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Kittenish21: I refuse to believe that people’s vr headsets burn this easily, I’ve had 5 headsets and always have the curtains open, none of them have ever burned at all before, you have to be doing this on purpose

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DrunkenGerbils: Meta themselves warns that this can happen. You're extremely lucky if you've been leaving your Quest in direct sunlight. You must be leaving it in a position where the sunlight isn't hitting the inside lenses. That's what causes the problem, the outside camera lenses aren't affected by sunlight. The inside lenses act like a magnifying glass and can very easily burn the screens behind them in under a minute when exposed to direct sunlight. Here's the quote copy and pasted directly from Meta's website

"Don't store or leave your headset anywhere where it can be exposed to sunlight. The lenses inside your headset can be permanently damaged from less than a minute of exposure to direct sunlight even if it's indoors."

here's a link to the warning on Meta's website.

https://www.meta.com/help/quest/articles/headsets-and-accessories/product-care-and-best-practices/avoiding-sunlight-damage/

I highly recommend you stop leaving your headsets anywhere they are exposed to direct sunlight.

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boisteroushams: back in 2016 one of the first warnings we got about vr headsets is that it's a no-go to leave them in the sun because of this issue

eight years later and people forgot? or never learned to begin with? idk

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fascistforlife: Was the window open? I thought a window makes the sunlight unharmfull for the headset

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Brokedownbad: A window doesn't do anything to the sunlight, that's the point of a window.

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RelaX92: You thought wrong. Some windows might have filter included, but it's the overall brightness that causes this, not some specific wave length.

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Admirable_Worth9938: Take your headset, put it on, put it in passthrough mode and act like your playing a game, when your grandmother comes in the room swing on that mf.

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DarthScorpius: Dudeeee why don’t you store it in a case when not in use? Does the price of a replacement headset not bother you?

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PageMaster500: Can someone explain what is going on here?  I get that apparently the Wyatt was damaged in someway but sunlight?  But I am unfamiliar with this being a thing 

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Zerimarkered: May be time to look into something like an Asurion home plus protection plan.

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MDMarshall: The first time I put on my headset, there was a video that shows a guy grabbing his headset to get it out of the sun. Am I the only one that saw this?

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Brokedownbad: I saw it when I bought the headset like two and a half years ago., and I didn't exactly think my grandma would be the demise of the damn thing.

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RelaX92: I always place lenses away from the windows, even when the curtains are closed and I guess you also learned that the hard way.

Btw Aliexpress has Quest 2 displays for ~100 bucks, probably cheaper than buying a broken Quest 2.

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RelaX92: Indeed, but he mentioned he wanted to fix it anyway. Atleast he only has to disassemble one Q2 if he buys the display instead of a donor Q2.

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FrozenDroid: You were the demise of the thing. You don’t leave it where the sun can reach the lenses.

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Dark-Rising64: When I’m finished with my Q3 I put the lens protector on and place it in one of those professional camera bags as my Deluxe Audio strap with battery and accessories can be kept safe and in one place

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Maverett: Never say never, because I’ll certainly jinx myself, but I see this as a side benefit of having the overpriced dock… when I’m done the headset always goes back to the same place where any strong direct light can’t hit it (with the inside facing towards a windowless wall where most of my other electronics are); it’s easy to say “what if you don’t put it back one day”, but that’s the equivalent of “what if you don’t put in the lens protectors one day”, etc.

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screwyouinpartikular: If this happens maybe to me or somebody I know, is it possible to replace them?

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Brokedownbad: It is possible, but it's absurdly difficult because you have to pretty much disassemble the entire headset to get at the lense and screen assembly

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World1_Lev1: I know it would be complicated and prone to failure, but it would be cool if there were shutters inbetween the lens and screen that closes when its not being worn.

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Lujho: It doesn’t need to be anywhere near that complicated. Some kind of cloth flap that folds down would work just as well. It could act as forehead padding when you were wearing it or something.

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CheeriosAlternative: really unfortunate, but I don't believe she knew any better. Things happen.

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StealthyGamerGirl: I never leave mine out. Once I'm done it goes back in its case, just to avoid this and any other possible damage to the lenses

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jinsaku: I’ve read about problems doing that too.. putting it in a case when it’s still hot can cause problems.

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CraigingtonTheCrate: How? If it’s off, it won’t get any hotter than when it was put in the case. Which would mean the temp it was at before going in the case can cause problems?

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Gregasy: Same here. I'm using the box that Elite Strap for Q2 came in. Was storing Quest 2 in it and now Quest 3. Perfect box.

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nomadwannabe: Sorry, I’m about to buy one of these things, light can break the headset??

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Brokedownbad: Direct sunlight into the lenses can kill any headset. It's like a magnifying glass and ants. This is an issue on every VR headset that uses lenses.

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nomadwannabe: Whaaaat, well I’m so sorry this happened to you, but that you for sharing so I know this can happen!

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dedokta: How have you been in this sub for more than 5 minutes without seeing all the sun damage posts?

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nomadwannabe: And just to be clear, the part where your face goes is what was facing the window?

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nomadwannabe: That’s what I was confused about, facing the window in my head would be the camera side so I was lost for a second - thanks for sharing the link, I guess a case may be a good addition. I imagine there has to be decent third party cases

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rolandblais: The cameras should be fine - they're basically cell phone cameras, and those handle direct sunlight just fine.

TBH I have this case, but I rarely store my Quest. It's usually sitting on the couch with the lenses not facing any direct sunlight, but if I'm feeling paranoid I have a lens cover.

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Brokedownbad: Yes, the lenses were facing the window, and the sunlight burned the display inside the headset. This is not an issue on the external cameras

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Sheikashii: Why do they open curtains every time when the room is fine already? You hate to see it

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BafangFan: Sorry that happened. It happened to my Pimax 5k as well.

But for the most part it didn't affect my gameplay and enjoyment. Best of luck to you!

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Brokedownbad: It ain't her fault, she doesn't even know what a VR headset is, and it was my fault for leaving it near a window.

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ILoveRegenHealth: > she doesn't even know what a VR headset is

Nah, she's an Apple fangirl and this was clearly sabotage of a Meta product

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Swimming_Office_7618: How do you figure lol? If I come into someone's room and knock something over, I'd consider myself at fault.

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gusklassen: Knocking something over is not the same as opening the curtains. Unless her grandkid is a vampire. Lol

After reading the post I immediately knew it was OP’s fault since you have to have the foresight to make sure this does not happen. And OP readily admits it too.

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Swimming_Office_7618: Hahah disregard. I looked at the picture initially and I thought it was a cracked lens from it being knocked over.

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taosaur: It's only grandma's fault insofar as she clearly didn't teach sonny-boy to take care of his things. She had no reason to fear daylight, but he should have known better than to leave it out like that.

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Lulz4Lolz: Shoulda always face the lenses away from a window just in case of this exact scenario.

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Brokedownbad: That big black mark is a big dead spot on the screen. it's even in both eyes.

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Brokedownbad: I'm hoping to get my hands on a quest that's damaged, but with a working display for me to salvage for parts. These things are expensive, and If I buy a new headset, it'll be PSVR only.

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taosaur: I went shopping for "PCVR only" around the beginning of this month. I ended up with a Quest 3, despite walking into it with an "anything but the Facebook headset" attitude. Every other option amounts to paying nearly twice as much (or more) for trade-offs that add up to almost certainly a worse device.

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ElRamrod: PSVR2? That's more expensive than a Quest 3 with limited games. PSVR1 is awesome though.

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Ok-Entrepreneur-8207: > If I buy a new headset, it'll be PCVR only

Why?

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Brokedownbad: I don't use it in standalone mode to justify the extra cost and performance overhead

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Fusseldieb: I have a rather expensive Vive Pro, and a Quest 2. From experience I tell you: Stick with a Quest.

  • It's cheaper
  • It's just as good
  • It's internal "overhead" guarantees that you don't get motion sick when playing PCVR and your PC happens to lag. The Quest can freeze the frame in space while your computer makes another.
  • Latency is basically unnoticeable, even on extremely fast paced games
  • Less cables and clutter
  • Doesn't need base stations screwed onto your walls and power cables going everywhere.
  • My Vive Pro cable broke and it was hella expensive, whereas a 5m USB-C one is rather cheap.
  • The Quest feels built like a tank compared to the Vive.
  • Vive controllers last like 2 days, whereas Quest ones can last weeks depending on the game.
  • Bonus: You can carry it around and use it as it is :)

... I think that's enough reasons.

I don't even use my Vive now that I got a Quest. It's just wayyyy too cumersome to set up all the cables for the Vive.

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DrunkenGerbils: How are you going through Quest controllers so quickly? If you're replacing them after they get stick drift try getting some contact cleaner and spraying it in the crack of the thumb sticks. I've had the same controllers for almost two years and every few months they start getting some drift and I just use a little contact cleaner and they're good as new for a few more months.

I use them heavily every day too with games like Dungeons of Eternity so they get a lot of use with games that require a lot of thumb stick use.

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Sp3ctralForce: I think they're talking about the battery lifespan, not the whole controller

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Crazyirishwrencher: There is no extra cost. The quest is cheaper than any current PCVR headset.

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TheBasilisker: You could try to reach out to FB and get a repair. Most likely not under warranty but a higher probability of fixing issues than what you intended.

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Limp_Calendar699: You could always pass the buck to Walmart. Just reset it, go and buy a new one, then replace it and return it. They won't check to see it's the same unit so long as there's a unit in the box. Fuck walmart. Unless your Walmart is ran with competency. Those stores are rare so yours will likely process the return

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iena2003: I use the cardboard from the original shipping box, the one that covers the lens, is that enough? (By also putting it in shadow and away from any source of light)

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Fayne-rocks: Thanks to this post and this comment, I just ordered mine. I read that it was sensitive to sunlight, but had no idea it was THIS sensitive.

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nodomain: I feel kind of silly not owning this already. I don't let sunlight near mine, but a similar thing could happen if my wife opens the curtains in my office. What's the name of it?

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Calm_Preparation_679: VR lens cover.. you can't get them in a pack with other useful items like silicone interface covers, or just by itself.

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FuckIPLaw: A carrying case is also a good idea. I think Meta's thinking is you'll just keep it in the box when you're not using it, but if you make any kind of modifications (even installing the glasses adapter on the Quest 2 counts here), you can't do that.

Both is better, but either option will prevent this.

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kododo: I loved the Q3 box because it kept the headset and controllers nice in a relatively small box. Then I found out the stock strap is ass and bought a battery strap and now I can’t use the box anymore :’(

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JoshuaPearce: For general information: The electrostatic padding which comes with lots of electronics does a great job for this. Cut it a little larger than the cavity, and it will stay in place. You don't need to do a perfect job, just an ok job.

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upagainstgravity: Yeah I've even seen people cut a piece of the cardboard their headset came in to fit in there and I imagine that works just as well. No need to get too fancy.

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bigChungi69420: Damn. Going to design and print one then layer it with felt

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bigChungi69420: Mines 5 cents and I get the pride of knowing I made it and designed it

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Degora2k: VR headsets should come with these, always baffled me that they don't considering how easy it is to accidentally expose the lenses to the sun.

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Bob_Chris: Wait what? This is an issue? Literally have never heard this. Is it a problem with the pancakes too? I know fresnel act like a Magnifying glass so I could see that burning the lenses but is the same for the quest 3?

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nino3227: Lol it's written in bold on the stickers you have to remove on the Q3 at least

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jasonreality1: WTF! I have played with those stickers on since the quest 1 came out. I thought this was how VR was supping to look through the lenses? Oh man, no wonder every VR review always looked different different from mine. This is a whole new world now! Just blew my freakin mind.

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oswaldcopperpot: Even snow globes are dangerous. Found a partially melted ear bud case next to mine.

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wescotte: Yes, it probably can still happen with Quest 3. That being said Pancakes are very inefficient compared to the Fresnel lens in Quest 1/2 so it requires longer exposure time or more light to do the same amount of damage.

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get_homebrewed: yes, all lenses have this issue if you're blowing up tiny screens to gigantic sizes, because that's just how light works. The literal first thing out of the box has stickers on the lenses that VERY CLEARLY INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO DO THIS, it's also in the manual!

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Exhales_Deeply: There was a very vocal group of fellas around here who chastised the hell out of anyone for suggesting that there is any need for this. The 'personal responsibility' brigade

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CyanVI: Buy a new one at Best Buy, put this one in the box and return it.

It’s too bad your new Quest 3 came with a scratch from the factory…

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TommmyVR: I hope you didn't blame your grandma over this.

Never leave the quest near windows. And get a lens protector, oh and also, get rekt. Sorry... but... get rekt

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daringer22: That fuckin sucks, sorry to hear. How close to the window was your headset out of curiosity?

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vampyre_: Ironic that you’ve used a measuring tape to show the location but not measured the distance from the window.

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r2k-in-the-vortex: Direct sunlight will cook the lens, right next to the window or 10m from it, makes little difference.

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yanginatep: This is why I put a cloth inside my Quest 2 when I'm not using it. Keeps dust out, but more importantly prevents any kind of sun damage.

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CommodoreAxis: Yep, I just use the microfiber I clean the lenses with when I put it away. It’s already in my hand anyways, why not have it serve double duty as a soft lens protector.

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dally-taur: are you gonna tell her she broke your headset and that your need it fixed or replaced

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bytejunkie64: This happened to my Quest Pro. I left it on the charging dock with the lenses facing away from the one window in the room. Somehow, the sunlight found it, and one day I put the headset on to find a cigarette burn just out of my direct line of sight on the right display. After I got a Quest 3, I immediately got a case, and I keep it in there with lens covers on when not in use. It was a painful lesson, for sure.

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captfitz: This happened to me, I'm annoyed because I don't remember any disclaimer about this and it seems like it should have been a big warning. It's not some common sense thing that you would know from owning other electronics, and it's really easy for it to happen.

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get_homebrewed: Literally printed everywhere on the manual, and to begin using the device you have to peel off the mandatory peel off stickers that clearly state not to do this.

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Garrette63: I'm pretty sure I had to peel a sticker off of my Quest 3 lens that had a sun damage warning on it.

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My grandmother opened the curtains in the room where I was staying before I woke up. My quest was on the bedside table, facing the window. I woke up to this. | Spyke