Spyke
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feddit.org

It takes a year or so until the second hand market has plenty to offer. But already a few days after the release you can find the first offers.

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feddit.org

I have the Pixel 8a. For me, it's really a great phone. As far as I know, the 8a is never going to get the "Gemini AI" software due to limited memory (does not apply to 8/8pro).

Camera, performance, screen etc is mostly similar as I heard.

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lemmy.world

That's odd, I installed the Gemini app on my 6a like a week ago. Unless you're specifically talking about grapheneOS.

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Whats not aupported is to run gemini nano directly on your phone. The default gemini (in the cloud) works fine.

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Wait for a black Friday deal. I traded in my 4a previously and upgraded to a 7a for $150

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sh.itjust.works

There isn't a chance in hell you're getting Gemini Nano outside of the stock ROM.

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evoreply
sh.itjust.works

Because it's proprietary software. They have an open source model (based off it) called Gemma but Gemini Nano is super locked down. There aren't even public APIs for 3rd party developers to use it through the OS yet.

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evoreply
sh.itjust.works

None of those are cutting edge AI models that could be ripped open and examined if people had access to the files. It's not just an app or something, there are internal trade secrets at risk.

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That is basically what you get if you have direct access to the LLM file(s).

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fedia.io

Because Google is a monopolistic piece of shit and they try to lock you in to their shitty, privacy-invasive ecosystem. In my opinion it's like a hundred times worse than Apple. Only Google hardware (phones and tablets) are worth buying, but only for the strong hardware security features, definitely not for the stupid proprietary software they come with by default.

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Not to mention that even with the stock OS you can disable most if not all sniffing components. Of course Google still has root but they don't put their typically don't embed obfuscated stuff because they don't need to.

Note that I'm not arguing that Google isn't privacy invasive "because you can turn it all off." The user shouldn't have to go through this trouble to recover their privacy and the user experience definitively degrades if you do.

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lemmy.ca

Definitely high. It's pretty funny how people manufactured this privacy perception and projected it over Apple. Apple was happy to capitalize on it and keep it going. Reminds me of the security perception over BlackBerry. Hot air either way.

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lemmy.world

Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

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evoreply
sh.itjust.works

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

Source? There's no way any of the offline stuff works.

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evoreply
sh.itjust.works

So this says absolutely nothing about on device AI...

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lemmy.world

It does?

Pixel Camera (previously known as Google Camera) can take full advantage of the available cameras and image processing hardware as it can on the stock OS and does not require GSF or sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS. Direct TPU and GXP access by Google apps including Pixel Camera is controlled by a toggle added by GrapheneOS and doesn't provide them with any additional access to data. The toggle exists for attack surface reduction. Every app can use the TPU and GXP via standard APIs including the Android Neural Networks API and Camera2 API regardless.

TPUs and GXP are what enable apps to do on device ais with whatever model they choose to bring.

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sh.itjust.works

Lol. That's the hardware. Of course it has access to the device hardware. You still need software. All of Google's local AI features use Gemini Nano, which absolutely 100% I guarantee you will not ship with GrapheneOS.

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feddit.org

That's why people here are discussing Gemini nano, which can run locally on your phone and not in the cloud (like the "normal" gemini model)

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lemmy.zip

Ollama isn't a model. It is a software that allows you to run llms and query them in layer 7

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When are you going to admit you have no idea what you are talking about?

An LLM literally is a "general AI model that powers a variety of tasks".

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You reached the end