The illegal dissollution of the USSR was one of Humanity's greatest tragedies, and anyone who thinks the Russian Federation is an improvement needs to do some serious introspection.
::: spoiler From one of the comments
Countries listed by the first launches of artificial Earth satellites:
USSR - 1957
USA - 1958
UK - 1962
Canada - 1962
Italy - 1964
France - 1965
Australia - 1967
Europe - 1968
Germany - 1969
Japan - 1970
China - 1970
Poland - 1973
Netherlands - 1974
Spain - 1974
India - 1975
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Countries listed by the first launches of space satellites with their own launch vehicles:
USSR - October 4, 1957
USA - February 1, 1958
France - November 26, 1965
Italy - April 26, 1967
Japan - February 11, 1970
China - April 24, 1970
UK - October 28, 1971
European Union - December 24, 1979
India - 18 July 1980
Israel - September 19, 1988
Russia - January 21, 1992
Ukraine - August 31, 1995
Iran - February 2, 2009
DPRK - December 12, 2012
Republic of Korea - 30 January 2013
New Zealand - January 21, 2018
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Countries listed by the first flights of astronauts:
USSR - April 12, 1961
USA - May 5, 1961
Czechoslovakia - March 2, 1978
Poland - June 27, 1978
GDR - 26 August 1978
Bulgaria - April 10, 1979
Hungary - May 26, 1980
Vietnam - July 23, 1980
Cuba - September 18, 1980
Mongolia - March 22, 1981
Romania - May 14, 1981
France - June 24, 1982
FRG - November 28, 1983
India - April 3, 1984
Canada - October 5, 1984
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Countries listed by the number of first-of-its-kind spacecraft (remarkable, of historical significance, with achievements that were made for the first time by one of the countries) until 1992:
USSR - 21
USA - 15
EU - 1
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Countries listed by the number of spacecraft launched to explore the solar system, as well as first-of-its-kind or noteworthy vehicles launched into low Earth orbit before 1992:
USSR - 115
USA - 84
EU - 4
Japan - 4
Germany - 2
UK - 1
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Countries listed by the number of successful orbital launches (not including emergency and partially emergency) until 1992:
USSR - 2278
USA - 903
Japan - 42
France - 39
China - 27
EU - 13
Kenya* - 9
India - 3
Australia - 2
Israel - 2
Italian naval spaceport "San Marco" located off the coast of Kenya and used to launch American missiles "Scout".
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Countries listed by the lowest proportion of emergency orbital launches for countries with more than 10 launches before 1992:
USSR - 5.54%
EU - 7.14%
USA - 11.25%
Japan - 12.24%
France - 14.89%
China - 17.65%
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Countries listed by the lowest proportion of accidental and partially accidental orbital launches for countries with more than 10 launches before 1992:
USSR - 7.13%
EU - 7.14%
Japan - 14.29%
USA - 14.65%
France - 17.02%
China - 20.59%
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The number of dead astronauts:
when performing space flight: in the USSR - 4, in the USA - 14;
in preparation for space flight: the USSR - 1, the USA - 5.
Is this some contemporary soviet propaganda? I mean all the people who died for political reasons or because the state economy was mismanaged probably don't care much about these achievements.
(To borrow from Cowbee's comment a bit) Wealth inequality was far lower in the Soviet Union's socialist system than the Tsarist system before it, the capitalist system after it was overthrown (obviously), and than western capitalist countries in the same time period.
No wonder then that 90% of the Soviet population voted to stay in the Union, but of course that didn't stop its overthrow because capitalists had already taken it over by then.
A poll in 2009
As time passes though, the capitalist propaganda that kids in these places grow up with will probably start to outweigh the lived experiences of worsened living conditions after capitalists overthrew the USSR that their parents had. It's sad.
No matter how much time passes, I doubt the Capitalists can erase the memory of roughly 7 million excess deaths due to Shock Doctrine after dissolving the USSR.
The closest thing I've seen to an n value is 14760, which seems good, but no idea what the distribution of votes is, most of those might come from Bulgaria as far as we know
What "other tens of millions?" Where are you getting those numbers, the Black Book of Communism, which was debunked by its own writers?
Must be easy to be a right-winger, you can conjure numbers out of thin-air and positions on vibes, rather than actually look at history in any capacity.
Doesn't seem like you care about any facts of history, lol, to the point where you call Nazis "innocents" and pretend the USSR had famines during the Space Race.
Read Blackshirts and Reds. Or, don't, just remain a clueless right-winger rewriting history as the US Empire crumbles around you.
Exactly. This is probably a moron who read about USSR on facebook. Those were horrible times full of oppression and corruption.
I was raised in one of the sattelite countries and no. Those were bad very bad times unless you were a child of a small corrupted russian boot licker.
I’m sure homeless people and victims of the opioid crisis in the US also don’t care about US achievements in for example the olympics but people still talk about them.
The illegal dissollution of the USSR was one of Humanity's greatest tragedies, and anyone who thinks the Russian Federation is an improvement needs to do some serious introspection.
::: spoiler From one of the comments
Countries listed by the first launches of artificial Earth satellites:
USSR - 1957
USA - 1958
UK - 1962
Canada - 1962
Italy - 1964
France - 1965
Australia - 1967
Europe - 1968
Germany - 1969
Japan - 1970
China - 1970
Poland - 1973
Netherlands - 1974
Spain - 1974
India - 1975
⠀
Countries listed by the first launches of space satellites with their own launch vehicles:
USSR - October 4, 1957
USA - February 1, 1958
France - November 26, 1965
Italy - April 26, 1967
Japan - February 11, 1970
China - April 24, 1970
UK - October 28, 1971
India - 18 July 1980
Israel - September 19, 1988
Russia - January 21, 1992
Ukraine - August 31, 1995
Iran - February 2, 2009
DPRK - December 12, 2012
Republic of Korea - 30 January 2013
New Zealand - January 21, 2018
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Countries listed by the first flights of astronauts:
USSR - April 12, 1961
USA - May 5, 1961
Czechoslovakia - March 2, 1978
Poland - June 27, 1978
GDR - 26 August 1978
Bulgaria - April 10, 1979
Hungary - May 26, 1980
Vietnam - July 23, 1980
Cuba - September 18, 1980
Mongolia - March 22, 1981
Romania - May 14, 1981
France - June 24, 1982
FRG - November 28, 1983
India - April 3, 1984
Canada - October 5, 1984
⠀
Countries listed by the number of first-of-its-kind spacecraft (remarkable, of historical significance, with achievements that were made for the first time by one of the countries) until 1992:
USSR - 21
USA - 15
EU - 1
⠀
Countries listed by the number of spacecraft launched to explore the solar system, as well as first-of-its-kind or noteworthy vehicles launched into low Earth orbit before 1992:
USSR - 115
USA - 84
EU - 4
Japan - 4
Germany - 2
UK - 1
⠀
Countries listed by the number of successful orbital launches (not including emergency and partially emergency) until 1992:
USSR - 2278
USA - 903
Japan - 42
France - 39
China - 27
EU - 13
Kenya* - 9
India - 3
Australia - 2
Israel - 2
⠀
Countries listed by the lowest proportion of emergency orbital launches for countries with more than 10 launches before 1992:
USSR - 5.54%
EU - 7.14%
USA - 11.25%
Japan - 12.24%
France - 14.89%
China - 17.65%
⠀
Countries listed by the lowest proportion of accidental and partially accidental orbital launches for countries with more than 10 launches before 1992:
USSR - 7.13%
EU - 7.14%
Japan - 14.29%
USA - 14.65%
France - 17.02%
China - 20.59%
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The number of dead astronauts:
when performing space flight: in the USSR - 4, in the USA - 14;
in preparation for space flight: the USSR - 1, the USA - 5.
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Is this some contemporary soviet propaganda? I mean all the people who died for political reasons or because the state economy was mismanaged probably don't care much about these achievements.
(To borrow from Cowbee's comment a bit) Wealth inequality was far lower in the Soviet Union's socialist system than the Tsarist system before it, the capitalist system after it was overthrown (obviously), and than western capitalist countries in the same time period.
Source
Human Rights In The Soviet Union, Including Comparisons With The U.S.A. by Albert Szymanski
Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti
No wonder then that 90% of the Soviet population voted to stay in the Union, but of course that didn't stop its overthrow because capitalists had already taken it over by then.
A poll in 2009
As time passes though, the capitalist propaganda that kids in these places grow up with will probably start to outweigh the lived experiences of worsened living conditions after capitalists overthrew the USSR that their parents had. It's sad.
No matter how much time passes, I doubt the Capitalists can erase the memory of roughly 7 million excess deaths due to Shock Doctrine after dissolving the USSR.
Why not? Talk to the teenagers in Russia. I doubt many would be even aware. Nor that they'd care, claiming "well it was worse under sovok"
not to refute your point, but without n values per country this poll is meaningless:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/
The closest thing I've seen to an n value is 14760, which seems good, but no idea what the distribution of votes is, most of those might come from Bulgaria as far as we know
Funny you focus on whatever this is and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.
I'm here because my family escaped that shit.
Is it a bad thing to highlight that wealth disparity dramatically shrank in the USSR and dramatically increased in the Russian Federation?
Are you referring to Nazi sympathizers, the Tsarist White Army, or Capitalist insurgents?
What "other tens of millions?" Where are you getting those numbers, the Black Book of Communism, which was debunked by its own writers?
Must be easy to be a right-winger, you can conjure numbers out of thin-air and positions on vibes, rather than actually look at history in any capacity.
Doesn't seem like you care about any facts of history, lol, to the point where you call Nazis "innocents" and pretend the USSR had famines during the Space Race.
Read Blackshirts and Reds. Or, don't, just remain a clueless right-winger rewriting history as the US Empire crumbles around you.
Won’t somebody please think of the Nazis and gusanos!
Exactly. This is probably a moron who read about USSR on facebook. Those were horrible times full of oppression and corruption. I was raised in one of the sattelite countries and no. Those were bad very bad times unless you were a child of a small corrupted russian boot licker.
Facebook, classic bastion of Communism.
Did you ignore the linked study on wealth disparity and the 2 history books?
Who needs new, dissonant information when we’ve got common sense?
Yeah successfully.
Liberals try to fucking read challenge (impossible)
I’m sure homeless people and victims of the opioid crisis in the US also don’t care about US achievements in for example the olympics but people still talk about them.