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U.S. support for LGBTQ+ rights is declining after decades of support.

TLDW: Members of the right who were previously ambivalent/disapproving are shifting towards hate/fear.

Source study: https://www.prri.org/research/views-on-lgbtq-rights-in-all-50-states

@[email protected] gave a great explanation of potential bias in this news.

U.S. support for LGBTQ+ rights is declining after decades of support.https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-support-for-lgbtq-rights-is-declining-after-decades-of-support-heres-whyOpen linkView original on lemmy.today
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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

I just scanned because it wasn’t written for changes to stand out but it’s the headline that’s wrong.

I see a lot of lines like

Americans aged 18-29 show a gradual decrease in support for LGBTQ nondiscrimination laws over the last three years, declining from a peak of 83% in 2020 to 75% in 2023

Technically correct that support is declining, but it’s still a huge majority

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aodhsishaj
lemmy.world

Looks like this isn't the general population and just a subset of right leaning populations becoming radicalized. Which has been a general trend lately.

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BombOmOm
lemmy.world

It's a forseen reaction to activists no longer pushing for passive tolerance but rather active support.

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simplereply
lemm.ee

Actually good take. I've seen a lot of LGBT communities, especially online in the last few years, move towards an "us vs. them" mentality

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radrootreply
lemmy.world

Maybe it has something to do with the constant existential threat?

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alucardreply
sopuli.xyz

True, but two ideas can be correct. As a species when we’re divided we are arguably at our worst.

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Evkob (they/them)reply
lemmy.ca

As a species when we’re divided we are arguably at our worst.

Agreed, but it's ignorant (at best) to suggest that trans people are responsible for social division rather than the right-wing groups actively trying to eradicate trans people.

It'd be like blaming Jews for socially dividing Germany in the interwar era.

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alucardreply
sopuli.xyz

Smh. It was probably not smart to engage here. I really was trying to have a good faith conversation. I absolutely think that trans folks and LGBTQ+ and everyone else should absolutely be able to have every freedom and liberty to live their lives and pursue happiness without threats of any kind. Period.

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FabledAepitaphreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I feel like the Us vs. Them is kinda originating from the conservative Right though. Every radicalization is just met with more radicalization from the other party. At the end of the day, it's gay people who are being opressed.. and all right-wing people have to complain about are fairy tale propagandas from 4chan and the talking heads on Fox going on about the Trans Agenda converting kids to be gay, which isn't real.

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sugarfree
lemmy.world

Activists have been pushing things too far and now people are pushing back.

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stolyreply
lemmy.world

You sound like my brother who screams about how people should home school because it's so horrible that they teach children to hold respect for me as a person.

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Ioughttamowreply
kbin.run

Obviously it’s them thinking they deserve respect and safety!

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samus12345reply
lemmy.world

"First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season."

- MLK, 1963

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

Everyone jumping to downvote without considering.

  • if it’s your attitude, most here will disagree but you have a right to your opinion. They also have a right o try to talk you out of it
  • if you’re saying more people feel this way, it’s a legit idea that needs to be considered. People just don’t like change so the bigger the step forward, the more who will think it went too far
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