Spyke
lemmy.ca

How about we go back to the one where we applied a marginal tax rate of 90% to the rich?

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mozzreply
mbin.grits.dev

And 30+% union membership

And houses that cost 4x median income

And shooting Nazis

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feddit.de

How can you be so cruel? Those poor widdle Nazis have feelings too, you know?

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RubberDuckreply
lemmy.world

The modern rich are only rich on paper and in stock. For the rest they have debts that borrow against their stocks meaning they are still taxed at 0. This needs to be adressed as well then. Maybe by counting the cash out of such loans as realized gains or something.

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tax on unrealized gains based on the tax year those gains happen, same with losses.

Big win one year? awesome! pay taxes!

big loss next year? bummer! no taxes if you only lost money... but no carrying that shit over.

Imagine all that money which would have FLOODED the economy post-covid while people were poor as shit that would have wiped out the national debt which in no small part was from handouts to the 'welfare kings' with businesses that pocketed tons of free cash from dumpy's bailouts in covid times. Full circle could have been nice.

Instead we just get f'd.

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lemmy.world

The monkey's paw curls. Mark Robinson is transported back to the year 1900. Women can't vote. He is then promptly arrested and imprisoned for the crime of being a colored man in a whites-only establishment.

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korareply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Nah, the voters at best are uneducated and bandwagoners led by cheap group emotional manipulation (which is much easier to do to someone lacking an education)

Remember everyone, we've gotta live with these people after Trump and Biden go to live on the farm. We don't have the numbers to simplistically oppress them (wouldn't work for long if we did), or the desire to wipe them out (which, why would we want to become them). So we better start prepping ourselves for continuing life as equal citizens with people who voted for Trump.

(Especially if we're ever gonna get enough people on board with turning against actual ruiling class UwU)

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It’s a thought. And I’m happy to engage once they admit out loud that they were wrong to support a demented rapist fraud for president who was clearly incompetent. And, who tried to overthrow democracy.

Say that, and we’re back to talking again. Don’t and, well, lolno.

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It doesn't excuse them.

It does matter why they hold those opinions, unless you think its a good idea to not give them voting rights, in which case.... You have some interesting opinions.

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Ha - we wish! The infinite monkeys typing his babbling in his brain will absolutely get there. This guy is just not as mentally incapacitated, so he got there faster.

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Could be. Wouldn't surprise me. Also possible the grifters are being replaced with true believers.

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Ironically, aren't those the days where lynching was legal? Man, we have thee dumbest politicians.

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*most craven

He's probably making 6 figures by saying these things. A lot of people decide to sell out their social grouping for hard cash, this Uncle Ruckus motherfucker is just doing it in public and in a little more blatant / attention grabbing fashion than usual.

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I've read this guy also says African Americans should pay reparations to whites for bringing them to the Americas.

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This guy is quoted several times as saying that it was the Republicans who fought for social change. I wish someone in the audience had the balls to ask, "when you say Republicans, are you talking about liberals or conservatives?"

He's trying to take credit for liberal successes, while being in the conservative party. It'd be like if King Charles tried to take credit for the success of the Boston Tea Party because it was done by British colonists.

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Fuck I hate having to defend these assholes but if we're going to call them out on their bullshit it needs to be accurate. The quote is slightly taken out of context because he was inexplicably trying to dodge a question that wasn't presented to him.

He is IMO trying to say I want to go back to the period of time when women couldn't vote because back then people actually fought for those rights. That's a dumbass circular argument but I don't think he is actually saying he thinks women shouldn't vote.

Hang the things they actually mean to say around their neck, not stupid slips of the tongue.

All that said - fuck this guy and fuck Huffington post for their shitty articles.

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"The only thing worse than a woman who doesn’t know her place, is a man who doesn’t know his,” he wrote on Facebook in December 2017.

Perhaps I need to get my eyes checked, but.. Isn't he black? I shudder to think what a black man "knowing his place" in NC meant just a handful of years ago.

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Exactly. When these people tell you who they really are, believe them. They're not lying, they're not joking, they're not confused.

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Ok so in the larger picture this is probably exactly what he wants, but I still stand by my statement for this particular case.

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This is only the beginning with this guy. I’m not going to list any of it, but he said some absolutely awful things about many women, including Michelle Obama, Hilary Clinton, Oprah, Taylor Swift, AOC, Pelosi, and at least 15 other public figures. 😳

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Kecessareply
sh.itjust.works

And when you take it in context you now have to wonder why he's not a democrat or independent if fighting for social improvement is so important to him

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lemmy.world

Isnt that around the same time black people were not allowed to do uuhhh well anything? Bit weird

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Bakkodareply
sh.itjust.works

Better yet:

SOMEONE QUICK RETURN THIS MAN TO HIS OWNER.

See? Ya sound like a fuckin dick when ya say shit like that.

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You’re incorrectly assuming logic and reason are in play. They are not.

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Yeah, I wonder how he'd feel about walking it back further, to a time when black men also could not vote. Or maybe to a time when all blacks in this country were considered farm equipment. He sure likes to talk about how various groups of people should "know their place".

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EvilBitreply
lemmy.world

No, no, you see he has to be at the top so he can pull the ladder up behind him. That’s the whole point of being a Republican! You can’t make him go back to him being at the bottom with the poors and the women and, God forbid, the gays!

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MagicShelreply
programming.dev

Of course the gays did it. Their rainbows are a source of immense power - it can turn frogs gay, your children trans, make your wife leave you for another woman, and most cruelly force decent, heterosexual men to have sex with each other (no homo).

The greatest threat they pose is if we let them marry, becoming a sort of gay Voltron. Also unisex bathrooms are right out because we need to make sure that anyone holding their penis in their hand is in the same room together at the same time. That's super straight, just like highschool wrestling.

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What do you mean, I'm sure the 1920s were great for them! Oh wait maybe not

Maybe he was thinking of before that ... Yeah no I don't know, maybe he's thinking of a different "America?" Maybe South America has better history around then with regard to equality and peace in general. I'll, uh, leave that as an exercise to the reader 😅

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lemmy.world

Mark, I don't think you want to do that as a black man.

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lemmy.world

Bizarre? Republicans have been whining about women's suffrage for a long time now.

When women got the right to vote is when it all went down hill

-Rush Limbaugh, 2012

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I wish hell was real. I hate knowing these people lived a full life and got away with all the suffering they've caused...

Except instead of a real hell for the people that deserve it all we get is hell on earth that these people create for us to suffer in. :/

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There's nothing bizarre about this you bunch of shitty ass journalists. This type of bullshit has always been part and parcel of the Republican party.

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I've seen other clips of him. He is evil and anti-black with self-hate issues. The ideal GOP guy.

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Robinson said he would definitely return to the days in America when women were denied the right to vote “because in those days we had people who fought for real social change, and they were called Republicans.”

Yes, because that was before the Republican party became enshittified by Goldwater’s Southern Strategy. Those same people who fought for social change back then would be Democrats now.

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I love the irony when Republicans try to claim they're the party of Lincoln while also raising Confederate flags and trying to disenfranchise minorities.

Notice they never say it was "conservatives" who did this good thing in the past. They always say "Republican" when talking about good things in the past, all while using "liberal" as a slur in the present.

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He just needs a ponytail n a salmon shirt n hell straight up be uncle Ruckus.

No relation

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I've had female relatives mad when the churches they attended started letting women vote in church matters. So I'm guessing about like that. Self hate is such a warm little cocoon once you cut off the parts of yourself that it demands.

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lemmy.world

“because in those days we had people who fought for real social change, and they were called Republicans.”

This room full of women was quiet as he spoke, though a faint “That’s right” could be heard when Robinson later said Republicans ended Jim Crow laws.

There's a non-outrage-inducing non-headline grabbing logic here that is him saying he wishes republicans were more liberal

It's very different from saying "I don't think women should be allowed to vote"

If the masses can't distinguish between these two concepts (they certainly cannot) then it is what it is. Pillory the guy, I don't give an F, I wouldn't have voted a republican in to a leadership position anyway due to the party's policies and issues that are systemic.

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Betchreply
lemmy.world

“If blacks should stand up against racism, and women should stand up against sexism....shouldn’t men stand up against feminism?” he posted on Sept. 20, 2016.

That same day, he also wrote, “I am REALLY sick of feminism and feminist. They are just as bad, if not worse, than racist.”

There’s plenty more to revisit with Robinson’s attacks on women, including calling them “whores,” “witches” and “rejected drag queens.” There’s also his record of quoting Adolf Hitler, fanning Islamophobia, saying trans people should be arrested for using bathrooms, casting doubts on the Holocaust and spreading countless dangerous conspiracy theories.

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lemmy.world

No one is saying he isn’t a garbage human, they’re saying the headline for the article is rage-bait.

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It is and it kinda isn't?

He didn't explicitly say he wanted to go back to women not being able to vote but he might as well have if you take every other fucked up thing he's said into account.

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jballsreply
sh.itjust.works

There's a non-outrage-inducing non-headline grabbing logic here that is him saying he wishes republicans were more liberal

I posted this above, but it makes more sense in a reply to what you said. I wish someone in the audience had the balls to ask, "when you say Republicans, are you talking about liberals or conservatives?"

He's trying to take credit for liberal successes, while being in the conservative party. It'd be like if King Charles tried to take credit for the success of the Boston Tea Party because it was done by British colonists.

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I wish someone in the audience had the balls to ask, “when you say Republicans, are you talking about liberals or conservatives?”

Even if you got them to ask this, they'd immediately get defensive because liberal is a bad word to them simply because it means having something in common with the opposition party to them. The true meaning is lost once you get into a public political context today. Just more manipulation of language to suit keeping public opinion of their voters being on their side after consultants or analysts figure out what engages people the most.

Also after reading about this guy on wikipedia, he seems like a real piece of work. Not too surprising since you're required to master doublespeak in all political and leadership roles to be successful today.

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Interestingly, right before this the article says

During this event, Robinson, who was running for lieutenant governor at the time, recalled someone recently asking conservative activist Candace Owens to pick which version of America would make America “great again,” one where “Black people were swinging from cheap trees” or one where women weren’t allowed to vote.

Anyway. Article is from Huffpost so of course it's got outrage headlines (and usually has rather biased reporting).

That said, fuck the GOP.

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lemmy.world

Maybe we should take away men’s political franchisement based on gender. Just as a change of pace instead. /s

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Wait are other people getting paid to dunk on you? I’m just doing it because it’s easy and fun.

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Removed, repeated rule 6, Misogyny.

"No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning"

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Removed, rule 6, Misogyny.

"No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning"

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