Instances have different purposes and for beehaw, maintaining community standards is more important to them then wider federation, they also explicitly said it was a bandwidth issue for their mod team, that as things settle and tools get better for modding within Lemmy itself they’ll reassess. I don’t find that particulary unusual but I’m also a Mastadon user and that’s very common over there
Exactly what I was thinking. For Lemmy being an alternative to Reddit, yet instances have closed registrations. That is a way to get people not to sign up.
Are you sure about that? I understood it the way that the defederation works in both directions.
You cant see the content from the other instance and they cant see yours.
Yeah, I even recently commented on a post of theirs from here not knowing we're cut out. Now it will hang on my profile, presumably reaching them never.
Hmm, I wonder what lemmygrad did to deserve the ban here? I see they are a pretty hardcore Marxist instance, but curious if it's just an ideology thingy with the admins here or if they did something to piss them off? It doesn't appear to be mutual lemmygrad shares this instance, and they have a TON of others banned lol
are they Marxist-Leninists (MLs)? like flagging Stalin etc and Communist Party stuff?
i'm a Marxist anarchist and i'm just wondering if fmhy is a good server for my social circle. banning Marxists is not a good look (upon first reaction)
I mean, you can go look at lemmygrad. I did when deciding which server to make an account on and found a bunch of people posting in support of current day not communist at all Russia. That goes beyond Marxism-Leninism into just supporting a neoliberal imperialist regime because it's not the American neoliberal imperialist regime.
Most instances publish their blocklists. Admins would be very angry if i would send a crawler to get lists of federated and blocked instances? It wouldn't load single instance too much. Just two files.
feddit.de does (https://feddit.de/instances) due to fmhy being open registration
although not blocked by beehaw despite them also not liking open registration
Blocking instances for having open registration is some of the weirder shit I have heard recently.
Edit: now that we have a bot problem I'm now against open registration and federating with instances with open registration lol
You won't like this then https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/59078 (I don't either)
2 questions.
Fmhy.ml is an entirely separate instance from Lemmy.ml right? Lil confused cuz those are the only ones I've seen ending in ml
What instance do we have blocked?
Eta: lemmygrad is the one blocked instance here, personally not gonna miss em.
yes entirely separate. unless the entire "lemmy.fmhy.ml" is identical its a difference instance
Yeah, I read it before seeing this post
Will fmhy also defederate beehaw?
No, we'll only block extreme instances.
Instances have different purposes and for beehaw, maintaining community standards is more important to them then wider federation, they also explicitly said it was a bandwidth issue for their mod team, that as things settle and tools get better for modding within Lemmy itself they’ll reassess. I don’t find that particulary unusual but I’m also a Mastadon user and that’s very common over there
Exactly what I was thinking. For Lemmy being an alternative to Reddit, yet instances have closed registrations. That is a way to get people not to sign up.
Looks like this is the only 'big' instance blocking us so far. It feels weird, but I guess this is something we'll need to get used to
Not anymore, apparently
Thanks for this. It's a bit too complicated, hopefully at some point the info will be just available
feddit.de (users active last day = 641)
civilloquy.com (users active last day = 1)
thesimplecorner.org (users active last day = 1)
Thank you :)
That would be nice, since I chose FMHY as my main instance.
If someone blocks fmhy, do they block “us” as in we can’t see their server or do they just block the posts originating from fmhy?
we can see feddit.de but they cannot see us
Are you sure about that? I understood it the way that the defederation works in both directions.
You cant see the content from the other instance and they cant see yours.
Yeah, I even recently commented on a post of theirs from here not knowing we're cut out. Now it will hang on my profile, presumably reaching them never.
you can see for yourself that we see feddit.de stuff: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/131623
That's a good question
I find this hard to navigate and use, but this should be able to show which instances block fmhy: https://lemmymap.feddit.de/
You can see what instances FMHY blocks by clickling the "instances" link at the bottom of the page (or just here: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/instances)
Hmm, I wonder what lemmygrad did to deserve the ban here? I see they are a pretty hardcore Marxist instance, but curious if it's just an ideology thingy with the admins here or if they did something to piss them off? It doesn't appear to be mutual lemmygrad shares this instance, and they have a TON of others banned lol
it's not that they're hardcore marxists but that they are tankies, you can find a lot of discussions about this out there
Ideologically consistent Marxists, even tankies, wouldn't support the capitalist imperialism of modern Russia.
are they Marxist-Leninists (MLs)? like flagging Stalin etc and Communist Party stuff?
i'm a Marxist anarchist and i'm just wondering if fmhy is a good server for my social circle. banning Marxists is not a good look (upon first reaction)
I mean, you can go look at lemmygrad. I did when deciding which server to make an account on and found a bunch of people posting in support of current day not communist at all Russia. That goes beyond Marxism-Leninism into just supporting a neoliberal imperialist regime because it's not the American neoliberal imperialist regime.
oo dam CCP propaganda etc. ya that's not commie shit. FMHY is fine for me.
If you check posts and comments here you will understand why they were blocked
Lemmygrad is blocked on all instances i have acc on this is 4 and growing.
hahaha this looks like a great idea, but I can't see sh*t in there :D
Not sure, I think the only way to know is to be an admin on the other instance (or if they say what instances are blocked)
Most instances publish their blocklists. Admins would be very angry if i would send a crawler to get lists of federated and blocked instances? It wouldn't load single instance too much. Just two files.