Spyke
lemmy.world

This is starting to get embarrassing for Checo. I thought people were exaggerating how precarious his position was but if he keeps performing like this RB might actually be forced to take action.

Imagine if RB had an actual competitor, Checo couldn't support Max at the front at all if he keeps going like this.

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Bison1911reply
vlemmy.net

I also thought the "Checo washed" comments and discussion about his seat being in jeopardy were an overreaction a few weeks ago. At this point though, I'm expecting Redbull to drop him any moment.

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BURNreply
lemmy.world

I’m still thinking he’s going to end out his contract, but he’s not getting a new one

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soEZreply
lemmy.world

Yeah..if he manages to keep his P2 in championship they are unlikely to drop him this year (and his race pace is good enough to get him into top 3) and i don't think they would go for Ricardo either...not sure who though.. Surely they are starting to think beyond Max, as Max stated he might not stick around in F1 and move to other series.

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soEZreply
lemmy.world

Fair, although some suggested aston is focusing on next year already as they want to be winning in a year or two...others think they are stuck like merc...

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BURNreply
lemmy.world

Yuki has matured a lot, and next year is as ready as he’s going to get. Either that or they put Lawson/Iwasa up against each other at AT and the winner gets promoted

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Makes sense. I should really pay more attention to. Yuki, hard to judge his performance as de vries is absolutely no where... I am glad Piastri is doing well after the whole alpine fiasco.

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Aside from Perez, they've only been dragging up drivers with very little experience to fill the seat. The rookies probably need a couple years in Formula 1.5 before graduating to Formula 1. I'd love to see Sainz come back, they way they treat him as second class at Ferrari for no reason is ridiculous.

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Just compare him to Bottas at Mercedes--never missing Q3 during his time there. And how many times has Checo not made it to Q1 this season?

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When is Ricciardo not grinning? 😁

That lad deserves an emoji of his own!

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lemmy.world

My hot take is that Yuki is pretty much set to take the second RB seat pending Perez’s overall performance. If Perez continues to be abysmal, I’m sure that RB will drop him using a performance clause in his contract.

Everyone likes to rag on Yuki but since Gasly has left, Yuki stepped out tremendously. Not to mention that he’s been dragging that shit box to mid-field a handful of times. Helmut Marko even commented on Yuki’s performance and Marko never compliments anyone unless you’re Max and Vettel.

De Vries is going to get dropped to make way for Liam Lawson.

RB/AT seats is going to make silly season fun.

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lemmy.world

I really don't think Yuki would be an improvement. He's been inconsistent and his highs haven't exactly been amazing. They'd be better going for Riccardo or the Hulk or Sainz imo.

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Whoa whoa...put the brakes on. I wouldn't go that far. Just kidding. Of course I would.

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lemmy.world

No way RB puts another outside driver in the seat. Marko even said that Mateschitz threatened to pull funding for RB Junior if Perez gets the seat because all RB drivers are supposed to come in from RBJ (he gave in, obviously).

Sainz - He worked like hell to get out of RB. Even if it was an option, I can’t see him going back to be a second driver behind Max. We already see how much he hates being deprioritized behind Leclerc.

Hulk - He’s a Mercedes Jr, never had backing from Red Bull. I can’t see this happening.

Ricciardo - Maybe for a short stint to cover Perez if he gets dropped. I can’t see him staying long term.

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lemmy.world

Hulk isn't affiliated with Merc at all, are you thinking of someone else?

Also I don't remember Sainz fighting like hell to get out of RB, I thought Renault just needed a driver and RB let him go because it didn't look like an RBR seat would open up any time soon and they wanted a space for Gasly.

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lemmy.world

I thought he was a Mercedes Jr. during his F3 career… but maybe I’m remembering wrong.

Sainz got snubbed for the Red Bull seat even though he felt he out performed Max. Red Bull loaned him to Renault and once he was there, Sainz tried to make the move permanent. I just remembered that at the time, RB did not want to let Sainz off the RB team.

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Ah I get you. He may have been, but I don't think that's a big deal now. Perez was a Ferrari junior who drove for McLaren & Red Bull, Sainz was a red bull junior who drives for Ferrari. Once you're graduated and move teams I don't think it really matters either way.

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feddit.nl

My bet is on Hulkenberg.

As odd as it sounds, Sainz is too good. RBR doesn't need another driver who can challenge for the win. That only creates friction. That means that Sainz is not a good option in my opinion.

Ricciardo is apparently too slow when driving the sim, much slower than Perez.

I think Hulk is decent enough, but also realistic enough not to start drama within the team.

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soEZreply
lemmy.world

Where was it said that Ricardo is slow on sim? Just never came across such info? (not doubting ur comment just want to see where to look for such info)

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Thanks, that was a good read. Horner did seem to suggest Daniel was improving but who knows.

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There was some bad blood between the Verstappen's and the Sainz's, wasn't there? From back in the Toro Rosso days, when the Sainz camp engaged in some pretty heavy politicking, from what I heard.

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lemmy.world

Perez was leading the pack on a damp track. It was a bad call to put him at the front. And the gap between him and tenth shows it.

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Max drinking his water during that section of the interview to stop from smiling that shit-eating grin of his 😂

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lemmy.world

McLaren wtf Zack is so fucking pumped, proud of that guy. What a performance from Norris and Piastri.

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lemmy.world

He put a shit eating grin on my face watching him charge around the garage damn near punching everyone with those high fives!

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I'm right there with you, I was grinning the whole time watching him. So happy to see those upgrades coming through for McLaren. Lando deserves a good car.

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lemmy.world

This time, I honestly can't blame him. Being put completely at the front was the worst position to be in, and that is on the team.

The previous 4 races though, those are on him, and are embarrassing as fuck.

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Albon was directly behind Perez, like crossed the line within a couple seconds at most, and was .5 of a second faster. Half a second. I'm sorry for Perez fans because he has shown before that he can do ok at qualy, enough to keep up, and he's shown he can defend like a lion. But there's no excuse here. He got beaten by Sergeant in a Williams FFS, who was right behind Albon. They all drove the track in the same conditions.

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reddwarfreply
vlemmy.net

Curious, how do you know the team put him on that spot at the front? Maybe Checo is so nervous and anxious he 'asks' for those kind of actions as he thinks that will help him? I have seen panic in people before and they make the wrong calls all the time. And I have seen some that get worse when it just keeps on getting bad for them; they will force others in the team to make mistakes because he will 'demand' the action for he thinks it will help him.

I see this as a typical panicky move by a guy who has lost his way and the team is starting to give in because there is no helping a panicked man that will trust none from where the help might come. Classic mistake to make and that is all on Checo.

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Obviously don't know the exact circumstances. But I would really expect a team like Red Bull to not be driven to panic by 1 driver. If he asked for it, then they should have denied him.

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Absolutely rediciulous. That red flag gave him a second chance and he blew it

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He seems completely out of it currently.

Hopefully he can somehow recover during the summer break. They gave Albon the boot for less

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He’s just not looked impressive recently. Even his race pace when you take into consideration the performance of the car. I’m not sure I want to see Albon back in given how well he’s doing at Williams, but I feel like we need to see someone else in there sooner rather than later.

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espentanreply
lemmy.world

Nothing and everything. He's 14th, 1,5 seconds behind his teammate.

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lemmy.world

Damn. The way you worded the original comment, I thought he'd crashed or fallen afoul of track limits (such a cursed concept now...).

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tomreply
lemmy.fmhy.ml

Commentators saying this is the fifth time in a row. That's got to hurt. Stats like that building up are very noticeable and get bandied around by the people that matter.

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lemmy.world

I’m a Redbull and Checo fan so the season has been equal parts ecstatic and not. I’m also a fan of the sport so itself and generally cheer for many drivers/teams.

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Fair enough. I'm a Red Bull and Tsunoda fan, so this season has been...decidedly a mixed fan for me as well. I'd love to see Yuki at RB, though. I think that would be a good way to really unleash his potential, as opposed to watching him basically drive roadkill on wheels.

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lemmy.world

Petition to make Max drive a formula 2 car to keep races competitive.

We can leave Perez in the Red Bull, it’ll be fine.

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Given the turning radius on these cars, and the sometimes very narrow pitlanes, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

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I'm excited to see how DTS will portray this catastrophic blunder by Max. Perhaps it's him and not Checo whose really at risk for losing his seat

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It's so weird, especially when Sainz has been way more consistent this season.

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lemmy.world

Damn McLaren. That was an exciting 2 seconds on Lando on pole lol

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imbrucyreply
lemmy.one

I saw Max with a yellow sector two and I thought Lando had it. So excited for those two seconds before Max ruined it as always.

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Love to see McLaren back at the front, very interesting to see so many teams getting competitive. Just ignore Max and it’s a bloody interesting season.

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A very interesting quali, and hopefully an interesting race tomorrow as well.

Delighted by the surprise performance by the two McLarens, happy for Piastri especially. Up until this point I was feeling none of the rookies were making much of an impact. I don't usually root for McLaren but I definitely will tomorrow.

Perez needs to get his shit together or it might be curtains for him...

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I'm really hoping there's no rain tomorrow. Their dry performance looks great!

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vlemmy.net

Feel like printing some "FREE SAINZ" shirts lol Ferrari have locked him in 2nd place driver spot, but he's looked at least equal to Leclerc this season.

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Varyagreply
lemm.ee

He's more consistent in delivering results than Leclerc has been, at least so far this season.

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That's what I'm saying. Absolutely no reason for Ferrari to favor Leclerc right now

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Honestly, good for him. He's matured as a driver and it seems like Williams has finally figured out how to make a decently fast car.

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lemmy.world

After struggling to log in for twenty minutes, the qualifying thread has been pinned! Let's go!

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Would you consider adding a mod or two so someone else can pin threads when you're not here?

I feel like it would help the community grow a lot if there were multiple mods.

Thanks

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lemmy.world

Waiting the whole season for Max to make a single mistake and when it finally happens it's in a Q1 that doesn't matter

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Deboreply
lemmy.world

“I understeered and there was no traction”

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See, people need to cut Checo some slack. Even Max can't drive this car /s

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Lol Sainz and Leclerc are NOT happy with each other, team ordered them to swap places again at the pitlane exit!

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lemmy.world

I don't know how sainz hasn't ragequit. If I was red bull I'd be tempted to try and engineer a trade for Perez.

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sh.itjust.works

Horner: We think you need a change of scenery, so we've traded you to Ferrari for Carlos Sainz.

Checo: Not like this. Please, not like this.

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Sainz and RB/Max is not a good combo in my opinion. Sainz has ambitions, dreams.

Just like Checo, dreaming and fantasising that they also could become world champion! They are wrong and delusional if they have that in the RB 2nd seat. What RB needs is a safe pair of experienced hands that will be glad to be driving F1. No lofty ambitions, just the realisation what they are here for: help clinch constructors title and support Max in races so he is not sandwiched between competitors.
I.e. they need Hulkenberg, Ricciardo, Magnussen. That kind of driver.
 
I will give RB the benefit of the doubt though, they must have been baffled by the attitude and misplaced dreams of Checo and his entourage (nay, the entire population of Mexico). They gave an older reasonably good driver a lifeline back into F1 and then he gets uppity? And then underperforms like a rookie?

Boot Checo today if not tomorrow.

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lemmy.ml

Perez’s saving grace is that he is in the fast car and can come back through the pack to reclaim some points or a podium.

Luckily for RB Max is winning all championships on his own so whilst not great it’s not terrible.

If his race performances were off too he would have been gone before now. RB dropped Gasly and Albon for less however more was at stake then when they were not smashing everyone else.

People need to stop voting him driver of the day though.

Pumped for McLaren. Loved Zak’s reaction in the garage.

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It is really best case scenario for Perez to have an off period. Max is winning everything and there is a large fight for second best so the rest of the available points are being spread around every race. As long as Checo has an occasional good race, there is absolutely no risk for the constructor's for Red Bull.

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tomreply
lemmy.fmhy.ml

It's insane seeing someone pop up to the very top of the column, and then just watch their name get relentlessly pushed down as driver after driver gets their fast lap in. Gripping stuff.

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Races this year have been mostly mediocre but we've had several dynamite qualis already!

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That keeps happening to lando, great to see him pip everyone back at the end of the session even if Max got pole in the end

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We all know Norris is great but Piastri looks the real deal too. Exciting future for McLaren if they can build on this, especially with the new wind tunnel coming online soon.

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lemmy.world

I’ve got my hopes up that Williams and Albon are able to translate their top 3 times in the free practices to a good position in this qualifying.

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I can't believe Lando is still just 23 years old. McLaren better give him a damn good car for the long term, he can put up some exciting championship contending seasons.

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You gotta hand it to him, though. He's just incredibly good and I find it a joy to watch him.

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Ferraris switched again before leaving pit lane. How are they so incompetent

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McLaren back for good?

Albon was faster then Alonso all thou qualifying. Crazy.

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lemmy.fmhy.ml

Come on Albon, I think he's missed his chance, but 1 more hero lap?

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Hopefully it doesn’t start raining more during this red flag so we can get that lap

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lemmy.world

I really hope he can pull a magic lap, would love to have him start higher up.

EDIT: Wow, great laps from Williams!

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What's the biggest points distance a driver has ever won the championship by?

I think its going to be broken in 2023.

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lemmy.ca

Imagine the disappointment at Williams just now... maybe one more shot? But it's not looking good

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Yeah, from on their speed in practice, this surely wasn't what they were imagining.

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Well this return of rain and the customary Ferrari Haas fuckup caused several drivers to not be able to put in a good lap... I'm afraid our Williams boys won't even get to Q2

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lemmy.world

Hoping for a surprise Williams front row this weekend. And obviously an Alonso upset.

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lemmy.world

Is there a way to autorefresh the comments with 18.1? Or do I need to reload and click new every time?

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lemmy.world

Wefwef remembers to sort by new, I'm just refreshing every minute or so. Used to doing that from when I used to use RIF.

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The one time Stroll looks in his mirrors, he gets in the way of Ocon and both end up knocked out lmao

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lemmy.world

I hadn't heard/seen there's a chance for rain during qualifying. That should really shake up the midfield!

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This is such a fun track in wet conditions! Hopefully any significant rain won't come until later in qualy.

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No downforce will do that to you. It's the trade-off for the low drag they've gone for.

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lemmy.world

They're supposed to be a "sister team", I think I've heard noises about it going back to being more of a B team soon, which I assume would involve more parts sharing.

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Yeap, apparently RB will start sharing allowed parts with them, next year. Similar, I suppose to Ferrari/Haas. So, no guarantees that will mean a performance upgrade but at least they should have more money to spend on the parts they have to develop themselves. Maybe.

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Drying track is always fireworks for quali. I missed the pre show, what's the weather forecast for q2 and 3?

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Let's see Nico breaking into the top 6 today and finish the race around p16 tomorrow

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lemmy.fmhy.ml

de Vries a mile behind in 19th. If Magnussen was able to take a lap at the end there he would have been 0.4 behind every other driver.

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lemmy.world

It's sad how badly he's drowned in F1, especially after such a promising drive at Monza last year. Kinda like Michael Andretti or Jan Magnussen, it just isn't happening for him.

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There's no reason to keep him after the summer break. It just feels inevitable now.

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Coelacanthreply
lemmy.world

He should for this race. I don't really understand how under the radar he's gone this season, he's been impressively close to Norris for a rookie all year.

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I think he's got the upgrades Lando had last race but Lando has some new upgrades this time out.

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Very surprised that McLaren's been able to pull ahead of the backfield, they looked stuck there at the start of the season.

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Q1 was amazing. Don’t think that’s going to get topped.

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I think Sky's either playing fake crowd sounds or they're mixing it louder when they want to try and build hype

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Lol Ferrari not wasting time this session to switch to slicks. Would be terribly ironic if it started raining now

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lemmy.world

Apparently Max overtook the Mercedes under yellow? Could be a McLaren 1-2

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Sorry there was an onboard of Max but he passed in the sector before the yellow

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I didn't see Q1, was the red flag early in the session or did Perez fail to do a good time?

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Varyagreply
lemm.ee

It was in the final 3 minutes of Q1 and several drivers, especially Perez, stood still too long in the pitlane exit waiting for the green and the tires lost temperature. It really disadvantaged several drivers

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Came down to a final lap shootout, and Checo just didn’t deliver. No fault but his own.

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Perez just failed to do a good time. Although he kinda got shafted by being the first one out after the red flag on used tires, since he was drying the track for everyone behind him.

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Was a red flag 3 minutes before the end. So everyone had a single chance to set their top time. Especially with the track drying. Perez just didn’t set a good enough time. Maybe if he waited a little bit longer to set a time the track would‘be been a bit faster. It was improving a lot.

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Perez was overly cautious on his final lap. He really doesn't look comfortable in the wet as we've already seen this season. Took too few risks and just ended up slow.

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Checo absolutely should have been able to get through. The team didn't help him by putting him out at the front after the red flag, but there's not really any excuse for not making it this time.

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I want to see Yuki in the red bull, but I don't know if he is ready at the moment

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