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bookwormstory.social

I'll be that guy: Use forgejo instead, its main contributor is a Non-Profit compared to Gitea's For-Profit owners

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4rkalreply
lemmy.world

Silly question but what is the problem with gitea being for profit?

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I guess out of fear that we get another gitlab situation, where the open source offering has a load of key features eventually kept behind a paywall

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At some point they will do a Redis or Terraform and say no more open source, pay us to use it.

All contributions are now owned by us and not by the person who wrote it.

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As the other commenter already said it's an abundance of caution. GItea is already moving in the direction of SaaS and an easily self-hostable solution runs counter to that plan (Gitea is already offering a managed Cloud so this is not a hypothetical). One thing that has already happened is Gitea introducing a Contributor License Agreement, effectively allowing them to change the license of the code at any time.

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lemmynsfw.com

Thanks, I always keep forgetting what this ones called. I use a build of gitea from before it became shit but I keep telling myself I need to change to "that better one".

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bastionreply
feddit.nl

If it helps, it's supposed to be a drop-in replacement.

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It's a hard fork by now, but the switch should still be pretty painless.

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Riziliareply
lemmy.zip

Well I learned something new today.. maybe its time to plan a migration

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drspodreply
lemmy.ml

I think for now Forgejo is a drop-in replacement. However since they are a hard-fork, at some point in the future they will diverge enough to be mutually incompatible, so the clock is ticking on migrating.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

There's been a hostile takeover at Gitea and it's now run / owned by a for-profit company. The developers forked the project under the name Forgejo and are continuing the work under a non-profit. See also: Their introduction post and a page comparing the two projects. Feel free to look up more, since I haven't familiarized myself with the incident all that much myself. Either way though, maybe consider using Forgejo instead of Gitea.

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poVoqreply
slrpnk.net

Hostile not quite, as it was a group of core developers. But still a shitty move, especially how it was done in secrecy and disregarding other devs and the larger community.

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Perhaps not a takeover so much as a betrayal, a backstabbing? Certainly hostile to the community.

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Could you please provide some sources for that? I'd like to know more.

First of all though, there is no such thing as a "hostile fork". Being able to fork a project, for any reason, is the entire point of open source. And to be fair, not wanting to continue working for a for-profit company for free is a very good reason.

And yeah, when you suddenly turn a FOSS project that's been developed with the help of a bunch of contributors, into a for-profit company, without making a big fuss about it beforehand and allow the contributors and community to weigh in, then yeah, that's a hostile takeover of sorts, at least in my opinion. Developers gotta make money, but they could've done that by creating a new brand instead of taking over that of a previously completely FOSS project. Forgejo is preventing that exact thing from happening by joining Codeberg (a non-profit).

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In 2022, maintainers (...) founded the company Gitea Limited with the goal of offering hosting services using (proprietary) versions of Gitea. (...). The shift away from a community ownership model received some resistance from some contributors, which led to the formation of a software fork called Forgejo. From Wikipedia.

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startrek.website

But check that it has all the features you need because it lags behind gitea in some aspects (like ci).

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4rkalreply
lemmy.world

Great question

I always found setting up a git server from scratch to be quite confusing and I also like the webui that gitea offers.

But recently I have also started moving some of my github projects there so having a link (with a readme and everything) that I can share with others is important.

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Selfhosted Gitea is a way to get a wiki, bug tracker or whatnot - collaborate, for example, but it's not necessary to have a Git server for your personal use.

No, but it is amazing for browsing your repos and visually seeing what you did in a past commit or a branch, while your IDE is open to your latest code. Or copying and pasting something that you need from a different repo.

For Git experts, sure they can probably do all that better inside their IDE or CLI, but for us plebs, having your own Forgejo is incredible 😍

I have mine configured to disable the wiki and issues, etc, it's just the repo browser.

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Miaoureply

I'm hoping federation will allow me to get rid of my github entirely, but that's wishful thinking I fear

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I intentionally do not host my own git repos mostly because I need them to be available when my environment is having problems.

I make use of local runners for CI/CD though which is nice but git is one of the few things I need to not have to worry about.

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Sidenote: If you just want a nice web frontend for others to view your Git repositories, you can use cgit instead.

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rezifonreply
lemmy.world

I spent a decade as a full time Tcl developer and even I don’t use fossil.

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After dealing with tcl errors trying to test sqlite, I feel I've never seen a more scathing criticism of fossil.

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I love love love that Fossil is a single executable.

All in all, the version control wars have ended and git has won. Mercurial is another one I sort of wanna try just to see what it's like.

Re: rebasing, I think squashing / rebasing (in place of merging) is bad but I am also one of the few people I know who tries to make a good history with good commit messages prior to opening a pull request by using interactive rebasing. (This topic is confusing to talk about because I have to say "I don't rebase, instead o rebase" which can be confusing.)

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