Saw a teen tell Tim Cook kids in his school were being bullied over not necessarily one hue vs. another shade but presumably the degraded functionality (simplified as “green bubbles”).
Group chats are so huge - and including one non-Apple user means nobody gets bells & whistles.
It’s absolutely ridiculous! But it’s hard to argue - it’s happening, making less money would stop it, but money matters more than kids.
You said it yourself, group chats suck when Android users are involved. So Android users aren't added to the class group chat and they miss out on sharing notes, events, and much of social interaction with their peers.
Apple Intelligence. The image generation and bullshit text generator aspects I’m over (although Genmoji looks cute), but the ability to process complex natural language requests using an on-device LLM so I can perform tasks via voice without laborious specificity?
I’m in. If they nail this it will be the biggest leap forward in human-computer interaction since the GUI.
The other features I already like in DB1 aren’t on this feature slide either:
The new Calendar app with a proper multi-day view is great and has already replaced the “list” view I’ve used since 2009. I like “list” but it makes every day look busy visually, and makes it difficult to see gaps in your day.
New Calculator app finally has most features people would like. Multi line, easy editing of mistakes, a history, etc. They only talked about the handwritten stuff for iPad in the keynote but the whole thing is vastly improved across all iOS platforms.
This one is on the slide but the new Photos app is great, although some don’t like it I found most features in Photos were buried and people never used the tabs in the app, just scrolling down to see everything actually works quite well. Most users seem to think that the first tab is the only one you need to use and everything else is just settings and whatnot so it’s best to just adapt to that at this point.
RCS, Better Home Screen and Control Center customization, finally getting locked and hidden apps on iOS as Android has had those for years! The Photos update is pretty good, in addition to Lock Screen customization.
iOS devices would be actually good if they literally just let you install .ipa s from anywhere (.apk equivelent for iOS). Not even unlocking the APIs that ensure Apple apps stay on top, just allowing .ipa installation.
What IPAs do you want to install? This is a real question, I know there are a handful of apps that you need to install from outside the App Store but over the years as restrictions have loosened that has dropped to almost nothing for me.
I used to install nzbUnity which has been fully replaced by LunaSea at this point, and with the rule change allowing emulators they really took a ton of wind out of the sails of the 3rd party App Store push.
That’s true I suppose, but there pretty much isn’t anything I’m like “damn I wish that was on iOS but Apple’s rules won’t allow it” anymore.
I can think of a few examples that I have on my Android phone. TouchHLE, Mario 64 decompiled and Yuzu come to mind. But those are just fun to play with and not exactly things I care deeply about.
Just to be clear, this didn’t used to be the case. I used to jailbreak & sideload for years. But I just… don’t need to anymore. It’s all there. I figured it was worth asking if there was something I didn’t know I was missing.
Not only that, there is an upside too. The fact that IPAs can’t be easily installed on iOS drastically reduces piracy, and companies are more apt to release non-ad-supported, premium titles on the platform.
I have RE Village, RE4 and Death Stranding on my phone right now. I don’t see those coming to Android any time soon. So I would say it’s a double-edged sword.
Doesn’t have much appeal if you pay for YT Premium. I also used to sideload Cercube so I get the appeal, but yeah. I would count that in the category of “++” apps that pretty much exist to circumvent ads or avoid paying for subscriptions.
I don’t have anything against them but it doesn’t help the image of open access being only useful for piracy or avoiding paying for stuff.
I think there was an internal rule change a while back because there are a few others as well. Ruddarr is shaping up every well, and LunaSea has been there for years now.
Does anyone else have this problem: Some messages only showing up for iPhone users in the group SMS chat? For example someone will answer a question that the Android users never see. Then those questions randomly show up a week later for Android users? Hopefully RCS will fix that.
Satellite connectivity isn't offered on iPhone models purchased in Armenia, Belarus, China mainland, Hong Kong, Macao, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and Russia.
Apparently no paid agreements to use satellite around those regions.
I never got into fidget spinners, but having parallax on my iPhone’s Home Screen probably had a similar effect for me. I’d just play with it every once in a while and enjoyed it. I’ve always been mindful of battery drain, but I consciously made an exception for parallax.
All of that has been fixed in the iOS 18 calculator, they just didn’t talk about it in the keynote. It has history, multi-line, and your can place the cursor anywhere and edit expressions.
Give it a shot, you might be pleasantly surprised.
Lots of updates coming to the ios calculator with ios18. They obviously focused on the ipad version because it has the written math notes stuff, but a lot of those features are coming to the iphone, too.
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RCS, I suppose, so we can stop hearing about it.
grEen BuBbLes = cYbeR bUllYIng
Chat bubble classism/racism is unacceptable
TIL that Android phone users are a new racial category.
(Not sure if sarcasm)
Android phones are cheaper upfront that then leads to the people of colour often using them in the global south
And people of whiteness in the global north, as well.
It actually kind of is
Literally nobody cares what colour your bubbles are.
What is annoying is how group chats suck when people on android are involved.
I’m mostly looking forward to that being fixed
You a teen in the US?
Saw a teen tell Tim Cook kids in his school were being bullied over not necessarily one hue vs. another shade but presumably the degraded functionality (simplified as “green bubbles”).
Group chats are so huge - and including one non-Apple user means nobody gets bells & whistles.
It’s absolutely ridiculous! But it’s hard to argue - it’s happening, making less money would stop it, but money matters more than kids.
Oh get off it. This is “video games cause school shootings” levels of wrongness
I just don’t think you and I are the people who see this stuff.
When it comes to video games and violence, you have to try - try to draw lines.
What kind of line needs to be drawn to deduce “who’s green?” is related to a feature?
You said it yourself, group chats suck when Android users are involved. So Android users aren't added to the class group chat and they miss out on sharing notes, events, and much of social interaction with their peers.
Hmm it’s like I missed the second half of your comment earlier… we agree on functionality being more important than color.
I don’t think “color” would ever have been an issue with feature parity.
Sorry 4 misreading this I think
Why does this sub exist? To shit on Apple? Literally all the comments are neckbeards complaining about this or that. Wtf?
Because it keeps showing up on /all and the apple haters just can’t help themselves. People enjoying things drives them insane.
Look at all these kids having a good time! Not on my watch!!! 🙃
Maybe with the new watch OS it could be on your watch too!
Not a neckbearder and not really a hater, but oh my god I fear the day my family's group chat finds out about text effects.
Nah this community shills for Apple too much
I don’t think that word means what you think it means
I rather have a real firefox browser.
And uBlock Origin🤤
Well Japan has your back now!
None, still waiting for third party stores.
Cries in non-European
Auto sorting in Mail, to be honest.
Apple recreating Google Inbox would be an ultimate power move.
Apple Intelligence. The image generation and bullshit text generator aspects I’m over (although Genmoji looks cute), but the ability to process complex natural language requests using an on-device LLM so I can perform tasks via voice without laborious specificity?
I’m in. If they nail this it will be the biggest leap forward in human-computer interaction since the GUI.
The other features I already like in DB1 aren’t on this feature slide either:
Well said!
RCS, Better Home Screen and Control Center customization, finally getting locked and hidden apps on iOS as Android has had those for years! The Photos update is pretty good, in addition to Lock Screen customization.
No mention of the calculator app on iPadOS smh
Because this is the ios screen and there is a seperate one for iPadOS? Or am I missing the joke?
I took it as a funny
Locked apps! All the porn, and all the incriminating evidence of my affair. Thank u Tim Apple! Very cool.
Jealous partners and judgmental family are going to have a harder time.
iOS devices would be actually good if they literally just let you install .ipa s from anywhere (.apk equivelent for iOS). Not even unlocking the APIs that ensure Apple apps stay on top, just allowing .ipa installation.
What IPAs do you want to install? This is a real question, I know there are a handful of apps that you need to install from outside the App Store but over the years as restrictions have loosened that has dropped to almost nothing for me.
I used to install nzbUnity which has been fully replaced by LunaSea at this point, and with the rule change allowing emulators they really took a ton of wind out of the sails of the 3rd party App Store push.
IDK there aren't that many because iOS doesn't allow it.
That’s true I suppose, but there pretty much isn’t anything I’m like “damn I wish that was on iOS but Apple’s rules won’t allow it” anymore.
I can think of a few examples that I have on my Android phone. TouchHLE, Mario 64 decompiled and Yuzu come to mind. But those are just fun to play with and not exactly things I care deeply about.
Just to be clear, this didn’t used to be the case. I used to jailbreak & sideload for years. But I just… don’t need to anymore. It’s all there. I figured it was worth asking if there was something I didn’t know I was missing.
Not only that, there is an upside too. The fact that IPAs can’t be easily installed on iOS drastically reduces piracy, and companies are more apt to release non-ad-supported, premium titles on the platform.
I have RE Village, RE4 and Death Stranding on my phone right now. I don’t see those coming to Android any time soon. So I would say it’s a double-edged sword.
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Doesn’t have much appeal if you pay for YT Premium. I also used to sideload Cercube so I get the appeal, but yeah. I would count that in the category of “++” apps that pretty much exist to circumvent ads or avoid paying for subscriptions.
I don’t have anything against them but it doesn’t help the image of open access being only useful for piracy or avoiding paying for stuff.
I don't pay for YT premium or really anything. They still show promotions "Get YouTube TV 🥺🥺🥺" to subscribers. And all the tracking, etc.
Wow Apple must’ve accidentally accepted this one heh
I think there was an internal rule change a while back because there are a few others as well. Ruddarr is shaping up every well, and LunaSea has been there for years now.
They would be android devices, then.
So no. They wouldn't be good.
RCS support
Does anyone else have this problem: Some messages only showing up for iPhone users in the group SMS chat? For example someone will answer a question that the Android users never see. Then those questions randomly show up a week later for Android users? Hopefully RCS will fix that.
The one that’s not shown: Standalone Passwords app
Yes!
Eh on Mac it looks like a downgrade to keychain
The satellite thing will save lives
Great feature. Will note they did have emergency satellite messages before, iPhone 14/15.
Hmm in most countries:
Apparently no paid agreements to use satellite around those regions.
Can’t wait for great dictation (please! 🤞)
Definitely Emoji Tapbacks
RCS, Statelite and Locked Apps.
Control screen customization I guess? Maybe the hiking thing? (But like there are already decent 3rd party apps for that…)
Not listed, but Music Haptics. I’m joking, but it’s a thing now. Super glitchy to activate in beta 1.
The new homescreen grid for sure.
The new Quick Settings, reminder integration in Calendar, maybe the coloured Icons
You should try FantastiCal
So apparently parallax is quietly coming back? I’ve decided that’s now the thing I’m most excited for.
Heh disabled that so didn’t know it was gone
Battery was one reason, probably minimal of course. Might not’ve appreciated effect too, can’t remember now, would re-try
I never got into fidget spinners, but having parallax on my iPhone’s Home Screen probably had a similar effect for me. I’d just play with it every once in a while and enjoyed it. I’ve always been mindful of battery drain, but I consciously made an exception for parallax.
So many features, yet the calculator is still a piece of shit. What's the thing with Apple? Is it THAT hard to make something like this: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/calc-smart-calculator/id576675190
Something decent that actually shows you the entire expression with the ability to place the cursor anywhere to edit previously inserted numbers?
I just don't get it, their calculator is the most useless thing ever, you type a number, hit "+" and the number is gone.
No shame in leaving room for third party apps. I don’t really expect the built-ins to be all encompassing…
I fucking do if you can't install whatever you want.
You might want to check out Android
I am on Android
Nice!
Why am I getting down voted? What did I do?
All of that has been fixed in the iOS 18 calculator, they just didn’t talk about it in the keynote. It has history, multi-line, and your can place the cursor anywhere and edit expressions.
Give it a shot, you might be pleasantly surprised.
No, it hasn’t. It’s certainly better but not up to what the other one I liked is able to do.
I said the complaints you listed had fixed in the new one. I didn’t say it was suddenly as good as a dedicated calculator app.
Lots of updates coming to the ios calculator with ios18. They obviously focused on the ipad version because it has the written math notes stuff, but a lot of those features are coming to the iphone, too.
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/11/ios-18-calculator-these-conversions/
The current calculator has had a lot more options if you turn the phone sideways, but no one ever does that. Personally, I'm a pCalc guy.
They want you to buy the app for that 30% commission.
Devious
Did apple maps really not support walking until now?!
Hiking ≠ walking
They had walking directions probably from the start, but there’s new topographical map now.
They just invented the idea (10 year fanboy here) :(
Pixel 9
Can’t wait for Google to cancel Android and replace it with a messaging service.