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Israel bombs Iran's embassy in Syria, kills commanders says Iran

Suspected Israeli warplanes bombed Iran's embassy in Syria on Monday, a marked escalation in a war pitting Israel against its regional adversaries, and Tehran said the strike killed seven military advisers including three senior commanders.

Reuters reporters at the site in the Mezzeh district of Damascus saw emergency workers clambering atop rubble of a destroyed building inside the diplomatic compound, adjacent to the main embassy building. Emergency vehicles were parked outside. An Iranian flag hung from a pole by the debris.

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lemmy.ml

Okay, isn't bombing an embassy an absolutely insane escalation? Even throughout WW1, WW2, or any other war in the past century, no country was crazy enough to undermine the sanctity of diplomacy like this and antagonize everyone.

The only other time this has happened in history was when NATO bombed a Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1999, and even here the US — the most war-mongering nation on the planet — apologized, said it was a mistake (though it definitely wasn't — it was removed from the list of prohibited targets beforehand and struck 3 separate times), and paid for it to be rebuilt. Israel is completely unhinged.

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Carreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yes. This is generally agreed upon as being a terminal escalation.

Attacking diplomatic missions very quickly turns into no diplomacy between the two countries. This doesn’t leave many options other than military actions on the table.

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Do you think there's much daily diplomacy between Israel and Iran/Syria?

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lemmy.world

Okay, isn't bombing an embassy an absolutely insane escalation?

Yep. There's literally two countries in the world who could get away with it without causing a major diplomatic crisis if not downright war: Israel and the US.

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lemmy.id

Meh, I bet if Russia bomb some random embassies in Ukraine there would not be additional war.

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The US has commissioned entire offices devoted to ensuring striking an embassy doesn't happen again. Millions are spent every year to update the (surprisingly ever-changing) locations of embassies around the world so they don't make the same mistake in the future. Whatever the thought process was that "allowed" a strike then has been eliminated and then some.

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lemmy.world

Little nuance here, Syria and Iran don't get along, and Israel doesn't have any particular problem with Syria, they have a problem with a nominally Syrian area controlled by an Iranian backed militia. Syria will do nothing, probably thinks this is funny. Iran might.

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Reading the papers for years. You seem to think the Israelis were supplying Hezbollah in Syria and Lebanon, instead of Iran.

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Why is the Israel government putting their entire nation even more at risk than it already is? What is the end game here as surely the people living in Israel recognize escalation puts them at risk.

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They're confident in their backing and feel invincible. Lebanon, a small coastal neighbor with sites from ancient judea. Expanding into the territory is probably on their timeline.

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lemmy.ml

Israel is trying to create another six-day war. That's why they are trying to escalate it to neighboring countries. It's all a part of the Zionist land grab strategy. The current weakened state of Russia gives them an opportunity. Iran and Syria used to have a lot of military support from Russia. That may also be a reason for so much Israel receiving so much backing from the US.

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So the west supports bombing brown children to take some pressure off of white children.
That makes sense, unfortunately.

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Its gonna be different when its not a people living in a concentration camp retaliating against Israel. This has the potential to escalate very quickly.

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Don't you think the entire point of Hamas' attack was to escalate the conflict?

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lemmy.world

So they aren't even going to say why they hit an embassy. Thats ballsy. Is this the last straw that starts the secret cogs turning to get rid of top leadership. If anytime to start it would be now to prevent further escalation.

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lemmy.ml

They did it to try to broaden the conflict in hopes of drawing in direct military support from their western allies.

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The dude they killed was involved in coördinating weapon transfers to and strikes by pro-Iranian militias on Israel. It's weird they had so much restraint after Hamas' escalation and Hezbollah's support for it

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It has ramped up those strikes in parallel with its campaign against Iran-backed Palestinian group Hamas, which ignited the Gaza war with an Oct. 7 attack on Israel that killed about 1,200 people and took 253 hostage, according to Israeli tallies.

No, Israel has had an active blockade on Gaza since 2007. A blockade is an act of war.

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suppo.fi

Israel has maintained effective control over Gaza since their military occupation ended almost 20 years ago, and they have really been making the Palestinians suffer.

Based on these considerations, some experts have found that “siege” better describes the situation.

However, the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights has said “the majority of international opinion” holds that Israel maintains effective control, even without armed forces present. While legal experts acknowledge that the lack of a military presence does not follow the “traditional approach” to analyzing effective control, they find that military presence is an “evidentiary test only.” They point to authorities such as the Israeli High Court, which have held that occupation status hinges on the exercise of effective control. They, therefore, find that technology has made it possible for Israel to use ongoing force to exercise effective control—imposing authority and preventing local authorities from exercising control—without a military presence.

Specifically, experts from the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory found “noting” positions held by the UN Security Council, UNGA, a 2014 declaration adopted by the Conference of High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention, the ICRC, and “positions of previous commissions of inquiry,” that Israel has “control exercised over, inter alia, [Gaza’s] airspace and territorial waters, land crossings at the borders, supply of civilian infrastructure, including water and electricity, and key governmental functions such as the management of the Palestinian population registry.” They also point to “other forms of force, such as military incursions and firing missiles.”

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lemmy.world

On the one hand, bombing someones embassy is a crime (and i expect nothing lesd from this regime), on the other hand, killing IRGC Generals is the best thing that Israel has done in a long time.

Edit: Apparently it isnt clear: The IRGC is a terrorist organization responsible for bombing kurds, murdering opposition leaders and massacres in Sistan and Baluchistan. Their skin color is completely irrelevant for me, i will always celebrate the deaths of people who harmed my extended family.

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Yes, i am only endorse this because the generals werent white, not because the IRGC are systematically oppressing an entire country and have routinely bombed, tortured and murdered ethnic minorities in at home and abroad. Surely this is only motivated by racism.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Just a check, are all US embassies legit targets? I ask because the CIA is known to act out of them and the CIA is known for horrific acts that some might say generate terror.

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lemmy.world

Once again, i did not label them a legitimate target, i just celebrate the death of IRGC Generals. No, I dont want other embassy wprkers to die and i domt like this attack. If you wanna kill CIA agents in the field, you have my blessings.

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I was just curious. It wasn't a gotcha. I feel they, even the embassy workers, are valid targets when at an embassy.

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