Spyke

I read "cooka" as "cock" for a second and had to do a double take

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Gregorreply
gregtech.eu

Mamma mia, I cooka da meatball and pizza di Italiano grande.

Let me shitpost in peace plz

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vzqreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You can argue you have a right to post what you want.

You can’t argue however that I don’t have the same right.

You post prejudiced garbage, I’m gonna call it out. I’m sure it’s “just a joak”, but if there’s one thing we’ve learned in the past decade or so, it’s that everything is ironic until it suddenly is not.

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sudneoreply
lemm.ee

Now, as an Italian I can't really say that I am offended by this. I don't care and I frequent the international community for long enough that I got used to the "mamma mia", hand gestures, "mi scuzi" etc., whatever.

That said:

or was a way to hide derogatory behavior

If you don't consider stereotyping people as uneducated half-wits who can't speak a second language and express themselves in super-mario sentences derogatory in itself, I guess you have a very high bar.

Also you kinda made up this definition of prejudice, which simply means having opinions about something in advance.

an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, especially when formed without enough thought or knowledge

Believe it or not, the type of stereotype here represented is quite widespread. Ask any Italian abroad how often they encounter the stuff I mentioned above.

Here, we’ll include Americans in the meme:

The example you bring is then completely off the mark. It's one thing making fun of Italian "society" as - say - unorganized, or something else. It's another thing stereotyping individuals and their individual characteristics.


All in all I have to say that it's quite surprising to see this kind of behavior in the Fediverse, where such behavior would be absolutely not tolerated if it were about some other category. Again, I am fairly neutral and I take the joke for what it is, but the hypocrisy in this thread is really funny.

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vzqreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

If Italian people were offended by this

“If” an Italian was, and told you, you’d explain to him he isn’t really offended, like you’re doing now. Because that’s what you are doing after an Italian told you to knock this shit off.

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Fortatechreply
gregtech.eu

I'm pretty sure any reasonable Italian would just ignore it and move on.

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vzqreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Which is what I do 99% of the time.

Not this time. This time I speak my piece.

Also, your “if you complain about prejudice you are not reasonable” is not appreciated. It’s straight up abuser talk.

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Gregorreply
gregtech.eu

Would you mind telling me why you are offended by this?

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vzqreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Because it plays on harmful stereotypes.

How is this even a question?

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Gregorreply
gregtech.eu

Jude block me mate. That's the beauty of the fediverse.

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vzqreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

I don’t want to block you. I want everyone here to see what you post, and what I think of it.

Then I block you.

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Understandable. Hey everyone, I'm racist, apparently, because I said mamma mia.

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Etalians responding to this meme: You're a damn a right I cooka da meatball!

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sudneoreply
lemm.ee

So you know that this is a stereotype hopefully, and that people don't actually talk like super mario, right?

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Super Mario is a video game, but just go to an Italian restaurant or pub and you'll hear some pretty familiar language.

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RVGamer06reply
sh.itjust.works

Especially if you go somewhere near Naples(the stereotypical Italian speech comes from Neapolitan, essentially)

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I think it simply comes from the bad english of italian people who immigrated to the US. Plenty of them were from South, but the stereotypical speech is simply a consequence of Italians pronouncing words as they are written (given Italian works like that). Neapolitan dialect is actually very contracted, so the opposite of elongated vocals as the stereotype goes.

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Italian pub...? Anyway, I am Italian, I know what people sound like. Thanks for the tip though

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