But canonically, the Futurama dog waited like 10 minutes! Some time travel shenanigans overwrote the reality where he spends his life waiting. In the final timeline he got to live a few more happy years with his master 🥲
Just in case you weren't aware, that Futurama episode was loosely based on a real life dog that waited for his master at the train station every day for years after the humans death
Looks like several varieties spread around are the same species. I can tell you that not all varieties change their webs at the same rate. (The one described on wikipedia is not the one that lives here. The ones here lay a web at the morning, early afternoon and sunset. I've been in places where they don't change their webs at all, just keep them constant.)
That spider is also known for making swarms. But the age and behavior of the swarm changes from one variety to another.
Do people who perpetuate this stereotype have cats? Because it seems like they don’t. My cat is psyched and affectionate as hell when I come home. All of my cats have been the same way.
Mine also. He waits in the windowsill looking for me, and when he sees me coming he gets super pumped up and races to the front door
Once I set up a motion detecting webcam inside once when I had to go away for a day (32 hours to be precise lol). Looking at the footage later, I saw him pacing back and forward between windows, clearly pining for me. I’m sorry buddy!
Both of mine stay outside waiting for me at the time I usually arrive. They greet me afectiously, follow me inside and ask for pets and belly rubs. Then they tell me to go fuck myself and leave.
When I come back at a random time I just yell their names at the door, a inter-dimensional portal opens on the far side of the street and they each come running to greet me, love me and, you guessed, tell me to go fuck myself.
I think a lot of people just don't know how to read cats as well as dogs. Cats can be very aloof but still very loving and most people just know how to read body language from dogs more than cats. Knowing that when a cat gives you that narrow eyed glare and slow blinking is actually a sign of affection is a good indicator that cats are just weird little things.
Especially if we've been away longer our cat will just go nuts for us for days. Even just coming home from work she'll come say hello and maybe give us a couple roll-arounds to greet us. I get that it's not quite as obvious as dogs though and previous cats I've had were not so affective.
When my wife comes home from work, I tell her that the dogs are glad she is back from being gone forever again because she's gone forever and is never coming back every day.
I just adopted a dog that was breeding stock in a puppy mill. She bonded to me right away but has major separation anxiety. Even if I'm gone for 5 minutes, she goes nuts when I get back and acts like I've been gone for months.
I read somewhere that on average 1 day of our life equates to 1 week for our beloved pups. I think of this everytime I'm feeling too lazy to engage with mine.
Fair point and I understand it. I simply meant that it is another data point that moves my emotions when I think about dogs general experience, like this comic highlights. Maybe too esoteric of a share lol.
I try to remember that every day and cherish and spend time with her so that when it's finally time for her to move on, I have no regrets that I could have done more.
I agree that it is creepy and subservient... but it is also entirely accurate. The dog is a pet. It is entirely reliant on the owner, and it is only allowed to do what the owner lets it do. It eats when the owner tells it to. It goes outside only when the owner says so. It probably even had its genitals removed at the request of the owner.
So yeah, 'master' is an appropriate word here.
I find it a bit uncomfortable too, which is why I don't have a pet. But from what I can tell, dogs are generally fine with this arrangement. Most dogs seem to like it this way.
The issue is sapience, not sentience. To imply that even a stupid human, a sapient being, is in any way comparable to the intelligence of a dog is offensive
I'm saying they're capable of minimal animal-level intelligence, not human-like sapience implying higher thought. I believe this to be fact, not subjective opinion.
Other animal's intelligence is clearly different form human's, but every study they do on the intelligence of animals shows them to be more intelligent and closer to us than was previously thought. You assuming to understand the experience of dogs is, like you said, belief. You should have just stopped there though, because your belief is just that, a belief, not a fact.
I see the comic as an attempt to translate the existential stress a dog "feels" to the human experience, especially it's intensity.
Because even with no language, no consciousness as humans have it, dogs do experience intensity you could measure in cortisol levels, heartbeat, eye movement etc.
The comic is useful for those who are interested in translating that to human experience. A communicative form that works well is narrative framing. It gives your empathy a correspondant in your conscious thinking.
I like dogs. I dislike anthropomorphizing pets and unduly imbuing them with humanity. I take issue with modern dog culture that does just that, teaching people that dogs are "family" rather than encouraging normal and healthy human-pet relationships. You can and should love your dog, but like a dog, not like it was your human child.
I don't support cruelty to dogs. I think it's fucked up to have them chained up alone outside, to leave in a hot car, any of that. I just also think it's fucked up to carry them around in your purse in public settings were dogs are clearly unwelcomed. I think when you accept the responsibility of having a pet you're accepting the responsibility of making sure all that pet's needs, including for attention and affection, are met. This is healthy approach to dog ownership.
You're referencing extremes while trying to deflate the average. Most people do not carry their dogs in a purse. My pets are my family. I do not carry them around in a purse.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie
I was getting the tissues.
Sir, this is a Wendy's!
Sandy's*
Don’t
I’ll bring the lotion
For real I was getting futurama dog episode vibes… glad it wasn’t the case
But canonically, the Futurama dog waited like 10 minutes! Some time travel shenanigans overwrote the reality where he spends his life waiting. In the final timeline he got to live a few more happy years with his master 🥲
Just in case you weren't aware, that Futurama episode was loosely based on a real life dog that waited for his master at the train station every day for years after the humans death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik%C5%8D?wprov=sfla1
They are too good for us and we don't deserve them, but I'm glad we have them in our lives.
Didn't even need to look at the link to know it was Hachiko!
I've been to Shibuya station and seen (and pet) Hachiko (the statue) a few times, always a weirdly melancholic experience
How long has this guy been putting off doing the dishes?
One day, spiders get it done.
We have a species of spider around here that rebuilds its web 3 times a day, for catching the different bugs awake at each period.
A balanced diet is important.
Most spiders actually rebuild their web at least daily. They eat it and put it back up. Otherwise it gets dusty and not effective.
Please tell me more, I want to learn about this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parawixia_bistriata
Looks like several varieties spread around are the same species. I can tell you that not all varieties change their webs at the same rate. (The one described on wikipedia is not the one that lives here. The ones here lay a web at the morning, early afternoon and sunset. I've been in places where they don't change their webs at all, just keep them constant.)
That spider is also known for making swarms. But the age and behavior of the swarm changes from one variety to another.
They're the Amish of bugs
Pretty posh. In our house thats what the ants are for.
That fills me with determination.
Long enough for "stainless" to not mean anything lol
They're Halloween decorations!
Now we need this but with a cat and the last panel reading “where the fuck have you been and where’s my damn food”
Do people who perpetuate this stereotype have cats? Because it seems like they don’t. My cat is psyched and affectionate as hell when I come home. All of my cats have been the same way.
Fully agree. Mine runs out to meet me, does the same arm stretch greeting, and isn't hassling me for treats or anything.
Mine also. He waits in the windowsill looking for me, and when he sees me coming he gets super pumped up and races to the front door
Once I set up a motion detecting webcam inside once when I had to go away for a day (32 hours to be precise lol). Looking at the footage later, I saw him pacing back and forward between windows, clearly pining for me. I’m sorry buddy!
Both of mine stay outside waiting for me at the time I usually arrive. They greet me afectiously, follow me inside and ask for pets and belly rubs. Then they tell me to go fuck myself and leave.
When I come back at a random time I just yell their names at the door, a inter-dimensional portal opens on the far side of the street and they each come running to greet me, love me and, you guessed, tell me to go fuck myself.
I love those little bastards.
I think a lot of people just don't know how to read cats as well as dogs. Cats can be very aloof but still very loving and most people just know how to read body language from dogs more than cats. Knowing that when a cat gives you that narrow eyed glare and slow blinking is actually a sign of affection is a good indicator that cats are just weird little things.
A lot of people also just treat cats as they would dogs and are surprised they don't get the same responses.
I have two. One of them is like this, the other one is more affectionate.
It’s more a case of me assuming that it’s obvious that it’s a stereotype. You might say I dropped an /s which in this case has a different meaning.
Maybe, but either way expect some people to call out when stereotypes aren't very accurate.
Yeh, it was totally justified.
Especially if we've been away longer our cat will just go nuts for us for days. Even just coming home from work she'll come say hello and maybe give us a couple roll-arounds to greet us. I get that it's not quite as obvious as dogs though and previous cats I've had were not so affective.
When my wife comes home from work, I tell her that the dogs are glad she is back from being gone forever again because she's gone forever and is never coming back every day.
The dogs know she's been gone forever because they counted. My pupper does the same 😭
"master"
I think they see us as family members more than masters
Yeah, “master/subject” is a bummer of a way to think about your relationship with your pet
I think they see us as gods. That's why they get so upset when we can't do what they expect us to do something magical.
When you forget your wallet and come back after being gone 2 minutes.
I was freaking about to cry at first haha. Well done. 💗
Right?! I was like "OH no. I haven't even finished my coffee yet. I am NOT ready to start my day this way!" 🤣
Cat version by the one and only the Kiffness: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLLFbC1H0c0
The burden of the obsequious.
Indeed…shallow, and pedantic.
"The dog got in the food drawer again... and do the dishes!"
I just adopted a dog that was breeding stock in a puppy mill. She bonded to me right away but has major separation anxiety. Even if I'm gone for 5 minutes, she goes nuts when I get back and acts like I've been gone for months.
That made me think of That Garfield comic
That the Futurama episode.
I read somewhere that on average 1 day of our life equates to 1 week for our beloved pups. I think of this everytime I'm feeling too lazy to engage with mine.
That's as far as life expectancy goes, not in perception of time.
Fair point and I understand it. I simply meant that it is another data point that moves my emotions when I think about dogs general experience, like this comic highlights. Maybe too esoteric of a share lol.
Dogs sleep 16 hours per day. Imagine…
I try to remember that every day and cherish and spend time with her so that when it's finally time for her to move on, I have no regrets that I could have done more.
Replace "master", which is creepy and subservient, with "friend".
I agree that it is creepy and subservient... but it is also entirely accurate. The dog is a pet. It is entirely reliant on the owner, and it is only allowed to do what the owner lets it do. It eats when the owner tells it to. It goes outside only when the owner says so. It probably even had its genitals removed at the request of the owner.
So yeah, 'master' is an appropriate word here.
I find it a bit uncomfortable too, which is why I don't have a pet. But from what I can tell, dogs are generally fine with this arrangement. Most dogs seem to like it this way.
Will do, master.
Call me weird, but I will never understand the compulsion to imbue these barely sentient creatures with human-like sapience.
It is okay to love and appreciate your pet, but it is fucking weird to project human characteristics on them.
Your dog isn't thinking thoughts like this. Your dog can't think thoughts like this.
This is masturbatory, purely self-serving self-worship ascribed to an animal.
You're weird
seems like you’re having a hard time
Yes, anything other than purely unadulterated gushing love and adoration of dogs and dog culture is automatically miserly humbugging, obviously.
No, it's the general air of sociopathy and just kinda being an ass that no one likes.
Did you know that some humans don't think with words? Do you believe they're barely sentient as well?
The issue is sapience, not sentience. To imply that even a stupid human, a sapient being, is in any way comparable to the intelligence of a dog is offensive
So you're saying dogs are incapable of acquiring knowledge or wisdom? They're born and die at the same intellectual level?
I'm saying they're capable of minimal animal-level intelligence, not human-like sapience implying higher thought. I believe this to be fact, not subjective opinion.
Other animal's intelligence is clearly different form human's, but every study they do on the intelligence of animals shows them to be more intelligent and closer to us than was previously thought. You assuming to understand the experience of dogs is, like you said, belief. You should have just stopped there though, because your belief is just that, a belief, not a fact.
I see the comic as an attempt to translate the existential stress a dog "feels" to the human experience, especially it's intensity. Because even with no language, no consciousness as humans have it, dogs do experience intensity you could measure in cortisol levels, heartbeat, eye movement etc.
The comic is useful for those who are interested in translating that to human experience. A communicative form that works well is narrative framing. It gives your empathy a correspondant in your conscious thinking.
What's with your dog/dog-parent hate? Just a vocal cat person, or...
I like dogs. I dislike anthropomorphizing pets and unduly imbuing them with humanity. I take issue with modern dog culture that does just that, teaching people that dogs are "family" rather than encouraging normal and healthy human-pet relationships. You can and should love your dog, but like a dog, not like it was your human child.
👆 This person shouldn't care for a dog
Yeah. This is the type of person who chains his "outside dog" up in the backyard without water on hot days.
My dog is family. He comes everywhere possible, shops, restaurants, holidays etc.
I don't support cruelty to dogs. I think it's fucked up to have them chained up alone outside, to leave in a hot car, any of that. I just also think it's fucked up to carry them around in your purse in public settings were dogs are clearly unwelcomed. I think when you accept the responsibility of having a pet you're accepting the responsibility of making sure all that pet's needs, including for attention and affection, are met. This is healthy approach to dog ownership.
You're referencing extremes while trying to deflate the average. Most people do not carry their dogs in a purse. My pets are my family. I do not carry them around in a purse.