Good luck hitting your target. With the drone even if you miss you can fly it back to safety until there is a new target too. Neither is meant for this type of combat and this case was probably just luck and an opertune target. The drone probably wasn't launched specifically to take out the aircraft.
But it's enough of a game changer that large and emplaced targets will be overwhelmed. Watching those drone shows and their ability to communicate with each other like a hive mind blew my mind thinking about that from a military standpoint. I think it will be like stealth technology and radar. Most planes are not stealth so old radar is still effective. Some things will be able to protect themselves from drone attacks, but most will be vulnerable in one way or another. I'm just a military gamer and I can think of hundreds of types of drones I'd create if I was planning for a defense or attack, the experts have likely thought of those and thousands more; diggers, crawlers, flyers, dummies until signaled, attaching things coming in and out from ground, air, etc, and on and on.
Imagine pods dropped like old parachutes but they become embedded in the ground with a drone controller and all the drones needed for the job at hand. You could drop hundreds of those in an area and create fortifications and drone weapon bases in one swoop. I imagine drone bases would be heavily protected from EMI type attacks
A helicopter will crash if you just look at it wrong. I'm not quite sure why this is surprising to a lot of people.
Just because a helicopter can go faster than a drone, doesn't mean it's always going faster than a drone. The benefit of vertical take off is that you can land and pick up troops in dangerous areas.
More than likely this is the same scenario as whenever they shoot down one of ours with an RPG in Afghanistan. Got them right after touch down or take off, or got a lucky hit while they were flying low and slow.
Yeap, only thing worse than rotary aircraft are apparently tiltrotar aircraft. The V22 is trying it's best to be the most dangerous thing in the air in the worst way possible.
would USA helicopters got shot down by the drone too?
I would guess so.
If we had a sensor package that could reliably detect FPV drones out there, I suspect that it'd be getting mass-produced and sent to the Ukrainians.
A helicopter can go faster than an FPV drone, so as long as it's in the air, and has a bit of warning, it can just outfly the drone; the drone can't catch up. Maybe multiple drones simultaneously coming from all directions, especially if there's also heavy air defenses that prevent the helicopter from climbing, could still bring down a helicopter.
The drone fired an RPG or the drone crashed into the copter carrying an RPG? THE PHYSICS.
If the picture is accurate it would have to have crashed into it.
save a lot of money if you just have a grenade and propel it yourself
Good luck hitting your target. With the drone even if you miss you can fly it back to safety until there is a new target too. Neither is meant for this type of combat and this case was probably just luck and an opertune target. The drone probably wasn't launched specifically to take out the aircraft.
The invention of the suicide bomber (circa 2024, colourised)
Doesn't rpg literally stand for rocket propelled grenade
No, it stands for Role Playing Game. The drone was role-playing as a suicide bomber, keep up.
A true example of the action economy in combat.
Sadly no, it stands for "Ruchnoĭ protivotankovyĭ granatomet," or "Hand Held Anti-tank Grenade Launcher" in English.
Yup
Kind of amazed the drone was going fast enough to trigger the impact fuse. but no propellant so couldn't be fired
Presumably they tamper with the charge so a fast impact isn't needed. Y'know, because what would be the point otherwise, regardless of the target.
I'd also assume they just flew the thing near the hovering helicopter and triggered it remotely, that would do the trick.
Or maybe they hit the blades?
It's not mutually exclusive.
Drones are going to change future warfare so much. Big ships, fortifications, and slow planes/choppers are going to be very vulnerable imo
Up to the time we develop an effective counter.
But it's enough of a game changer that large and emplaced targets will be overwhelmed. Watching those drone shows and their ability to communicate with each other like a hive mind blew my mind thinking about that from a military standpoint. I think it will be like stealth technology and radar. Most planes are not stealth so old radar is still effective. Some things will be able to protect themselves from drone attacks, but most will be vulnerable in one way or another. I'm just a military gamer and I can think of hundreds of types of drones I'd create if I was planning for a defense or attack, the experts have likely thought of those and thousands more; diggers, crawlers, flyers, dummies until signaled, attaching things coming in and out from ground, air, etc, and on and on.
I remember basic designs being bought out by governments in 2007 when I was following development, so yes, there are years of work already into this.
Imagine pods dropped like old parachutes but they become embedded in the ground with a drone controller and all the drones needed for the job at hand. You could drop hundreds of those in an area and create fortifications and drone weapon bases in one swoop. I imagine drone bases would be heavily protected from EMI type attacks
Like this? https://eos-aus.com/defence/counter-drone-systems/slinger/
I like that this system uses bullets against drones, rather than massive generators and microwaves
I expect drones are going to need IFF soon
would USA helicopters got shot down by the drone too?
People who answer you won't know what they're talking about.
People who know what they're talking about won't answer you.
Repost your question to the war thunder forums if you want it answered.
With citable sources even!
We would offer the drone $2,200 and it would come work for us
A helicopter will crash if you just look at it wrong. I'm not quite sure why this is surprising to a lot of people.
Just because a helicopter can go faster than a drone, doesn't mean it's always going faster than a drone. The benefit of vertical take off is that you can land and pick up troops in dangerous areas.
More than likely this is the same scenario as whenever they shoot down one of ours with an RPG in Afghanistan. Got them right after touch down or take off, or got a lucky hit while they were flying low and slow.
Yeap, only thing worse than rotary aircraft are apparently tiltrotar aircraft. The V22 is trying it's best to be the most dangerous thing in the air in the worst way possible.
Yup, and a second rotor just adds another way to die.
I would guess so.
If we had a sensor package that could reliably detect FPV drones out there, I suspect that it'd be getting mass-produced and sent to the Ukrainians.
A helicopter can go faster than an FPV drone, so as long as it's in the air, and has a bit of warning, it can just outfly the drone; the drone can't catch up. Maybe multiple drones simultaneously coming from all directions, especially if there's also heavy air defenses that prevent the helicopter from climbing, could still bring down a helicopter.
Shit I had that on my Bingo card so many times in the 2010s I stopped putting it on there.
Dammit.
I want a $500 drone to shoot down a $1000 drone with a $10,000 missile.
$1000 drone? likely less than 500$ even for a consumer, and ukraine does have some of its own production setup to drive costs lower.
I kinda feel like an AirHogs plane could take down a Russian chopper now.