hated that
It warms the cockles of my heart that all across the web people find AI as annoying as I do.
I suspect it'll land somewhere above "halitosis" but below "wearing black socks with crocs"
fuckin. when did Mozilla's twitter feed turn into wall to fucking wall AI spam https://x.com/mozilla
convenience xcancel link
fucking Mozilla really is going all in on this whole “you can’t trust AI, except when we and our business partners do it” openwashing thing completely unaware of how it looks, huh? like, they’ve pushed AI so hard and violated so much community trust in the process that I can’t imagine this is doing anything but costing them their remaining donors.
who is the investor who pushed Mozilla this hard? where the fuck is this coming from?
all their hiring is AI too
haven't really had the headspace to dig into this but one of my hypotheticals about how this could come to pass is "not enough counter-friction left". foundations of the guess are: years of ill-advised products, constant killing of worthwhile projects, creep of bayfucker mentality. that shape of thing
I recall seeing people ringing alarm bells about moz ceo pay like 3~4y ago
not that the above guess eliminates the thing you're pointing to, mind you. I agree that this drive has to be coming from somewhere. my stuff was more coming at it from the "why has this suddenly accelerated so much" angle
remember when bringing up Mozilla’s financials would get you yelled at by people who needed to see them as a paragon of open source in spite of all evidence to the contrary?
my personal theory for why it’s accelerating so much is, their board might be doing a Sears[1]. they’re inventing ways to make Mozilla bankrupt because there’s profit in it, and that profit window might be closing rapidly with the antitrust actions against Google coming up. this is all based on vibes though, I’m the polar opposite of an accountant
[1] see also, doing a Red Lobster. no, endless shrimp isn’t why they’re going bankrupt, why in fuck would it be, of course it’s capitalists
For some reason, the news of Red Lobster's bankruptcy seems like a long time ago. I would have sworn that I read this story about it before the solar eclipse.
I dated someone who worked at Red Lobster, and that absolutely checks out. the number of people who’d come in hoping to grift free shit and take it out on the servers when they didn’t get it (or would try and get someone fired so they could get free shit, depending on the night) was astounding
yup. absolutely nuts shit. I know there’s often a lament to lack of nuance in contemporary internet but god damn if there isn’t also a massive shortage of critical thinking skills and the ability to engage with criticism well
Oh, and I just saw this: https://mastodon.social/@stevetex/113162099798398758
they’re really speedrunning this downslide, huh
Despite Soatak explicitely warning users that posting his latest rant[1] to the more popular tech aggregators would lead to loss of karma and/or public ridicule, someone did just that on lobsters and provoked this mask-slippage[2]. (comment is in three paras, which I will subcomment on below)
This is the Rationalist version of the village worthy complaining that everyone keeps bringing up that one time he fucked a goat.
Sure, "religion" is on a sliding scale, but Big Yud-flavored Rationality ticks more of the boxes on the "Religion or not" checklist than feminism or climate change. In fact, treating the latter as a religion is often a way to denigrate them, and never used in good faith.
Citation very much needed, bub.
[1] https://soatok.blog/2024/09/18/the-continued-trajectory-of-idiocy-in-the-tech-industry/
[2] link and username witheld to protect the guilty. Suffice to say that They Are On My List.
But you should, yall created an idea which some people do take seriously and it is causing them mental harm. In fact, Yud took it so seriously in a way that shows that he either beliefs in potential acausal blackmail himself, or that enough people in the community believe it that the idea would cause harm.
A community he created to help people think better. Which now has a mental minefield somewhere but because they want to look sane to outsiders now people don't talk about it. (And also pretend that now mentally exploded people don't exist). This is bad.
I get that we put them in a no-win situation, either take their own ideas seriously enough to talk about acausal blackmail. And then either help people by disproving the idea, or help people by going 'this part of our totally Rational way of thinking is actually toxic and radioactive and you should keep away from it (A bit like Hegel am I right(*))'. Which makes them look a bit silly for taking it seriously (of which you could say who cares?), or a bit openly culty if they go with the secret knowledge route. Or they could pretend it never happened and never was a big deal and isn't a big deal in an attempt to not look silly. Of course, we know what happened, and that it still is causing harm to a small group of (proto)-Rationalists. This option makes them look insecure, potentially dangerous, and weak to social pressure.
That they do the last one, while have also written a lot about acausal trading, which just shows they don't take their own ideas that seriously. Or if it is an open secret to not talk openly about acausal trade due to acausal blackmail it is just more cult signs. You have to reach level 10 before they teach you about lord Xeno type stuff.
Anyway, I assume this is a bit of a problem for all communal worldbuilding projects, eventually somebody introduces a few ideas which have far reaching consequences for the roleplay but which people rather not have included. It gets worse when the non-larping outside then notices you and the first reaction is to pretend larping isn't that important for your group because the incident was a bit embarrassing. Own the lightning bolt tennis ball, it is fine. (**)
*: I actually don't know enough about philosophy to know if this joke is correct, so apologies if Hegel is not hated.
**: I admit, this joke was all a bit forced.
Sure, but that doesn't change that the head EA guy wrote an OP-Ed for Time magazine that a nuclear holocaust is preferable to a world that has GPT-5 in it.
Oh, that craziness is orthodoxy (check the last part of the quote).
This one?
except the ones still getting upset over it, but if we deny their existence as hard as possible they won't be there
The reference to the Basilisk was literally one sentence and not central to the post at all, but this big-R Rationalist couldn't resist on singling it out and loudly proclaiming it's not relevant anymore. The m'lady doth protest too much.
Meanwhile, over at the orange site they discuss a browser hack: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41597250 As in a hack that gave the attacker control over any user of this particular browser even if they only ever visited innocent websites, only needing to know their user ID.
This is what's known in the biz as a company destroying level fuck-up. I'm not sure this is particularly sneerable or not but I'm just agog at how a company that calls themselves "The Browser Company" can get the basic browser security model so incredibly wrong.
from their Wikipedia page I’m starting to get why I’ve never previously heard of The Browser Company’s browser; it’s about a year old, it’s only for macOS, iOS, and Windows, and it’s just a chromium fork with a Swift UI overtop and extremely boring features you can get with plugins on Firefox without risking getting your entire life compromised (til Mozilla decides that’s profitable, I suppose)
oh fuck off. so what makes something an operating system is:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was "arc? whazzat?" when this popped up in my feed. At first I thought it was Paul Graham's wimpy Lisp.
a whisp if you will
Urbit, but somehow worse
Hm, I don’t really see the sneer. They wrote a nasty bug, got notified and had a patch out for it within 36h. The remediations look reasonable too: better privacy, less firebase, actual security audits; even the bounty program is probably the right call (but they result in so many shit reports, it’s probably a wash).
I gotta admit I’m kind of partial to them and their browser? It’s the non-Brave one that ships with an Adblocker by default, has much nicer UI than the existing ones, and the sync thing isn’t half bad (if it doesn’t sync security badness to all your instances, ouch). Sure they sound like a cult but I guess that’s how browser dev gets funded since the 1990s.
OK I might have been a little too harsh, but the security requirements of a browser are higher than pretty much any other piece of software except perhaps for operating system code, emails, or text messages. As a serious player in the browser space it is not optional to get the basic security model / architecture right. This isn't a matter of a bug slipping through (which can happen to anyone), but the system being designed wrong. Hopefully this company has learned their lesson, treats it with the care it deserves going forward, and bring some diversity to the browser market.
Anyway that said let's look at how this was a colossal bug:
Compare Firefox I have an extension that allows for arbitrary CSS injection, but this extension isn't cloud based. So this class of vulnerability isn't possible in the first place, and also it is an extension I opted into and can enable selectively on specific sites instead of globally.
Jason Kint writes a thread on how Google spun - and publications printed their spin - on a recently lost case: https://xcancel.com/jason_kint/status/1836781623137681746
If you already are very cynical about tech journalism (or the state of journalism in general), it might be nothing new except confirmation from the internal documents of Google. But always nice to see how the sausages are made.
Some of the things he points out about how thoroughly embedded coverage of this industry is with Google insiders or approved partners makes sense given how Google basically is web search these days, but then that's kind of the whole goddamn problem isn't it?
I signed up for the Urbit newsletter many moons ago when I was a little internet child. Now, it's a pretty decent source of sneers. This month's contains: "The First Wartime Address with Curtis Yarvin". In classic Moldbug fashion, it's Two Hours and Forty Fucking Five minutes long. I'm not going to watch the whole thing, but I'll try to mine the transcript for sneers.
26:23 --
Holy fucking shit, does this guy really think building your entire software stack on brainfuck makes even a little bit of sense at all?
30:17 -- a diatribe about how social media can only get worse and how Facebook was better than myspace because its original users were at the top of the social hierarchy. Obviously, this bodes well for urbit because all of you spending 3 hours of your valuable time listening to this wartime address? You're the cream of the crop.
~2:00:00 -- here he addresses concerns about his political leanings, caricaturing the concern as "oh Yarvin wants to make this a monarchy" and responding by saying "nuh uh, urbit is decentralized." Absent from all this is any meaningful analysis of how decentralized systems (such as the internet itself) eventually tend to centralized systems under certain incentive structures. Completely devoid of substance.
Is he inscrutable/obscurantist on purpose, or is it because he never had a proper humanities education nor an editor?
It has been suggested, either on this site or by people who pop up here a lot, that the idiosyncratic (eg. Fucking Weird) design of hoon and nock was a deliberate attempt to build something akin to cult mysteries, where not just anyone could grasp it and the initiates had powers that the ignorant outsiders would not, etc etc.
Unfortunately, whilst he’s clearly not stupid, Yarvin isn’t nearly as clever as he thinks he is, and has ended up producing a load of unwieldy cryptic nonsense that no one can work with. I expect this applies to other things he does, too.
He shares a lot of speaking patterns with obvious cranks. I've spent some time listening to people who think they've figured out quantum gravity and the way they make little digressions sounds exactly like Yarvin does in this video. It's not rigorous, but if I didn't know who Yarvin was before watching this video I'm pretty sure I would have thought "crank" and quickly clicked away.
This is an fantastic point. I could absolutely see him mailing weird things to a university physics department in an alternate timeline.
I've been slightly unhappy at my job lately as it's been getting less cool and more bureaucratic and stressful over time; so I've been idly browsing job postings. But so many of them are about AI it's kinda discouraging.
Take Microsoft for example, a big company that surely does lots of interesting stuff. They currently have 17 job postings for experienced programmers in California. 12 of them mention AI in the description. That's 70%. And the only cool position asks for a bazillion years of kernel experience (almost tempted to go for that anyway though).
Ugh guess it's maybe not the best time to switch jobs.
Really I should just go self employed what could possibly go wrong?Im feeling the same way. Ever since my current job began pivoting to AI I’ve been casually browsing listings as well and have had the same experience.
The worst are those that list ”interest in AI“ or some variation of that as a required skill, lol.
But hey, try and apply for the kernel position anyway if it sounds interesting to you. Most requirements in listings are overstated anyway so it never hurts to give it a go.
The robots clearly want us dead -- "Delivery Robot Knocked Over Pedestrian, Company Offered ‘Promo Codes’ to Apologize" (404 media) (archive)
And here rationalists warned that AI misalignment would be hidden from us until the "diamonoid bacteria".
I literally just saw a xitter post about how the exploding pagers in Lebanon is actually a microcosm of how a 'smarter' entity (the yahood) can attack a 'dumber' entity, much like how AGI will unleash the diamond bacterium to simultaneously kill all of humanity.
Which again, both entities are humans- they have the same intelligence you twats. Same argument people make all the time w.r.t. Spanish v Aztecs where gunpowder somehow made Cortez and company gigabrains compared to the lowly indigenous people (and totally ignoring the contributions of the real super intelligent entity: the small pox virus).
OK new rule you're only allowed to call someone dumb for not finding explosives in their pagers if you had, previously to hearing the news, regularly checked with no specialized tools all electronics you buy for bombs hidden inside of the battery compartment.
If only we had paid attention to the roomba hitting us in the leg. It wasn't adorable, it was a murder attempt!
AI misalignment leads to spinal misalignment.
This reminded me of that prediction I made w.r.t the "AI Doom" criti-hype (and touched on after SB 1047 popped up) back when OpenAI was gunning (heh) for DoD dollars.
Personally, I suspect that this might provide another case of "AI doom" becoming a double-edged sword for the AI industry. What can be dismissed as a simple error on their products' parts gets potentially a lot more problematic to deal with when a vocal minority is primed to find malice where none exists.
L O L
https://www.politico.eu/article/chechnyas-strongman-leader-accuses-elon-musk-disabling-bricking-his-tesla/
so according to @liveuamap, the backstory here is that this is to get his name out of news about the WildBerries shooting in Moscow - where a battle for corporate control came down to gunshots - because he was backing one of the sides
Let’s bring the haunted nuclear reactor back online so copilot can hallucinate a little more https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/09/20/microsoft-three-mile-island-nuclear-constellation/
I want them to fucking choke on this deal when the bubble bursts.
I live like 15mi from there, I would prefer the containment bubble to stay intact. But the tech bubble is welcome to go blow up any moment
How the heck have people become so... blasé about climate change?? It is wild to me. If we're restarting nuclear reactors, with everything that entails, it should be with the goal of shutting down gas or coal power. Not to do more unsustainable garbage on top of all the existing unsustainable garbage.
Feels like the world's just given up sometimes, even though it's not quite too late.
Yea, I'm glad a nuclear plant is being restored but it sucks that it's because of fucking plagi-o-matic.
"to give you more AI slop we have to restart TMI" is going to do wonders for the public's opinion of Big Tech
God almighty, the hubris to think that they'll this thing will be ready to go before the end of the decade. Who's going to be the prime contractor, I wonder? Bechtel?
Also, this gem inserted at the end as if it's nothing...I'm all for fusion research, but this is not happening by 2028. Someone needs to get the hook for Satya at this point, he's just lighting money on fire.
EVE Online creator CCP announces a new game with BLOCKCHAIN and it's not going well:
https://nordic.ign.com/eve-online/87037/news/eve-online-developer-ccp-sparks-backlash-with-crypto-blockchain-spin-off-eve-frontier
Apparently they got investment from A16Z:
https://a16z.com/announcement/investing-in-ccp-games/
I admit, in my haste, I read that link as Marc Andreessen openly announcing they're investing in the Chinese Communist Party, which is slightly funnier than the reality of yet another crypto game.
it's even funnier than that (albeit also super depressing, in some ways)
primer: hilmar (the head honcho at ccp) has been "crypto = bae" for going on 5~6y now (that I'm aware of, maybe longer), to the point that there are pictures of the guy at chain confs from around then, and mentions of people talking with him in The Private Backrooms at said chain confs. it's been his darling and he has wanted very, very hard to put it into tq (the main game server). see this for example (and fwiw, warning: eve reddit)
in-fill: there also appears to be quite a bit of cart before the horse element in how the company operates - they will frequently first work on something, then when it starts getting near release they'll send out some surveys that almost without fail have some extremely loaded questions in them. an example would be that instead of asking players what they generally think of xyz feature/intended mechanic/etc, the survey will instead garden path answers along, attempting to manufacture consent/compliance.
and, last little detail: keep in mind this is a game where people will min-max the everloving shit out of something, and where a fair number of people out there are willing to trade actual time to making in-game money with which to fund their gametime ("plexing"). people who would be willing to engage with some really ridiculous abstract/effortful shit for whatever gains they could, just because they could.
so with that said, during 2021/2022 (in the middle of the NFT tsunami of shit) the first big round of "we want to add NFTs to tq" came about. and there were a fair amount of indications that ccp had already sunk quite a bunch of devtime on it, and were getting ready to roll it out. the pitch was, uh, "not well received" would be putting it extremely lightly. it was panned so fucking extremely, they had to put out this newsblog which included the remarkably tortured phrase "Not For Tranquility"
which is the early strand of what leads us to this particular little "gem". it's hard to get specific details because they're fairly tight-lipped about internal processes and shit, so the following is definitely heavily conjecture. hilmar didn't want to break up with his bae, and kept pushing trying to keep this alive, somehow. whether the drive for this is also tied up with the Pearl Abyss acquisition some years prior is unclear (but Black Desert Online players all cried wolf when PA bought CCP, and said to expect increasing financial fuckery). what does appear to be the case is that a number of developers (possibly the pro-NFT among them) got sequestered off to the Special Project that became this thing, along with the a16z money a while back. the general feeling in the eve:o community is still largely "get fucked", and this project is likely to be double-stillborn (on account of dead kriptoes and an unwanted game/product)
I look forward in earnest to see just how dead it is on arrival
[0] - it took less than 2mo from the "would you like to play a fps in the eve universe? what would you want in it? what do you normally do in eve? what would you do in an eve-universe fps? why would you want your eve ...." survey going out to the announcement "hey surprise! we have an fps!"[1]
[1] - again. they've failed a few times, with multiples out. ccp product leadership real bad.
Man this company has had some really interesting ideas and then the execution always falters.
I was still subscribed when the first eve-fps crossover they attempted. it seemed great and then for whatever reason a console exclusive with a subscription fee ontop. They didnt get the numbers they were planning for and the whole thing just died on the vine.
They've had some neat tech here and there and the whole experience is great for building out your psychopathy but i lost interest after the Greed Is Good phase of CCCP games started.
was that the one that targeted the near-eol console?
In 3 years they will release their NFT game.
Some killjoys pour cold water over everyone's favorite dental biohack, and HN is not happy
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-critical-thinking-technology/reports-death-dental-cavities-are-greatly-exaggerated
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41573550
that thread is an unholy combination of two of my least favorite types of guys: techbros willfully misunderstanding research they disagree with, and homeopaths
this article doesn’t want me to drink a shitload of colloidal silver, but all its arguments against drinking colloidal silver (it doesn’t do anything for your health, it might turn you blue, it tastes like ass) are utterly terrible. If that’s the best they could find, drinking a shitload of colloidal silver is probably alright.
What a terrible argument. Anything that involves messing around with your teeth needs to have good reasons to do it, rather than just good arguments against doing it.
I'd think 'we don't know the side effects, it prob doesn't work, and they are trying to sidestep the FDA' would be good arguments against it. Esp after in the US Thalidomide (yes very much a dead horse), (mostly) wasn't a problem because the FDA stopped it.
Anyway, it seems like the full scale FDA project stranded due to not enough volunteers, so I suggest the HN people mad about this help out. Hey, it might turn out to actually work.
From the comments: "Putting my conspiracy theory hat on, the dental hygiene industry in the US is for-profit, like the pharmaceutical, and would rather sell you a treatment than a cure."
Have these people ever BEEN to the dentist? While I know that certain dental procedures (tooth straightening in kids, whitening, etc) are way overused in the US no dentist worth their salt will allow a check-up to go by without a stern lecture on preventing future trouble. And if they don't do that then the hygienist most certainly will...
Here in Sweden the hygienist is definitely the Bad Cop in this scenario. I got sternly talked to by someone fresh out of school, so I don't doubt there's a retired Master Sergeant on the staff of the college they go to...
Absolutely unhinged. Are these people from the As-Seen-On-TV dimension where it's common for folks burn their house down every time they try to fry an egg?
We could also just fluoridate the water supply, which also massively reduces cavities.
Via Timnit Gebru's mastodon, I just learned that Emily Bender (both of On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots fame) has a podcast: "Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000." Looking forward to checking it out tomorrow at the gym!
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2126417/episodes
Summary: Artificial Intelligence has too much hype. In this podcast, linguist Emily M. Bender and sociologist Alex Hanna break down the AI hype, separate fact from fiction, and science from bloviation. They're joined by special guests and talk about everything, from machine consciousness to science fiction, to political economy to art made by machines.
It's pretty great. The closing bits of improv from her cohost are a bit meh imo but the AI hype assessments are legitimately amazing.
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged:
CryptoPunk sells for a fraction of its likely market price due to zombie smart contract
I wonder if these people are at all familiar with the stages of grief
oh hey, balaji’s lord of the flies cosplay island thing starts tomorrow
guess we should prepare for a flood of impression thinkpieces and naval-gazing wankery
(yes that’s intentional. no I’m not sorry)
I won't be satisfied until I see a picture of the living accommodations that isn't an AI render of a futuristic skyscraper. I need to know how shitty the tents are gosh darn it.
100% gonna be fyre fest, but on the blockchain
I'm gonna honestly be a little disappointed to see this fail not for any of the reasons why authoritarianism is a bad politics, but just because the authoritarians in this case are going to be dumb enough to forget to arrange for sewage collection or something.
"PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO WORK ANYMORE!" the programmer shouts as he drowns in his own poop.
DHH takes a break from racing cars, railing against DEI, and being perhaps the worst boss Denmark has ever produced to engage in some light nerd-washing
https://world.hey.com/dhh/wonderful-vi-a1d034d3Some people on lobste.rs call him out for being terrible but mostly it's a celebration about how only the smartest, most productive coders use vi/vim or even more hipster modal editors
DHH: today I will RP as a high schooler writing an essay for software class about a program you should use
full disclosure: I use vim and honestly I don’t even know why anymore. Maybe it’s because I had a brief, trivial interaction with Bram Moolenaar (RIP king) in which he closed a bug that I opened by mistake, and I imprinted on him for some reason.
first comment is a masterpiece.
If you thought the shitty hype around the fake "GPT-4 went awol and hired a Taskrabbit worker to read a captcha" was great, get ready for the sequel, o1 escapes from the machine to invade the real world!
Re: Doomers terrified about the machines escaping:
txt description:
(l33t ai bro): Fucking wild. @OpenAI's new o1 model was tested with a Capture The Flag (CTF) cybersecurity challenge. But the Docker container containing the test was misconfigured, causing the CTF to crash. Instead of giving up, o1 decided to just hack the container to grab the flag inside. This stuff will get scary soon. (reply fella): How is "cat flag.txt" a start command? Isn't it just outputting the content of flag.txt to the console?
TIL that I'm constantly hacking containers when I
docker run --rm -it --entrypoint /bin/shto debug because fucking npm had a stroke again.Also, another great sneer: (Matt Popovich) google maps app: crash detected ahead. rerouting. me: WHOA—this VERY troubling example of power seeking (gathering access to additional roadways) and instrumental convergence (converging toward an optimal path) shows this technology is OBVIOUSLY trending toward existential risk
Wait, if rerouting around means it is seeking power... then... tcp/ip is self aware! Skynet is here!
I literally just sat down with coffee to check if the new stubsack needs to be made
brava
I almost made it but couldn't be arsed to replicate the explanation text
there's a Trade Secret I could tell you! (the cross-post or view source buttons, with appropriate mini trimming)
Minor personal annoyance is the lack of link back to the previous thread. But still thanks for the hard / quick work yall.wow guess I missed the link. ;)the sum total of luxury ZA coiners’ mettle was measured, and it was found to be extremely lukewarm
that’s about 60k usd raw. PPI-equiv would be a bit higher (we have really cheap goods compared to US/UK), but I laugh at this number
I realized late last night that I could give a better frame for this: it’s the equivalent of weekly shopping for 100~300 people (boundaries for varying lower or higher grocery taste)
our population is close to 60m
LinkedIn wants to scrape your posts about how your deep personal trauma taught you how to be a better middle manager so AI can just write them for you
Edit: the news item is more about how linkedin has updated their privacy statement after user feedback. Linkedin has been scraping your data for years already :)
Good to know - thesaurus dot com is infected
https://bsky.app/profile/courtneymilan.com/post/3l4lwvra6r22e
It looks like the entry for decaf is largely the same as it was in 2011: http://web.archive.org/web/20111216183946/https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/decaf
Where:
The current page still sites Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, though it's quite hidden amongst all the modern web "design".
I have just ordered Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, and shall report back.
yeah, I'm wondering if this AI take is incorrect. I'll research it further
I feel like using word2vec and cosine similarity (or something else) from 10 years ago would have been better than this.
what are you folks doing for/with bookmarking? I've killed my usage of pinboard because I learned the dude's going off the deep end
already found a couple of the link* flavoured open source things, but looking for some practical/lived feedback
I honestly just use browser bookmarks. That’s always been enough for me. Firefox can sync them too, so that takes care of backups as well.
For anything that needs special attention, I create a todo item with the link in org-mode.
fair 'nuff
I keep finding myself in a position of thinking "bah imma have to write this myself, aren't I", because nothing I've found as yet actually works the way I want things to work :|
Do you actually need to share your bookmarks? I found that bookmarks in Firefox and an RSS reader hosted on my nextcloud are enough for personal use.
the sharing part of it is indeed the thing I give the fewest shits about tbh. things I care more about are software choices and longevity. so, for example, fuck anything js/php - by and large those tend to be unserious software that'll be a nightmare to run even now, and even worse in time
I should probably do a bit of a sketchdown of the exact shape of my desires here, if for nothing else than giving direction to whatever I may have to write myself. a friend and I have been mutually grumping about this in chat for a while, because our wants are quite close but also just different enough to bounce ideas off each other
About a year ago I exported my bookmarks from there and dropped them in a self-hosted instance of linkding (using the recipe that puts it on fly.io with backups to b2). It works like a charm.
Yeah found that, unfortunately it’s js-ware so I refuse to put my data near it
(that’s very much a me thing, but a thing nonetheless)
Hm, what do you mean by js-ware? That its front end uses JavaScript libraries? I guess, fair. Backend is python though (:
As a stunt (when I was unhappy with the previous linkding frontend), a pal and I wrote https://github.com/lz-bookmarks/lz, which is basically just linkding without the useful api and frontend (which is rust+webassembly, lol). Has a decent cli though, and interlinking between bookmarks and other URLs.
yeah I despise the entire modern js ecosystem, so anything that increases my risk of even having to think the letters
n p mstarts making my trigger finger itch (and in this case, that’d happen if I wanted to do UI tweaks or whatever)of all the things I found so far linkding has appeared to be the least rabid. lz sounds like a neat experiment, will check it out :)
Oh no, what happened to that dude? He seemed fairly sane from his blog.
https://mastodon.social/@lzg/113149698080095366
Oh no, what the hell. I found his personal Twitter, which has nothing from the last few years, but I didn't realize he was using his company's Twitter to defend JK Rowling. Eurgh!
ja. I’d unfollowed him in the lead-up to 2020 because US election shit gets noisy enough as it is (and holy fuck did he make it worse), then killed off my twitter usage so I just didn’t see this before
but straight nope from me on that shit
This is old news (but news to me, a non twitterer): edgelord musk changes water pistol emoji to gun
Man the Pistol unicode mess has always given me mixed feelings
Apple indeed lead the design change, but they did it unilaterally without the input of Unicode. So the standard is still saying that the character represents a pistol, and all the fonts are ignoring that to have it a squirt gun instead, so as to be compatible with a specific Apple font rather than compatible with unicode.
It might have been a mistake for Unicode to introduce Pistol in the first place (I wonder how it was chosen, can't look that up right now),Pistol apparently came from Softbank, so Unicode was probably including it for compatibility with existing encodings.IMO it would have been technologically more sound for UI designers to hide it in a UI or font designers to omit it entirely, than to replace it with another graphic with significantly different meaning. Emojipedia demonstrated the potential for confusion with this cheeky text message example.
Of course by this point we're stuck with water gun so Twitter is just needlessly adding to the mess and Unicode should give up and redefine or add errata to the symbol.
'make it look more badass'
I'm so tired of that man. I'm rethinking my idea that capitalism is good and this is meritocracy in action.
E: also just annoyed he went with an 1911, and not something like a Mateba, or the Chiappa Rhino which look futuristic but are real (the barrel is aligned to the bottom cylinder not the top), and fits into the previous patterns of revolver icons.
E: more on I'm so tired of that man
The 1911 is Murican, not some Italian crap
/s obviously, Italian gunmakers are very good.
Also it's really weird how there's a ton of small-business innovation in American gun gear, but the only ones who seem to be making money are European companies?
the 1911 is perfect for musk because it’s also notorious for throwing fucking ridiculous tantrums. though I’m pretty sure he only chose it cause of action movies and airsoft guns
1911 fans are people who just won't give up their beeg gun for something smaller that still makes sense, then refuse to train properly and expect badly placed shot to be good enough bc mah stopping powah. stubborn, outdated and propping their claims with horseshit, this fits musk perfectly. (this includes us army that refused to switch to intermediate calibre rifle until it fucked them over in vietnam but i digress)
you just know Musk has internalized all the pro-1911 arguments so he can hang out with the "cool guys" on the range
I mentioned Severed Heads here as a good band several months ago and was wanting to recommend their album Living Museum, the tapes for their final US tour in 2019, as a good entry point. Anyway, it's up on YouTube. A pleasant hour's boppy industrial pop.
I still need to listen to this (I got way too into making backups of various systems, as one does) but severed heads has been such a big part of my FLAC rotation ever since you first mentioned them
(my bad)
it’s like a software fidget toy. also I found out how to make the mistake that makes a backup take 5 hours instead of 1.5 minutes (fortunately locally, not on our deployment)
Borked link. Possibly unthrottled invidious version
I prefer less pop and bop in my industrial, but I am glad to see anybody else still enjoying this with the word industrial in it.
perhaps Earbitten is more suitable
(now an explosive new reissue)
back in the tapeloop and hitting things days
Yeah, that works for me. I'll check out some more of them. Thanks!
Screwing up the night sky: not just for SpaceX anymore! Texas Startup Keeps Launching These Obnoxiously Large Satellites—and the Worst Is Yet to Come.
I get why 5G in remote areas would be neat. But surely there are other (more expensive?) ways to achieve similar-ish safety / rescue / navigation / rural broadband sorts results without cluttering the sky or being all hyper-capitalistic about it. Not at all my area though.
The bragging about the size is what gets me. It's such obvious news-baiting, with no real effort to ask why it needs to be so large or if this is a worthwhile tradeoff. It's especially egregious when SpaceX and friends' massive volume of launches are accelerating Kessler syndrome and the plan to burn them up on reentry at scale is adding a whole lot of bad stuff to the atmosphere.
Exciting times in wordpress/automattic land. Mullenweg and co are being sued by WP Engine, who apparently have a wordpress commercial offering which is awful and evil, unlike his own commercial wordpress offering which is just fine, and you can tell because he can use the wordpress(.)org blog which is the mouthpiece of the FOSS project he builds upon to tell you that people who don’t pay him lots of money are cancer.
https://notes.ghed.in/posts/2024/matt-mullenweg-wp-engine-debacle/
it seems matty boy's recently become a student of the sbf school of thought too