Spyke
lemm.ee

If this is his thought process, he should take it a step further.

French is just badly pronounced Latin.

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

My mother (who is french) describes the language as "Latin, but mumbled around a cigarette"

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nillocreply
discuss.tchncs.de

With more phlegm.

So what’s German then? A bunch of that overlaps with English words too from my recollection.

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lemmy.world

german is just language lego - you just keep building new words from old parts.

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But in this case French actually is Latin. English isn't a descendant of French, but French is derived mostly from Latin

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lemmy.ca

...English is only 30% or so French, and essentially just adjectives. Take out adjectives and we are German babies.

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literature.cafe

And most of the French has Germanic synonyms.

It's actually pretty fascinating to sit down with a work translated from Old to Middle to Modern English and see the language drift in action.

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WamGamsreply
lemmy.ca

I will have to try that sometime. What's a good piece of literature to look at that a beginner could visually make sense of?

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literature.cafe

Beowulf is probably the most relevant and easiest to find in various evolutions, you can also find spoken versions in Old, Middle, and modern. Chaucer's stories are also popular if you find the Old English too dense, Middle English is obviously a lot more approachable.

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lemm.ee

English is just a bunch of bludgeoned languages hiding under a trench coat, acting shady in the alleyway, I swear.

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Unironically linguistic victim blaming, given most of the "loanwords" were French forced onto the language by the Normans. Who were basically just French speaking Vikings anyways.

Then there there was the Renaissance and Enlightenment obsession with the "Classics" and now you have to say "per diem" instead of "by the day" or "daily pay"

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lemmy.world

Sure, there's plenty of French in English, but there's an English equivalent for most French words. We'd be fine eating cow instead of beef or pig instead of pork. It may sound a little strange but English should still be very usable if we removed the French root words.

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Don't show this to the sovereign citizens. They'll start declaring that any government document with borrowed words from a foreign language means you can't be court-martialed twice for the same offense due to habeas corpus.

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snf
lemmy.world

Someone tell the Quebec nationalists, maybe then we can concentrate on more important things than english-only trash cans

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Son_of_dadreply
lemmy.world

Quebec can't even speak proper French. I still remember the story of the French immigrant who failed the French test in Quebec. Btw Quebec makes you take a French test if you want to live there cause they're fascists. The rest of Canada should make them test in English before the leave Quebec.

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I remember a story awhile back where a French researcher or something wrote a whole paper in french, except one page was in english. Well the Quebequois fuzz apparently thought they couldn't speak french well enough.

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""Linguist"" as if French prescriptivists can seriously be called linguists

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Since language is in a constant state of flux and never quite settles in any solid form, ever changing and evolving. This linguist can fuck off....

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