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aussie.zone

Vape research is almost always terrible quality. Practically every study uses temperatures completely intolerable and unrealistic, they don't reflect ordinary use. That's not to say vaping is healthier than not vaping, but it obvious to see it's far safer than smoking

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Yeah, this study was basically just guessing how various chemicals break down under heat. The fact that they reference the EVALI bullshit tells me the study can be safely ignored.

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leminal.space

I suppose from a harm reduction standpoint the big question is: has vaping dropped chronic disease that has been traditionally linked to tobacco products or is it equally or more dangerous than traditional tobacco products? If it's reducing mortality and disease, then that's a good thing overall even it still poses some risk to long term health. Obviously you don't want to use traditional tobacco products or vape products if you want a healthy cardiovascular system.

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aussie.zone

Far safer, probably even with garbage quality import vapes. You can see when someone at your gym swaps from smoking to vaping, their performance skyrockets. Clear as day their lungs are working better. Shouldn't be a huge surprise given there is no tar when vaping

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lemmy.world

Far safer, agreed. After 20-years of smoking, I quit coughing within 3-weeks.

OTOH, I just quit vaping (10-years) and started the nicotine pouches. Game. Changed. I had no idea how bad vaping was for me. (That was bad for me personally. YMMV depending on several factors. I basically vaped like it was air.)

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aussie.zone

I assume you mean patches, not pouches haha

How long did it take to see improvement after you swapped to patches?

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lemmy.world

That’s better for your lungs, but far, FAR worse for mouth teeth and gums

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Careful, those things cause awful gum recession and potential tooth loss if you use them regularly

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lemmy.ml

I'm always wary of studies about products, but at least in this case the funding is governmental instead of private

D.W. acknowledges the Synthesis and Solid State Pharmaceutical Centre (SSPC) and Science foundation Ireland for funding support, Grant Number 12/RC/2275_P2

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Vapers and for that matter all tobacco users in this day and age are typically really poorly thought-out scum.

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