Spyke

So Vulkan is the hard truth and directX openGL is the easy life where everything just works? That has not been by experience at all.

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As a programmer, Vulkan is like OpenGL has decided to stop holding your hand and let you spread your wings. Learning curve is utterly brutal, but no more assumptions - you've complete control and everything is open to you.

As a user? Install Wine and DXVK, or just Proton that brings everything with it, enjoy everything just working better. Not really a tough decision.

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Except if you're X% of the population. The XX% though...

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just mentally visualise what you should be seeing based on the sound of your GPU fans

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feddit.ch

That's for webapps tho?

Please make simple webpages and apps not in web, webapps are bloated and software as a service is not future proof. Plus, they almost never work for me.

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sopuli.xyz

no, it's not. wgpu maps/translates calls to webgpu (duh) , webgl, opengl, gles, vulkan, dx11, software rendering etc depending on what platform it's running on.
it's a bit bloated since you're basically including code for all backends but whatever, final executables are still like 5 mb.
no web involved unless you want to

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pawb.social

wgpu is a Rust library. Using it from programs they are not written in Rust, such as Godot games, poses a significant challenge.

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sopuli.xyz

well there's also dawn for c++, which is also an implementation of webgpu.
wgpu also has official c/c++ bindings.

btw you probably don't need a low-level gpu library if you're already using a game engine...

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btw you probably don’t need a low-level gpu library if you’re already using a game engine…

the low level graphics library calls have to be implemented somewhere, don't they? if i'm one of the developers of the Godot engine, and I'm writing Godot in C++, I'm not going to use a Rust graphics library

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If your GPU supports vulkan then vulkan it is, if not, then opengl, examples of opengl usage is older cards or/and nouveau driver, not nvk, and they work on backporting nvk to older cards too so even older Nvidia cards gonna support Vulcan one day, so, use Vulcan if supported

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Btw, there's render=vulkan or something like that in Wine. But what does it do, force the app to use DirectX in vulkan mode or what?

edit: nope, it basically does the same as dxvk using wineD3D; translation to Vulkan instead of OpenGL, only slower but with less VRAM (useful for some old 32bit games).

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Unsure if the person to whom the choice is being offered is Adam Jensen or Gordon Freeman. 🤔

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