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Thunderbird 115 - odd lack of packaged options beginning to raise eyebrows?

Thunderbird 115 has been out over a week now and the lack of packaged versions, especially Flatpak, is beginning to raise eyebrows. Gotta admit, I've been curious at the lack of a Flatpak version since the day they announced it's "availability".

An article:

https://www.webpronews.com/thunderbird-leaves-linux-users-waiting-for-much-hyped-version-115/

Linux Cast episode:

https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=G-OvQw2JRWI

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lemm.ee

I don't think a week is that long to wait for an open source project like this. I suspect as soon as they released 115 they got a deluge of bug reports that are probably keeping them occupied.

Granted, I'm not personally affected because I use Arch btw. But on a serious note, it makes sense to me that "bleeding edge" distros where users expect the latest versions quickly would package Thunderbird for their repos, whereas those on more stability-focused distros would wait the couple of weeks for the Flatpak.

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I think thunderbird always delay major version upgrade until <version>.2.

If you observe their changelog:

115.0: only offer binary download, not as upgrade

102.0: only offer binary download, not as upgrade

102.1.2: only offer binary download, not as upgrade

102.2: no such disclaimer

They also has the same disclaimer for 91.x, that's how Thunderbird decided to distribute update.

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lemmy.world

I’m using Evolution as I prefer their interface. I’m curious to give the new Thunderbird a try when there’s a flatpak.

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sh.itjust.works

Same here, actually. I switched to Evolution a year or so ago from T-bird and I'm curious if v115 will leapfrog Evolution. I'm optimistic that it will.

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Do you know if they'll include EWS support? That's been keeping me using Evolution.

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Eh, I don't at flatpak or snap unless I have no other choice, but i get why it would be annoying to have the delay.

That being said, I wouldn't be concerned until almost a month. It's a big update that's going to need more debugging than usual. Makes sense to hold back for a bit.

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They do progressive roll-out. With last year's update the Flatpak also waited for the to say "this is stable enough, ship it"

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I know Gentoo has it masked for testing with this note, which is probably the same reason why other distros without the same mechanism don't have it at all:

Testing. An upgrade from 102 isn't recommended due to downgrading most likely not being possible. Back up your profile before attempting. Fresh install should be fine. Bug #910229

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Yes I actually checked whether my flatpaks were updating properly the other day because of this. I think being the official package if anything I would have expected Flathub to have it first, or at least within a few hours. I understand that things don't always go to plan but starting to get a bit impatient here with the lack of explanation.

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I'm on it now on arch. TBH it's kinda making my life harder because some things I'm used to using have moved. I'm sure I'll see the advantages of it at some point.

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I think they said in the release article that they were going to roll 115 out slowly because it's such a big change.

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It's in the Snap Store as a release candidate. But sure if it will let you install it but Canonical seems to have it and be in the verification stage before releasing to stable.

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