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lemmy.world

Self-hosted and locally run models also goes a long way. 90% of LLMs applications don't require users to surrender their devices, data, privacy and security to big corporations. But that is exactly how the space is being run right now.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

The alternative is only supporting self hosted LLMs, though, right?

Imagine the scenario: you're a visually impaired, non-technical user. You want to use the alt-text generation. You're not going to go and host your own LLM, you're just going to give up and leave it.

In the same way, Firefox supports search engines that sell your data, because a normal, non-technical user just wants to Google stuff, not read a series of blog posts about why they should actually be using something else.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ah, I missed that alt text specifically is local, but the point stands, in that allowing (opt-in) access to a 3rd party service is reasonable, even if that service doesn't have the same privacy standards as Mozilla itself

To pretty much every non-technical user, an AI sidebar that won't work with ChatGPT (Google search's equivalent from my example previously) may as well not be there at all

They don't want to self host an LLM, they want the box where chat gpt goes

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lemmy.ml

If it was truly opt-in, it could be an extension. They should not be bundling this with the browser, bloating it more in the process.

The extension API doesn't have enough access for this.

You technically can run your own local AI, but they hook up to the big data-hungry ones out of the box.

While it is opt-in and disabled by default, this is the real problem.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Mozilla isn't in charge of the extension API, it uses Chromium's WebExtensions API

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Yeah, just create an entirely new, incompatible extension engine from scratch for this one feature specifically!

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Look at the Firefox subreddit. One month ago, people were criticizing the thought of adding AI to Firefox. Two months ago, same thing. Look at the Firefox community. See how many times people requested AI.

I believe what most people are concerned about, including myself, was the AI features being enabled automatically and then having to disable it like every other application would do to inflate metrics.

Because this is opt in like it says in the blog I am ok with it there and disabled.

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Will you need your own account for the proprietary ones? Mozilla paying for these feels like it couldn't be sustainable long term, which is worrying.

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lemmy.world

But what does it DO? How is it actually useful? An accessibility PDF reader is nice, but AI can do more than that

Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral

This is great, but again, what for?

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lemmy.zip

A lot of people use llms a lot, ao its useful for them, but its also nice for summarizing long articles you dont have the time to read, not as good as reading it, but better than skimming jt

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lemmy.zip

It lets you use any model, so while it lets you use chatgpt, it also lets you use a self-hosted model if you edit about:config

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lemmy.world

But what does using that in my browser get me? If I’m running llama2, I can already copy and paste text into the terminal if I want. Is this just saving me that step?

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Theyre adding an opt-in alt text generation for blind people

No, that's not useful at all, but Mozilla refused to listen to the blind community.

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