A few years ago I regularly took the same morning bus to work. There was this maybe 16-17 year old kid who sat on the back and would listen obnoxious rap at full volume on his phone, while hogging the whole seat row with his stuff.
I had my headphones on but the hideous rap blared so loud I couldn't hear anything else. In my country we rarely interfere with other people's business, everyone was just sitting tight looking pissed off.
After few minutes I stood up, walked to the kid and told him to either turn that shit off, use headphones like everyone else or I'd throw his phone out at the next stop. He looked at me for a moment completely dumbfounded but turned the noise off and left the bus at the next stop.
I strongly dislike rap in general, but this horror was something that was probably home made by the kid himself or his friends. All I remember about the "lyrics" was that they involved some kind of rape fantasy.
These things happen! I have a similar story. People often just rely on the bystander effect to let them get away with anti-social behavior; sometimes when something is done about it the confrontation shocks them so much they don't put up a fight.
No, what? Don’t be creepy about it. Just snap their picture and run it through pimeyes to find their address and live in their walls for a few years to observe their schedule and fears. Maybe replace all of their clothes with identical versions a single size larger and put an irritant in their bodywash to give them reason to question whether they’ve dropped weight due to a terminal illness, then complete their existence as they sleep and, as hard as it may be, platonically collect their eyelashes for your album. Just don’t be creepy.
You write " forced to listen to accordion covers of operas played at a volume so it competes against the TVs playing the HeadOn commercial in Portuguese backwards in a loop" funny, but I get it.
I'm gonna add people that use speakerphone in public to that last. Just today I witnessed a dude at a Starbucks speaking loudly because he had his phone sitting on the table in front of him. Nothing in his hands, just wanted to disturb everyone, apparently...
Meh. People watch stuff on public transportation, airplanes, or wherever without headphones. It’s maddening. I don’t care what the content is. They’re just being assholes.
The flipping thru media? Shit, look at the age of some of the people creating the “content” (I use that word loosely, the vapid and shallow garbage that consumes the majority of bandwidth is devoid of anything worthy of being called content). There’s a huge span of ages, from millennials to tweens generating the noise. Everyone shouting as loud as they can for views. Heck, even if you’re a conservative ass boomer there’s content for you, how does anyone think all these bullshit Q and pizza parlor pedo shit gets spread around.
Anyway, point being…it’s not the generation being an asshole watching the stuff loudly in public space, there’s plenty of assholes doing it. Just the kind of media they’re blasting is different by age.
IDK, I remember kids blasting boom boxes in the 90s, and others would listen to headphones around their neck with the cans turned out so others can hear their music. It's not new, people just suck.
But the parents didn't have to supply their kids with the devices in the first place. Gen X parents are getting their revenge on society for being perennially ignored.
I got on the bus today, and there was this grumpy old guy complaining loudly to the lady in front of him about pronouns.
She was clearly trying to ignore him by pretending to read a book.
He looked up at me and scowled, but he stopped talking.
So I sat down next to him and opened TikTok.
He couldn't help but be nosy and was staring at my phone, so I picked the most obnoxious videos.
Each time he would show interest, I would flip to the next one.
I'm sure it was annoying, but at least he shut the fuck up for the rest of the ride.
Yeah the rewiring of patience is startling. Like sometimes I'll look over a friend's shoulder at something that sounds like it's going to be interesting, only to see them flick it away before anything has even happened. Like what was your queue that this video wasn't worth your 20 seconds? Maybe they should have waved their arms or said something shocking to grab your attention?
I know it's old fashioned of me, but it's so weird to have this (and I mean no offense) schizophrenic stream of av content whipping by, with ads, extremism, and product placement interleaved with micro journalism, education, and genuine attempts at communication.
There's something about the infinite scrolling format which makes us fickle. It removes the act of choosing--
Sorry I don't know what this rant is about. I'm preaching to the choir here. I'm just nervous because my wife is having surgery today. Anyway thanks for the distraction, back to worrying lol
It's "content" or rather it's pablum for the mind. Wholly insubstantial videos that make it seem like you're in control, when in reality, you're just bored and a non-stop parade of flashy lights is what your brain needs to release dopamine. Everyone would be better off vegging in front of a TV watching TBBT. It's that atrophying.
A mixture of American society being dumbed down by social media and defunded school districts, neglectful Gen X parents that shoved a device in their hands at 5yo and walked away, and a feeling of detachment from a reality that is becoming more and more bleak as time progresses.
Cap is a reference to the façade that you can put over your teeth to make them look nice. Cap means fake, insincere; no cap means authentic, real, honest.
Your free trial of my transgenerational banter course, Boomer2Zoomer, has expired.
Zoomers are just another generation of humans the same as the last but with different circumstances upon arrival to earth. Can't really blame them for being born when they were, you'd be a Zoomer too if you were born then. Imagine being born and your mom is addicted to a fucking smartphone and barely pays attention to you and then when you're 4 she gives you her old phone so you'll shut the Fuck up and leave her and her phone alone. Like fuck that's some shit.
All right everyone it's time for an old person check!
If you identify with this meme you might be old!
it's important for you to recognize every generation was cringe because life is cringe.
It's a little part of growing up, try to be kind to those around you even if they're younger.
Not really about generations, it's more about manners, anyone blasting shit around people who never asked for anything deserve a kick in the groin. Bonus kicks for people ruining the calm in a natural landscape.
But this post explicitly defines the situation in terms of their generation not their attitude, separating the two changes the context and my response was to the context.
Yeah, the people saying it's "not about the generation" are coping because they don't want to admit it's tribalism.
This post didn't have to mention the generation and most certainly did not have to put it in framing that perported it was the reason they behaved like that.
People in these comments don't understand how close they are to the "millennials are the problem with x posts"
I am 18 any almost all my friends consume this type of media at a rapid pace. This is not really an -old people hate youngsters thing, what these consumers are dou g is simply not okay (specifically the unreasonably loud tiktoks, without headphones obv)
Exactly. At the end of the day, a haircut, or fashion, or what you like to do on the bus is super unimportant. Manners and common decency are timeless. Too bad that parents aren't really teaching those values as frequently these days.
Agreed, but listening to anything in a public setting without headphones is a shitty thing to do. It was when I was a kid with a Gameboy or Walkman, and it still is now with tiktok.
I remember kids in my class randomly shouting “Waffles!” or “this is a spork!” Because lol so random xd
Kids so obsessed with invader zim that they acted like him in real life
Also l33t sp33k being cool for a minute and “the narwhal bacons at midnight”at the peak of Reddit popularity
The whole gangam style craze. I went to a wedding held in a barn and everyone did the gangam style
People saying “epic fail” all the time
This is just what I can remember off the top of my head, but I think you get the point. None of us are without blame, we are all cringe. Let the kids be cringe too, it’s part of growing up
Every time I see somebody complaining about how (younger) people consume media today, I'm reminded of a video I saw of somebody talking about the so-called "ADHD Epidemic" and this one comic in it of a kid sitting at a desk in school and staring at a flashing billboard out the window while the teacher was yelling at him to pay attention. His response was, "To what?"
Gen X and Millenials are a product of that environment and it's gotten worse since the rise of social media. Gen Z and Alpha are growing up in a world of a million points of stimulus attempting to hog their dopamine receptors all at once. Is it any wonder that they can't focus on any one thing for more than 3 seconds?
All of our attention spans for generations now have been stolen by advertisers looking to make money off of it. The younger generations deserve our kindness for what's been done to them. Or else we're no better than those older than us were when we were young.
I'm a millenial (born 1981), and I remember my father (a boomer) complaining about MTV in the 90s and 00s, and how "confusing" it was. He couldn't fathom how the young people could pay attention to what was being told on the account of how fast and abrupt the cutting was.
Fast forwards to today, and the MTV-style is everywhere: YouTube, TikTok, Reels etc is directly traced back to the fast paced MTV style of cutting.
This hypothetical person in the green text is in the wrong. However my issue is that it is painted as an issue with the generation rather than just plain human decency. This could be an issue with anyone. It's deliberately used to paint the generation in a negative light and is an attempt at pretty tribalism that has been tried with every generation.
This tactic has been used to separate generations and create tribalism especially politically for years and I do not condone it.
I tease my husband when he is on Facebook because my God it sounds exactly like when the kids are scrolling TikTok. Don't know how he can stand it. But he doesn't do that out in the world.
I blame the phone designers removing the headphone jack. We now have a generation of people who grew up without it,always using the speaker, max volume out loud is just how they exist, it's the new normal.
As a zoomer I still find that stuff strange. Although to all the people saying social media is bad, lemmy is also social media and can be just as bad for you. Go outside, touch grass or something. Better than shitting on some kid who was neglected by his parents and given a phone as a replacement.
I swear, the next time I’m in the situation where someone is blaring their music in public I’m going to go out of my way to jam out with them and appreciate it.
new rule for millennials and gen x - if you can complete the phrase "RonCo Showtime Rotisserie - Just set it, and ________" then you don't get to make fun of tiktok
It really looks like that's what they do. My brother (13 yo) stays on the same posts for a long time, let's them loop for 6 times and then scrolls... And yeah, they tend to okay that stuff really loud for some reason
People who listen to music on speaker in public should be euthanized.
A few years ago I regularly took the same morning bus to work. There was this maybe 16-17 year old kid who sat on the back and would listen obnoxious rap at full volume on his phone, while hogging the whole seat row with his stuff.
I had my headphones on but the hideous rap blared so loud I couldn't hear anything else. In my country we rarely interfere with other people's business, everyone was just sitting tight looking pissed off.
After few minutes I stood up, walked to the kid and told him to either turn that shit off, use headphones like everyone else or I'd throw his phone out at the next stop. He looked at me for a moment completely dumbfounded but turned the noise off and left the bus at the next stop.
He never took the same bus again.
You were everyone's hero that day.
It's easier to do when you're a tall man and happen to look like a bike ganger ;)
Thank you.
Please all other bike ganger-looking people do this for us poor masses who suffer through this garbage
OK fine
I'd happily pay higher fees if the transit companies hired people like you to do this all the time!
What is obnoxious rap? How does it differ from regular rap?
I strongly dislike rap in general, but this horror was something that was probably home made by the kid himself or his friends. All I remember about the "lyrics" was that they involved some kind of rape fantasy.
That was the breaking point for me.
And the bus driver clapped.
I live in Finland. We do not clap.
Everyone on the bus remained silent, just you are expected to be while in public spaces. This is our way.
Damn. Now i desperately want to live in Finland.
My family comes from Finland, and seeing these things make me wish to return to the Motherland
Then I remember you have to live next to Russians, and I'm still not sure if that's better or worse than being in the same country as Texas.
Do you like alcoholism? /s
And the whole bus stood up and clapped! An old lady came up and gave you a hug and a $100 bill too
These things happen! I have a similar story. People often just rely on the bystander effect to let them get away with anti-social behavior; sometimes when something is done about it the confrontation shocks them so much they don't put up a fight.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Carry bleach filled syringes onto the metro?
No, what? Don’t be creepy about it. Just snap their picture and run it through pimeyes to find their address and live in their walls for a few years to observe their schedule and fears. Maybe replace all of their clothes with identical versions a single size larger and put an irritant in their bodywash to give them reason to question whether they’ve dropped weight due to a terminal illness, then complete their existence as they sleep and, as hard as it may be, platonically collect their eyelashes for your album. Just don’t be creepy.
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You write " forced to listen to accordion covers of operas played at a volume so it competes against the TVs playing the HeadOn commercial in Portuguese backwards in a loop" funny, but I get it.
aplique diretamente na testa
Apply his face directly to my testicles, got it!
I had a hero bus driver pull the bus over and give one of those kids a single warning. Told him if he plays the music loud again he'd be walking.
I'm gonna add people that use speakerphone in public to that last. Just today I witnessed a dude at a Starbucks speaking loudly because he had his phone sitting on the table in front of him. Nothing in his hands, just wanted to disturb everyone, apparently...
And let's be real, it's never someone playing Billy Joel or Stevie Ray Vaughn. It's always the worst drill rap you've ever heard.
What difference does it make what they're playing? This is a stupid distinction to make.
listening to music on speaker in some public places is illegal in some countries
So this was it. This was what took to turn me pro-euthanasia.
Meh. People watch stuff on public transportation, airplanes, or wherever without headphones. It’s maddening. I don’t care what the content is. They’re just being assholes.
The flipping thru media? Shit, look at the age of some of the people creating the “content” (I use that word loosely, the vapid and shallow garbage that consumes the majority of bandwidth is devoid of anything worthy of being called content). There’s a huge span of ages, from millennials to tweens generating the noise. Everyone shouting as loud as they can for views. Heck, even if you’re a conservative ass boomer there’s content for you, how does anyone think all these bullshit Q and pizza parlor pedo shit gets spread around.
Anyway, point being…it’s not the generation being an asshole watching the stuff loudly in public space, there’s plenty of assholes doing it. Just the kind of media they’re blasting is different by age.
IDK, I remember kids blasting boom boxes in the 90s, and others would listen to headphones around their neck with the cans turned out so others can hear their music. It's not new, people just suck.
Sus parenting.
And sus tech companies doing everything they can to get kids on and addicted
At this point, the big has grown so large that no one is brave or daring enough to dare squash it. That’s even if it can be squashed anymore.
Nothing is too big to fail. It’s just are you really willing to pay for the aftermath?
But the parents didn't have to supply their kids with the devices in the first place. Gen X parents are getting their revenge on society for being perennially ignored.
Counterpoint:
I got on the bus today, and there was this grumpy old guy complaining loudly to the lady in front of him about pronouns.
She was clearly trying to ignore him by pretending to read a book.
He looked up at me and scowled, but he stopped talking.
So I sat down next to him and opened TikTok.
He couldn't help but be nosy and was staring at my phone, so I picked the most obnoxious videos.
Each time he would show interest, I would flip to the next one.
I'm sure it was annoying, but at least he shut the fuck up for the rest of the ride.
you cocomelon'd grandpa
Too bad you couldn't intentionally play videos that were about pronouns just for him.
You can on YouTube.
they all have this haircut too
Damn why is that so on point.
Because they all fight over who's hair is the broccoliest
The hair was cooler when I was a kid. We also wore onions on our belts, which was the style at the time.
They all look like Roger from Doug
Actually being broccoli would be super cool, but that haircut is not cool.
🥦
Isn't that that guy from Twilight?
Bro never channel surfed the 90s away
Best analogy you could make to explain swiping to the next video, thank you.
Too young to see a boombox on the bus?
You would have a hard time changing to a different song every 3 seconds.
This is the part i don’t get about tiktok and instagram. You don’t even watch that shit and it looks like some sort of brain washing.
Yeah the rewiring of patience is startling. Like sometimes I'll look over a friend's shoulder at something that sounds like it's going to be interesting, only to see them flick it away before anything has even happened. Like what was your queue that this video wasn't worth your 20 seconds? Maybe they should have waved their arms or said something shocking to grab your attention?
I know it's old fashioned of me, but it's so weird to have this (and I mean no offense) schizophrenic stream of av content whipping by, with ads, extremism, and product placement interleaved with micro journalism, education, and genuine attempts at communication.
There's something about the infinite scrolling format which makes us fickle. It removes the act of choosing--
Sorry I don't know what this rant is about. I'm preaching to the choir here. I'm just nervous because my wife is having surgery today. Anyway thanks for the distraction, back to worrying lol
It's "content" or rather it's pablum for the mind. Wholly insubstantial videos that make it seem like you're in control, when in reality, you're just bored and a non-stop parade of flashy lights is what your brain needs to release dopamine. Everyone would be better off vegging in front of a TV watching TBBT. It's that atrophying.
You can know if a video is going to be worthwhile in less than 3 seconds if you have already seen the video.
Oh I hadn't even thought of that.
It is brainwashing. It's absolutely brainwashing.
A boombox is not a toy.
A wise man once said:
A mixture of American society being dumbed down by social media and defunded school districts, neglectful Gen X parents that shoved a device in their hands at 5yo and walked away, and a feeling of detachment from a reality that is becoming more and more bleak as time progresses.
You...you actually remembered we exist!
Don't be cap cuz you ain't bussin' the way he bussin'.
Fr fr 💀💀💀
The fuck does don't be cap mean?
Cap is a reference to the façade that you can put over your teeth to make them look nice. Cap means fake, insincere; no cap means authentic, real, honest.
Your free trial of my transgenerational banter course, Boomer2Zoomer, has expired.
Zoomers are whack yo
Zoomers are just another generation of humans the same as the last but with different circumstances upon arrival to earth. Can't really blame them for being born when they were, you'd be a Zoomer too if you were born then. Imagine being born and your mom is addicted to a fucking smartphone and barely pays attention to you and then when you're 4 she gives you her old phone so you'll shut the Fuck up and leave her and her phone alone. Like fuck that's some shit.
Zoomers aren’t that young, that’s Gen A
I was just using Millennial slang to highlight that non-boomers don’t understand their slang
whiggity whack or just regular type?
Dangerously close
Is that really what it means lmfao? Here I was thinking it was deep shit I was just to dumb or old to understand lolol
All right everyone it's time for an old person check!
If you identify with this meme you might be old!
it's important for you to recognize every generation was cringe because life is cringe. It's a little part of growing up, try to be kind to those around you even if they're younger.
Not really about generations, it's more about manners, anyone blasting shit around people who never asked for anything deserve a kick in the groin. Bonus kicks for people ruining the calm in a natural landscape.
Agreed. Every generation is chock full of idiots, just basic math. Two generations ago this would have been an idiot blasting his boombox on the bus.
38 years later...
But this post explicitly defines the situation in terms of their generation not their attitude, separating the two changes the context and my response was to the context.
My neighbours are ALWAYS listening to really loud Drum and Bass
Love it
If it's not about generations then why is a specific generation mentioned in the post, title, and pretty much half of the comments?
Also, natural landscape? This is on a bus
This post is an excuse to get mad at a stereotype of young people.
Yeah, the people saying it's "not about the generation" are coping because they don't want to admit it's tribalism.
This post didn't have to mention the generation and most certainly did not have to put it in framing that perported it was the reason they behaved like that.
People in these comments don't understand how close they are to the "millennials are the problem with x posts"
I am 18 any almost all my friends consume this type of media at a rapid pace. This is not really an -old people hate youngsters thing, what these consumers are dou g is simply not okay (specifically the unreasonably loud tiktoks, without headphones obv)
Exactly. At the end of the day, a haircut, or fashion, or what you like to do on the bus is super unimportant. Manners and common decency are timeless. Too bad that parents aren't really teaching those values as frequently these days.
I’m pretty sure that, in my grandfathers days of the 1950’s, long hair was frowned upon. This stuff has been happening since the dawn of man.
Agreed, but listening to anything in a public setting without headphones is a shitty thing to do. It was when I was a kid with a Gameboy or Walkman, and it still is now with tiktok.
No question
I remember kids in my class randomly shouting “Waffles!” or “this is a spork!” Because lol so random xd
Kids so obsessed with invader zim that they acted like him in real life
Also l33t sp33k being cool for a minute and “the narwhal bacons at midnight”at the peak of Reddit popularity
The whole gangam style craze. I went to a wedding held in a barn and everyone did the gangam style
People saying “epic fail” all the time
This is just what I can remember off the top of my head, but I think you get the point. None of us are without blame, we are all cringe. Let the kids be cringe too, it’s part of growing up
Remember when everything had to have a moustache, crocs were all the rage, and the whole Scene fashion? I miss that era. Simpler times.
Being annoyed by someone blaring their phone’s volume in public isn’t an age thing. It always has been, and always will be fucking obnoxious.
And I say that as someone who’s literally in Gen Z.
It is when you define it as being because they're gen z, my issue was with saying it was because of their generation.
Jokes on you. I was never cool.
Jokes on you, I think you're cool
That is actually the most wholesome thing I have read on Lemmy in a long time!
And for the record, I think you're both amazing and really cool!
Pssh, I think you all are the complete opposite of cool.
Like really really hot x3
Every time I see somebody complaining about how (younger) people consume media today, I'm reminded of a video I saw of somebody talking about the so-called "ADHD Epidemic" and this one comic in it of a kid sitting at a desk in school and staring at a flashing billboard out the window while the teacher was yelling at him to pay attention. His response was, "To what?"
Gen X and Millenials are a product of that environment and it's gotten worse since the rise of social media. Gen Z and Alpha are growing up in a world of a million points of stimulus attempting to hog their dopamine receptors all at once. Is it any wonder that they can't focus on any one thing for more than 3 seconds?
All of our attention spans for generations now have been stolen by advertisers looking to make money off of it. The younger generations deserve our kindness for what's been done to them. Or else we're no better than those older than us were when we were young.
I'm a millenial (born 1981), and I remember my father (a boomer) complaining about MTV in the 90s and 00s, and how "confusing" it was. He couldn't fathom how the young people could pay attention to what was being told on the account of how fast and abrupt the cutting was.
Fast forwards to today, and the MTV-style is everywhere: YouTube, TikTok, Reels etc is directly traced back to the fast paced MTV style of cutting.
Question is. How fast can we go!?
I dare you to watch an original Transformers cartoon episode. Holy fuck, I’ve never been so exhausted in 15 minutes by a TV show.
But this time is different!
I've said it quite a few times now so listen up.
This hypothetical person in the green text is in the wrong. However my issue is that it is painted as an issue with the generation rather than just plain human decency. This could be an issue with anyone. It's deliberately used to paint the generation in a negative light and is an attempt at pretty tribalism that has been tried with every generation.
This tactic has been used to separate generations and create tribalism especially politically for years and I do not condone it.
It's just how humans work. In your zealousy you became what you hated
Yeah absolutely humans are predisposed to tribalism, the issue is when you allow that predisposition to be weaponized.
Nobody is conspiring to wedge the generations brother
If you don't think anyone weaponizes tribalism you haven't seen the GOP messaging over at least the last 8 years
If an older generation thinks a younger one is cringe, why would the younger one care?
Probably not but I still think it's important to be kind and not prejudice because of the generation.
This person in the green text is in the wrong but not because they're a zoomer
Every Communist and Socialist I know is violently introverted, forcing them to blare music would be torture.
"Why do drug addicts take drugs?"
Influencers? Ad presenters!
Influence you to buy stuff
I see more boomers blasting their phones than any other demographic
I tease my husband when he is on Facebook because my God it sounds exactly like when the kids are scrolling TikTok. Don't know how he can stand it. But he doesn't do that out in the world.
I blame the phone designers removing the headphone jack. We now have a generation of people who grew up without it,always using the speaker, max volume out loud is just how they exist, it's the new normal.
My wife (a millennial) does this all the time at home. Part of me thinks it's her way of getting me to leave the living room so she can fart.
if your wife isn't farting on you are you really in love?
So I've been clearing rooms backwards it seems
Unfortunately I think this is real.
Yeah this generation kinda screw up, social media is real bad.
As a zoomer I still find that stuff strange. Although to all the people saying social media is bad, lemmy is also social media and can be just as bad for you. Go outside, touch grass or something. Better than shitting on some kid who was neglected by his parents and given a phone as a replacement.
I swear, the next time I’m in the situation where someone is blaring their music in public I’m going to go out of my way to jam out with them and appreciate it.
whenever it happens to me it's always either:
country pop with a hint of jingoism
blown out audio from a YouTube video with a lot of screaming
I don't even hear rap or hip hop that much anymore, those were the good old days.
new rule for millennials and gen x - if you can complete the phrase "RonCo Showtime Rotisserie - Just set it, and ________" then you don't get to make fun of tiktok
It really looks like that's what they do. My brother (13 yo) stays on the same posts for a long time, let's them loop for 6 times and then scrolls... And yeah, they tend to okay that stuff really loud for some reason
I've been scrolling through this c/ and I've gotten this far down, I'm basically doing the same. I think I'll stop now.
Zoomer genocide when