We come pre-built with a TON of instinct that initially drives our behaviour but we can override those with some information and effort by our big brains.
Perhaps I should have said it differently. After decades of being a vegetarian, I went plant-based for the environment, then fairly quickly went vegan, because I started caring about animals a lot more.
I don’t know if that’s just as obvious, but I was definitely surprised.
You're welcome! I don't know why it's so uncommon knowledge that pasta is just 2 ingredients, but this isn't the first occurrence I told someone that didn't know :P
I make Chef John's tomato sauce which is not vegan as it has anchovies but could be made so by skipping them. It is delicious.
While I do like a good pasta with just tomato sauce, I tend to love more complex ones most of which have something else in it that is not vegan unfortunately. Pasta itself would contain eggs (maybe dried pasta uses some vegan friendly substitute?)
If you cut out all of the pastas that have eggs, cheese, butter, milk, meat, shellfish, or fish (anchovies) then you’re cutting out the vast majority of restaurant pastas and the majority of pasta recipes you’ll find in recipe books unless they’re specifically vegan (restaurants or books).
Personally, I don't see how forcibly impregnating cows and then taking their newborns away as soon as they are born in order to ensure we get all the milk could be considered cruel. Everyone knows that all non-human animals are simply automata with no ability to experience emotions. Cows, like dogs or cats, have no ability to feel so we can do anything we want to them.
Also, veal couldn't exist without our wonderful dairy industry. Think of all those veal steaks you'd get rid of without the newborn males to slaughter from the dairy industry.
Vegans object to all forms of animal exploitation, and raising animals to take their eggs still involves a degree of that. Even in the most benign cases of free range, well taken care of chickens in the world, chickens have still been bred to lay an unnatural number of eggs, which is very hard on their bodies, and that's being exploited by farming them for eggs.
For anyone who buys eggs instead, know that the animals are not kept in these benign conditions. Even 'free range' factory farmed chickens are kept in small enclosures, with only a small window to the outside. There are no store bought eggs that can remotely be considered ethical.
I did start caring more about animals after I went vegan. I was never frying ants for fun, but I also never got sad about petting zoos, for example.
So hey, maybe it’s more common that people adopt a moral system that makes meat seem less like food no matter how they start out.
Yes, of course that would be the case.
We come pre-built with a TON of instinct that initially drives our behaviour but we can override those with some information and effort by our big brains.
Perhaps I should have said it differently. After decades of being a vegetarian, I went plant-based for the environment, then fairly quickly went vegan, because I started caring about animals a lot more.
I don’t know if that’s just as obvious, but I was definitely surprised.
What's non-vegan about pasta?
Semolina flour and water? Is that not the ultimate vegan food?
May I introduce you to the concept of cheese?
I mean, that's added to the pasta after, the pasta itself is just flour and water, cooked in salt water.
Whatever you do to it AFTER THAT, well, that's on you. ;) I personally don't do cheese. Not vegan or lactose intolerant, I just don't like cheese.
There are plenty of pasta sauces that don't involve meat, dairy or eggs.
Hhmmm... Spoiled cow tiddy juice. How can anyone forget
hello.
its acktually spoiled filtered cow blood and it is delicious.
I'm allergic though, and thus very appreciative of the vegan community for having alternatives.
Flour, water and egg yolks.
Most dried pasta is vegan, though. Unless specifically buying egg pasta.
I wouldn't have ever checked the ingredients on dried pasta if you didn't tell me this. Thanks.
You're welcome! I don't know why it's so uncommon knowledge that pasta is just 2 ingredients, but this isn't the first occurrence I told someone that didn't know :P
I think OP was referring to what goes ON said pasta
I make Chef John's tomato sauce which is not vegan as it has anchovies but could be made so by skipping them. It is delicious.
While I do like a good pasta with just tomato sauce, I tend to love more complex ones most of which have something else in it that is not vegan unfortunately. Pasta itself would contain eggs (maybe dried pasta uses some vegan friendly substitute?)
I think my blood is 50% noodles by now, I frickin love pasta.
If you cut out all of the pastas that have eggs, cheese, butter, milk, meat, shellfish, or fish (anchovies) then you’re cutting out the vast majority of restaurant pastas and the majority of pasta recipes you’ll find in recipe books unless they’re specifically vegan (restaurants or books).
I'm talking about the pasta itself, not the finished dishes. What you do to the pasta after it's cooked is where the non-vegan part comes in.
The noodles themselves? Wheat flour and water.
The finished dish is called pasta. The basic component you’re talking about is noodles.
It's both:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pasta
many sauces require some sort of meat, cheese or other animal products (eggs, etc)
That's not the fault of the pasta though. ;)
Skill issue
Depends how you handle it! I live off a diet of party poppers and fireworks, and I think it's a blast.
@bridge nothing as fun as abusing animals ammirite
Marinara pizzas are awesome. And I'm not even vegan
GIVE ME THE PIZZA, PRECIOUS
Vegetarian diet could be animal cruelty free.
Not according to vegans, simply collecting eggs or milk is "abuse" and "rape" I'm told.
Personally, I don't see how forcibly impregnating cows and then taking their newborns away as soon as they are born in order to ensure we get all the milk could be considered cruel. Everyone knows that all non-human animals are simply automata with no ability to experience emotions. Cows, like dogs or cats, have no ability to feel so we can do anything we want to them.
Also, veal couldn't exist without our wonderful dairy industry. Think of all those veal steaks you'd get rid of without the newborn males to slaughter from the dairy industry.
Ladies, theydies, and gentlemen: exhibit A.
When did I use either word you're talking about? I'm here in support of the milk industry!
Apparently tons of deer are killed to prevent them from reaching fruit crops... no diet is 100% animal cruelty free
I punch a dog whenever I eat a salad, just in case.
Vegans object to all forms of animal exploitation, and raising animals to take their eggs still involves a degree of that. Even in the most benign cases of free range, well taken care of chickens in the world, chickens have still been bred to lay an unnatural number of eggs, which is very hard on their bodies, and that's being exploited by farming them for eggs.
For anyone who buys eggs instead, know that the animals are not kept in these benign conditions. Even 'free range' factory farmed chickens are kept in small enclosures, with only a small window to the outside. There are no store bought eggs that can remotely be considered ethical.
I know you will, hon.
Me too, sometimes they're real hard to push out, sometimes they shoot out liquidy and make me sweat, either way it can be a lot of work.