Spyke
lemmy.ca

... or we are not the Bell Riot Timeline

... we are also not in the Bad Timeline

... we are probably in the Worst Possible Timeline and never venture beyond our solar system let alone our planetary system.

The Vulcans are sitting just outside our solar system and see what's happening and are saying to themselves 'yeah, we'll pass, these guys are doomed anyway'

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abbadon420reply
lemm.ee

Maybe this timeliness is where the first aliens we meet are The Borg

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You win the Back to Reality award. Congratulations, I guess.

A variant would be that we're on the Third Body Problem alternate timeline, where everyone in the Dark Forest already knows about us and don't do anything simply because we are our own worst enemy and will take care of ourselves.

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lemmy.world

Late stage capitalism. Back in the 90s the corpos didn't want to squeeze every last drop out of you like they do today. Might be nostalgia, but it feels like this kinda started ramping up around the 08 collapse...

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They absolutely did want to squeeze every last drop out of you. They've never not. The only difference is that we've had decades of regulatory capture, unrestricted corporate mergers, and lower tax rates for the rich. So now they're free to squeeze much harder than they have previously.

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Past Tense was '90s Star Trek writers' best guess at what late stage capitalism might look like.

Our current actual reality is literally worse than they could imagine.

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flickerreply
lemmy.world

I forget. As a woman, is the tape-on goatee provided or do I have to manufacture one myself?

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They'll be in your onboarding packet. But only three. After that, you'll have to grow your own.

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That’s the point. Instead of things being shitty and we do something about it it just gets worse.

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ummthatguyreply
lemmy.world

Unfortunately/Fortunately, those events divert around the time of Zefram Cochran. At least, as was depicted at the beginning of "In a Mirror Darkly"

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lemmy.world

The opening credits of Enterprise shows the Terran Empire landing on the Moon after winning what would be WW2 for us. I think the point of divergence is well before Zephram and even the 20th Century.

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I think it was depicting the Empire retaking the moon after WWIII (and then fighting over who did the retaking), not a replacement for the original moon landing.

What happened in A Mirror Darkly shows the divergent point from the primary Star Trek timeline, which diverged from our own timeline in the 1960s or 1970s.

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ummthatguyreply
lemmy.world

Hadn't considered the credits montage. But that makes it much less likely for Cochran to even exist, let alone still develop warp drive post WWIII.

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samus12345reply
lemmy.world

Everything in the Mirror timeline makes it highly unlikely that the same people would exist as in the Prime timeline. There's just something about that universe that makes such extreme improbabilities happen regardless.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

That plot stupidity is part of why I low-key hate all the mirror universe stuff.

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I think it's explained as the Mirror Universe somehow being specially connected to the Prime one. But yeah, it's really just an excuse to show known characters being assholes.

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lemmy.world

Tbf, the real year to be worried about is 2026, when WWIII: Nuclear Edition kicks off

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lemm.ee

If this is true, we get Kira in skin-tight leather. So, it's not all bad.

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Bell was killed, and another person filled in the role. I believe that we'll have our moment, but it isn't now. Bell isn't going to save us, we need to save ourselves.

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mander.xyz

I thought trek was scifi, some of you seem to think it's scifa(ct).

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