Max was Max, Norris was brilliant, Hamilton drove well (and got some luck), Piastri was great, Perez again finished behind slower cars, Stroll needs to go.
Me too. I never commented on Reddit as it would get buried anyways. Today I switched and I already commented twice. I would like to see a good conversation here during live events.
No they're still technically available though I doubt Pirelli are actually going to bring them out on any circuit this season. We have six compounds this year, C0-C5.
I think there needs to be a rework for the penalties. You look at WEC and a penalty seriously stings. Drive-throughs costing 30 seconds, S&G being 60s. What do we get, 5s for taking a driver out? The penalties are anemic
It's true that they've had some clutch problems over the past two years. Still, I'm not sure Max was ever renowned for his starts the way Alonso is (was?) for instance.
It's the car. Red Bull has commented in the past about trying to reduce wheel spin at the start of races by rolling on the power more slowly. They're better than they have been, but clearly not as good as McLaren.
They've had trouble with the clutch for the past two years, but even so I wouldn't hold the starts specifically as Max's best attribute. But that is more because there are other parts of driving where he is just unbelievable.
Very much enjoyed this race. Quite a few exciting moments throughout! Stoked for Lando too. I have a feeling with this package of upgrades it might be possible for Piastri to podium, he came so close today. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my end to see a rookie do well!
Huge credit to the mclaren engineers. The upgrades are massive and have clearly performed. The car last weekend showed a massive deficit, and I honestly thought it was just Lando pulling a gap to his teammate on a track he’s particularly good at. I’m very happy to be wrong. PIA being up there with NOR shows that the car really is that much better and that PIA can keep up with (but it looks like not quite challenge) Norris.
Prediction: Hamilton on softs is going to pass Lando on hards and then Max will have another of his infamous bad luck Silverstone inchidents and Lewis will win.
Other than a predictable finish for max this was a great race to watch.
Cars were able to follow closely and battle through corners. Great finish for Norris and Piastries hope they can keep it up.
Yeah, what the heck. RUS and others had just shown how well the softs were holding up, but McLaren went with hards for a final 14-15 laps. I just don't get it..
I'd guess they had a plan in mind before the race, and were completely unwilling to deviate. That's the only explanation that makes sense here. Surely they're not just willingly obtuse.
Haas is embarrassingly bad right now. This is the exact same set of problems they had in the last Gen of cars. They’ve clearly got something fundamentally wrong in their processes that causes this
They’re still a lot better than plenty of teams in the past. We’re spoiled now by 20 consistent teams. In the earlier days of F1 anyone could show up and there’d be “Pre-Qualifying” to eliminate the cars that were so slow to be dangerous to the competitors.
They’re funded, show up, and occasionally grab some points. That’s about all you can ask from a backmarker
I think Gene just doesn't give a fuck about F1. It's just a self-sustaining advertising opportunity to him and nothing more and so there is no impetus from the top to sort out what is clearly a dysfunctional team even accounting for budget constraints.
Probably just overall management. They know they're not going to beat Max. But if they can maintain a 2-3 finish, that would be phenomenal for the team.
Less than half way through and the gap is up to 5 seconds. Still it's nice to see McLaren holding position, would be very happy if we finished like this.
Happy with that. Norris in a well deserved 2nd. And 2 Brits on the podium.
Max was Max, Norris was brilliant, Hamilton drove well (and got some luck), Piastri was great, Perez again finished behind slower cars, Stroll needs to go.
Very happy for Lando! What a drive.
I just want to say how great the growth of content and conversation has been here in just a few weeks. Let's see what the McCedes can do.
Me too. I never commented on Reddit as it would get buried anyways. Today I switched and I already commented twice. I would like to see a good conversation here during live events.
She's Lewis' "friend" lol
Um, wtf, hards for Norris?
That's going to hurt them
Aged like milk ;)
still can't believe mclaren made the hards work, lewis's softs were done shortly after the restart
It's a bummer Piastri didn't have softs, not that it was anyone's fault of course. But I bet he would've passed Hamilton before the end of the race!
Why would they do that!?
Fuuuck..
Why?? What was going through their heads?
Damn. Stroll hitting Gasly was very unnecessary.
Really understating it here. Stroll's driven quite poorly today in general, to be honest, so I can't say I'm entirely shocked.
He should be getting penalty points for that move.
Is that not already the case?
He got two points, and is up to seven this season.
Doesn't that put him close to a race ban?
5 second penalty 🙄
Sometimes the penalties are insane, considering that the other driver had to retire...
Gasly got Strolled
I’m impressed the Mclarens have been able to keep up with the Red Bull so far
Max is starting to pull away now. Over 2 seconds between him and Lando.
Eh, a bit of both, if you ask me. Will be interesting to see when the top 3 pit to go onto hards.
Verstappen watching TV again
Edit: while doing a fastest lap, lol
I just don't understand why McLaren put Norris and Piastri on hard tyres.
Even split strategies surely after seeing how long George lasted on softs
We'll see, the C1 is a new tire this year. It's possible most teams underestimated it.
TIL. I really need to pay more attention to things like this.
The garbage tire from Silverstone last year is called C0 this year.
Wait I didn't know C0 was a thing. (Unless this means they just binned it, and I'm missing the joke.)
No they're still technically available though I doubt Pirelli are actually going to bring them out on any circuit this season. We have six compounds this year, C0-C5.
Huh. Thank you for the explanation!
I get the hards for Piastri, but soft was the obvious call for Lando. Just strange that they would give him such a disadvantage on the restart.
Great defense from Norris and Piastri, didnt think they would keep the mercedes behind them.
I can't believe how good Lando is defending himself against Hamilton... Impressive!
Norris is driving like a madman out there and it’s so much fun to watch
Yes! DoTD for me (and not just because I'm a fan)!
McLaren just giving it to Hamilton I'm afraid
Hamilton just got gifted a podium on a silver platter...
Get out
As always. Can’t remember the last time he was on the podium on merit!
Norris sounds pissed, and I can't say I blame him. What the fuck were McLaren thinking?
I don't think giving McLarens hard tires is a good idea... They're trying to play it too safe.
I'm gonna be so sad if Norris gets overtaken by all the soft runners...whyyyy
Exactly! Hamilton is on softs, I feel like he will overtake Lando after restart...
I'm so happy I was wrong here
Yeah why not at least softs on one car?!
McLaren seems comfortably quicker than Ferrari right now
I'm honestly shocked that Sainz hasn't done better than he has. I'd backed him for a podium shot, but this has not been a great race for him.
I think there needs to be a rework for the penalties. You look at WEC and a penalty seriously stings. Drive-throughs costing 30 seconds, S&G being 60s. What do we get, 5s for taking a driver out? The penalties are anemic
Really strong defending from Alonso there considering how bad the Aston were here today.
Piastri is the new Invisible Man. Sitting casually in 4th as a rookie and nobody is even talking about him!
Really unlucky safety car for him. He absolutely deserved the podium today.
Missing: the fastest lap indicator
Glad I'm not the only one who's been driven insane by that. Good callout.
Piastri has it at the moment, 1:32:499. It's working on the Multiviewer app
They must be reading Lemmy, because it's fixed now :D
Well done, Lando! What a race!
Yeah...Lance will be picking up a penalty here.
first time following race comments on lemmy! look forward to it
Love this Lewis/Lando duel!
Yeah, some great driving. Let's see what happens with DRS
Hards is an interesting choice McLaren
Going to be a challenge for the restart
How the hell has Russell made the softs last this long?
I'm guessing the lower track temps are really helping. Also why LeClerc is struggling on the hards.
Makes sense. I didn't think about that.
Box box
Stroll just yeeted him
5 seconds penalty. Think he is lucky there
Holy shit Alpine double DNF
Lando leads a lap! What a start.
It was nice while it lasted!
As Lando's fan, this race is a joy to watch (so far)
That's about to change sadly
Perez on softs?
Sainz fastest on hards?
Saxophone during God Save the King?
It’s been a GP of questions so far
Jeez, wtf is that Damian?
What in the actual fuck was that anthem? Completely unnecessary saxophone is always a choice
That was a strange anthem
I feel those dark clouds are just teasing us by now
Right? They just need to float on over the track a bit and give us a bit of rain
Mercedes pitwall even said they won't be anywhere close the track. Just blueballing everyone
Boxing leclerc on mediums before Russel pits on the softs 💀
Damn rough lap for Sainz there
I'm stunned. Ferrari disasterpiece today. At least they're not Haas?
I would like to say I'm shocked, but nothing Ferrari do should surprise anymore
Touché
LOL Lando's voice on the radio. He sounds pissed off!
Oh he definitely wanted to punch someone. I felt it and I'm only streaming the race.
Hamilton's tyres are cooked now, Oscar needs to push.
If Max has a "weakness" it's actually starts.
Which in his case means he's just really good at them and not otherworldly, but still.
I think there might be a car problem on starts too. Perez has had similarly bad starts and Ver has had better starts in previous years
It's true that they've had some clutch problems over the past two years. Still, I'm not sure Max was ever renowned for his starts the way Alonso is (was?) for instance.
But is it a weakness of Max or of the Red Bull? I don't remember many great starts of Perez either.
It's the car. Red Bull has commented in the past about trying to reduce wheel spin at the start of races by rolling on the power more slowly. They're better than they have been, but clearly not as good as McLaren.
But that still doesn't fix the issue with launches.
I watch Max’s onboard
the car always seems poor at accelerating from low speed
They've had trouble with the clutch for the past two years, but even so I wouldn't hold the starts specifically as Max's best attribute. But that is more because there are other parts of driving where he is just unbelievable.
Great race. A podium with Norris and Hamilton is something I wish we would see more often
Piastri is doing amazing, keeping close to Norris, serious shot at a podium today
He earned it but unlucky with the safety car.
Excellent race and so glad to see McLaren making big gains!
As always this season, I will be hoping Max doesn't win, but I am excited to see what McLaren can do.
Brundle having trouble finding people on the grid is wild, how is Silverstone so mild?
fastest lap graphic not working?
doesn’t really matter this early but still nice to see it change throughout the race
No further action on Stroll is a wild decision
Ferrari pitting, must be time for some rain.
Congrats to Lewis on second place. No way is Lando going to be able to hold him back.
What a battle it was! Can't believe Lando was and to keep ahead.
A little bit of a snoozefest so far, I'm not gonna lie
Story of the season so far. Banger qualis and mediocre races.
Very much enjoyed this race. Quite a few exciting moments throughout! Stoked for Lando too. I have a feeling with this package of upgrades it might be possible for Piastri to podium, he came so close today. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my end to see a rookie do well!
Out of the last few races I think this was one of the better ones, it had several fun moments.
Also, please fix your qualifying Checo, you’re killing me here
I'm just hoping for a McLaren podium
I'm predicting Checo will finish in the points.
Let’s go Lando!
McLaren going to catch up to Alpine in a single weekend somehow haha
Go on Piastri!
Safety car time
Hopefully they manage to keep it to the VSC
Welp
Yesssss.
Really hoping at least one of the McLarens finish on the podium 🤞
Well that was different
Holy shit what is happening? Am I in a parallel dimension?
And... It's all over
Now we can focus on the real excitement in the midfield
Waiting for George's radio grassing on Leclercs late move
Well, you didn't wait very long.
Uh oh, George is saying it's raining again 👀
"What a terrible day for rain." - George Russell, Silverstone 2023
Lmao, Sainz forgot plan B
I am ready for McLaren dominance. Amazing how this car went from piss to leading the grand prix in one season
Well atleast max had to work for it a bit
It's pretty cool to see Oscar being able to show off his talent.
Huge credit to the mclaren engineers. The upgrades are massive and have clearly performed. The car last weekend showed a massive deficit, and I honestly thought it was just Lando pulling a gap to his teammate on a track he’s particularly good at. I’m very happy to be wrong. PIA being up there with NOR shows that the car really is that much better and that PIA can keep up with (but it looks like not quite challenge) Norris.
Alpine moment.
Norris on Hards is going to win him this or completely fuck him over
Hopefully Albon can make some points today
Prediction: Hamilton on softs is going to pass Lando on hards and then Max will have another of his infamous bad luck Silverstone inchidents and Lewis will win.
Shut
We can wish. But this is the 2023 season. Max will win... stuff will happen behind him.
Please no
The McLaren livery is really growing on me. They should just make that their permanent one.
🎸It's really growing on meeeeeee!
HAM's out of DRS, has Norris got it?
One can hope, even if it is always the hope that kills.
Holy shit I love seeing Lando fighting at the front. He clearly has the racecraft to do it
Ferrari 9-10 shouldn't be surprising but it is.
surprised that mclaren is holding position
For 2 more laps max
The longer it goes on for, the more it favours McLaren
Keep it steady Lando, mate.
Being a Ferrari supporter is more painful every week!
They have the absolute worst strategy every week.
Did i hear that right was the Avril Lavigne? Shame she wouldn't chat
On the F1TV grid walk they don't much care about celebs, and it's great.
One of the few tracks where you can here the crowd without it being piped in
Inevitable but that was 4 laps more than I thought we’d get to see a McLaren leading this race
Any guesses on whether or not Ferrari manage to avoid bottling their tyre strategy?
There's pretty solid odds that they pit for a tire change a lap before it starts raining only to pit a few laps later for inters.
Makes sense.
Wow. What a start for Lando!
WE HAVE A RACE!
For now anyway. Love it
Norris in pole!
George still running on those softs at lap 25 is nuts.
I think running the soft so long and being able to go to mediums is going to end up a lot better than everyone running hards
Nyck keeping it clean as well. Very impressive.
I bring you FIRE!
I hope they keep Lando out long enough to put on softs.
Other than a predictable finish for max this was a great race to watch. Cars were able to follow closely and battle through corners. Great finish for Norris and Piastries hope they can keep it up.
Max 5 seconds ahead of P2 by lap 3
Any good chance for Perez to end up on podium?
The red bull below him is capable of a padium yes. Perez? Let's see
Rain in the distance, that could spice things up.
Norris is going to get eaten alive
hards make no sense
Very disappointed in mclaren rn... they threw this race
So how is this formation lap with the apex car supposed to work? Will they just follow at the back and enter the pitlane?
That was only for the installation lap, not the formation lap, wasn't it?
You're right, my mistake. That makes a lot more sense
Softs are looking durable, surprising more aren't considering it
Magnuson on fire! Not good
Haas on Fire and Alpine DNF. Now this is Formula 1!
I’m so disappointed with McLaren.
Yeah, what the heck. RUS and others had just shown how well the softs were holding up, but McLaren went with hards for a final 14-15 laps. I just don't get it..
I'd guess they had a plan in mind before the race, and were completely unwilling to deviate. That's the only explanation that makes sense here. Surely they're not just willingly obtuse.
This should be a fun 15 or so laps to the finish. Gonna be hard for Mclaren, id bet ver - ham - rus for the podium
Guess it’s working out for Lando with the hard tire.
Full SC now
A Williams passing a Ferrari wtf
That was seriously impressive driving from Albon at the end. Williams leading both Ferrari's!
Wtf Sainz going backwards
Are we in for some excitement? Would make a change, lmao
That replay of KMag looks like his car has diarrhea from eating a curry that is too hot for him.
But that was a nice overtake!
Ferrari on hards is going to be painful to watch.
We've all seen how this movie goes...
Classic Ferrari strategy
"I forgot the details" sums it up.
Dead Haas
Safety Car!
Max/Lando are winning out here
Leclerc doing good lap times on the hards, I think the C1s might be pretty good.
EDIT: scratch that he's not getting temps in them.
To those who are watching this on F1 TV, does the crew seem a bit biased or am I on about nothing?
A little, yeah. But not enough to bother me too much. It's the British GP 🤷♂️
Silverstone's a good track, but it's the one track that I don't enjoy as much as I should because of how poor the commentary ends up being.
Wow! Ocon DNF.
This is the Alpine we all know and love.
Precisely.
Was that a hawk?
Norris just dropped out of DRS. Get ready for the gap to build fast now.
He's not that far outside the range. I think he'll get at least one more shot.
Definitely doing better than I expected. Pleasantly surprised.
Sainz with the fastest lap, and that's on hards
How long do we think Russell lasts on the softs? If he makes them go past lap 22, I'll honestly be a little impressed.
He's still doing solid lap times. Doesn't seem to be falling off yet.
5 seconds of free air in front now, should help
RIP Magnussen
I don't see how this can stay a vsc
Excited! But I expect everything is back to normal after a vew laps.
Haas is in a really bad spot. Super slow in the race while eating the tires and now MAG out of the race, just like HUL in the last race.
Haas is embarrassingly bad right now. This is the exact same set of problems they had in the last Gen of cars. They’ve clearly got something fundamentally wrong in their processes that causes this
Part of me says they're just making a mockery of the sport and should be pushed off the grid, but then who'd replace them, if anyone?
They’re still a lot better than plenty of teams in the past. We’re spoiled now by 20 consistent teams. In the earlier days of F1 anyone could show up and there’d be “Pre-Qualifying” to eliminate the cars that were so slow to be dangerous to the competitors.
They’re funded, show up, and occasionally grab some points. That’s about all you can ask from a backmarker
But imho it's bad for the sport that there are teams that can barely pretend they're contending for points.
There always has and always will be backmarkers. There’s teams in all sorts of sports championships that barely ever win.
Only half of the cars get points. That pretty much means there is always going to be teams that won’t be challenging.
...fair enough.
I think Gene just doesn't give a fuck about F1. It's just a self-sustaining advertising opportunity to him and nothing more and so there is no impetus from the top to sort out what is clearly a dysfunctional team even accounting for budget constraints.
It’s a massive advertisement for him. Can’t really blame him for that.
Haas machinery sales have grown a ton outside of the US since he started the team.
Who had a leak on the grid? Loads of sand going down
The hard tires are murdering Carlos atm, what a shame.
Norris is a bit faster than Verstappen at the moment
Max is playing Motorsport manager on his phone at the same time though..
He's probably saving his engine. No need to push he's already won and has fastest lap.
Turns out McLaren were right and everyone else was wrong.
The new C1 does indeed seem better than expected.
I'm surprised.
That said, it looks like Lewis made his shifts work far too hard. George did a much better job of working his softs
I had a hunch before the race based only on Pirellis track record: https://lemmy.world/comment/1024076
Thankfully safety cars and teams underestimating it made the race far more interesting than that!
10 more laps and lando would absolutely have it
Sainz baby! Que haces?
Gasly out, hopefully he finds a good spot to dump it
Wtf is that commentary? Zomby cars?
Alpine gonna Alpine I guess.
What happened to piastri? I haven't been following very well
He took his pit stop
Cheers
The only way this works out for Mclaren is if the cars around them shred the softs and drop off at the end.
These new tyres look a tad more durable than the ones we’ve had so far. That might play into race strategy this year.
Sadly I don't see that happening. Russell made it 28? Laps with much more fuel
It’s very likely. One can dream as a Lando fan
Piastri holding his own against Max is quite impressive
If the Mclaren pace holds on this could get interesting
Did Alonso miss the VSC pit window?
Go Go Go!
The sun coming out and warming up the track might have saved the hard tire
Weather update?
5-10% chance of rain, so not likely to happen.
Welp. Goddamn it Haas.
Dr House can sing
That's Dr Homeland
Safety Car 2? MGHU boogaloo?
Just made it to the pits thankfully
Don't you bring that evil on me
Lol yeah I’d say engine died all right
Really?
They have to play the radio message where they tell Gasly about the decision.
I thought that was one of Ferrari's engineers.
mclaren able to stay ahead of ferrari so far
neat
The grid walk is so much fun!!
3.9 seconds. Ayyyy. They need to get better at that.
Was exciting for a few minutes…
Max might just be managing though
Seems like it takes five laps for the hards to warm up properly, as Charles is now able to improve pace.
ah great, the VSC lottery deciding the race.
as usual, Max ruining the fun for everyone.
I wonder if the stewards are going to investigate the Hulkenberg-Perez contact.
Safety Car!
I hope this rain doesn't become a repeat of Sochi
When are Merc going to sort out their pit crews?
Maybe they should arrange an exchange with the Ferrari strategy team?
McLaren dropping back for tyre temps, maybe. That was an insane start for Lando.
Probably just overall management. They know they're not going to beat Max. But if they can maintain a 2-3 finish, that would be phenomenal for the team.
Perez going for driver of the day again.
Cant win the championship so he's tanking in qualifying so he can win driver of the day every race...
Less than half way through and the gap is up to 5 seconds. Still it's nice to see McLaren holding position, would be very happy if we finished like this.
Full safety car
When is the just stop oil protest due?