I will not have the Osprey's good name besmirched like this, I'll have you know these things fly around here all the time and only one two have ever crashed in the forest outside town!
Don't defend the osprey, it's not good for your health. It knows when you're lying and will retaliate in the only way a rotary aircraft with even more moving parts knows how.
Ya know,I've had Ukraine on my mind so much, I'd forgotten about that? Thanks for the reminder, I was going to hire a few retired agents as security for a concert in Aurora.
Ignore them. They're just haters who can't handle the fact that despite it's youth, the Osprey is already a legendary platform.
Think of it like the A-10, except instead of repeatedly slaughtering friendly forces, it just regularly kills anyone dumb enough to ride in one, or pilot it.
fudds like to call the osprey a death trap because they read some headlines early on and never bothered looking into the data. that's my understanding of it, as i have also not looked into the data.
Unlike helicopters, they cannot autorotate, meaning if you lose power in any position other than forward cruise, you're fucked. Asymmetric power loss is also extra bad.
The design is inherently less safe than either a helicopter or a fixed wing aircraft.
again, as someone who doesn't know much about this, aren't they only using the VTOL configuration during takeoff and landing? and, doesn't auto rotation require a certain amount of altitude? if both of those are true, then they would be in danger at the same time
They're flying with the engines facing at least partially upwards during takeoff and landing, even when taking off like an aircraft, meaning they're in trouble if they lose power, not just in a hover. The Japanese crash happened on final approach as they were slowing down, but still a few hundred feet in the air.
This is the combination of airspeed and height you cannot perform an autorotation from, the graph shown is worse than many other helicopters. Robinson aircraft can auto from zero airspeed at around 400 feet. It's all about having enough forward speed to flare off your rate of descent and land with only forward airspeed, you could successfully flare at head height and enough airspeed over good ground.
I was watching a video about the crash in Japan just last night, actually.
Basically, they dismissed multiple warnings, and should have landed the aircraft much sooner than they did. They were on final approach when the failure happened, meaning if they'd landed a few minutes sooner, they would have been fine.
There's a thing on the stuffy r/credibledefense that might change your mind on pilot error. TL;DR the flight manuals and warning design failed the pilots and the checklists didn't communicate the urgency
I will not have the Osprey's good name besmirched like this, I'll have you know these things fly around here all the time and only
onetwo have ever crashed in the forest outside town!Did... Did another Osprey crash as you wrote this comment?
No but I read Wikipedia's list of Osprey crashes...
I mean they fly all over Darwin Australia all the time, I've only heard of one going down here.
That was last year
this is osprey slander
osprey bros clutching their pearls.....if only they could reliably
Don't defend the osprey, it's not good for your health. It knows when you're lying and will retaliate in the only way a rotary aircraft with even more moving parts knows how.
Do you like that pole vaulting guy.....
https://i.imgur.com/QNR0tKM.mp4
Yeah, Ospreys have a better crash record per flight hour than Blackhawks
We've got a black hawk down, we've got a black hawk down. Super 6-1 is down
How does the survivability compare?
It's Osprey libel. Slander is spoken, libel is written. Did the Veep make it to whatever?
Considering the level of protection the Secret Service provides, candidates are safer riding in an osprey than giving a speech.
Ya know,I've had Ukraine on my mind so much, I'd forgotten about that? Thanks for the reminder, I was going to hire a few retired agents as security for a concert in Aurora.
Don't get it
Flying deathtrap. VP on an Osprey, we just witnessed an assassination attempt!
It's a layered joke about an Osprey's safety record.
Ignore them. They're just haters who can't handle the fact that despite it's youth, the Osprey is already a legendary platform.
Think of it like the A-10, except instead of repeatedly slaughtering friendly forces, it just regularly kills anyone dumb enough to ride in one, or pilot it.
It's called a meritocracy!
fudds like to call the osprey a death trap because they read some headlines early on and never bothered looking into the data. that's my understanding of it, as i have also not looked into the data.
Unlike helicopters, they cannot autorotate, meaning if you lose power in any position other than forward cruise, you're fucked. Asymmetric power loss is also extra bad.
The design is inherently less safe than either a helicopter or a fixed wing aircraft.
again, as someone who doesn't know much about this, aren't they only using the VTOL configuration during takeoff and landing? and, doesn't auto rotation require a certain amount of altitude? if both of those are true, then they would be in danger at the same time
They're flying with the engines facing at least partially upwards during takeoff and landing, even when taking off like an aircraft, meaning they're in trouble if they lose power, not just in a hover. The Japanese crash happened on final approach as they were slowing down, but still a few hundred feet in the air.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_height%E2%80%93velocity_diagram
This is the combination of airspeed and height you cannot perform an autorotation from, the graph shown is worse than many other helicopters. Robinson aircraft can auto from zero airspeed at around 400 feet. It's all about having enough forward speed to flare off your rate of descent and land with only forward airspeed, you could successfully flare at head height and enough airspeed over good ground.
Other tiltrotors are capable of autorotation.
I like that the chart there has a little red sliver to indicate that it is, in fact, a bad idea to fly very fast at ground level.
Anecdotal, but I almost exclusively see them flying in VTOL configuration
That's at least partly because that's the easiest time to photograph an aircraft.
I don't mean in photos, they just fly around town in VTOL configuration all the time. Hardly ever see them at full tilt.
I'll allow it. 💅 🍵
I was watching a video about the crash in Japan just last night, actually.
Basically, they dismissed multiple warnings, and should have landed the aircraft much sooner than they did. They were on final approach when the failure happened, meaning if they'd landed a few minutes sooner, they would have been fine.
There's a thing on the stuffy r/credibledefense that might change your mind on pilot error. TL;DR the flight manuals and warning design failed the pilots and the checklists didn't communicate the urgency
Half Life prepared me for this
Ah cool, I was at the park with my kid Tuesday evening and saw this fly over us. We figured Kamala was in there but nice to have confirmation