I have no idea why it wasn't more obvious to me that Facebook would do this. It's so obvious now that it is happening.
They have attacked every social network format to date. They'll probably take down Reddit using ActivityPub afterwards, but for now, Twitter is the easiest target.
Honestly it is really smart how they went about this. From what I've read, they only started development on Threads at the start of this year. They acted very fast to create Threads. Then after the rate limiting bullshit this past week, they saw the perfect opportunity to release Threads early to capitalize on the current issues with Twitter. I work in tech and I am really impressed with what they've done so far from that perspective.
It isn't that everything they've done is necessarily difficult; they just got it right it seems, which these days seems to be rare from tech companies (including Meta and their Metaverse).
Yup, and if Reddit keeps going down the path of fucking with its users, I won't be surprised if Meta decides to strike. There's just too much value in Reddit's content.
Meanwhile I read the feed and get stressed by people (un)consciously installing Threads cr-app on their primary devices w/ stock Android and iOS, despite them having a normal time with literally any other interface to Fediverse.
They have plan to adopt the same standard "in future". That mean we have plenty of time to check the beast from afar. Not perfect but not an immediate "thread" either.
The problem right now is that ask a s***load of personal information to use the app and if later you want to leave, you can't unless you erase your Instagram account too.
I feel like this tactic can't work if we stick to foss options. They can add all their shitty reels/stories/whatever else, if we stick with foss they can do jack shit about it.
Except that's what happened with xmpp. Google and WhatsApp and Facebook all used to be xmpp. Once they had most their users they started ignoring the protocol and people who had regular xmpp servers we're viewed as weird by the rest of society since they couldn't see certain things and then to "fix" that, Google and Facebook stopped interoperating with xmpp and people said "hurray, no more broken stuff, thank you our giant tech overlords!"
I dunno, I prefer to think people, at least those here, tend to be a bit more tech savvy than the average user was back then. Maybe it's hopeful thinking though.
I used to use xmpp, jabber, and ICQ. I one of a few in school that used it. It wasn't really popular to the general population. I would believe sms and smartphones really killed it.
Do you habe a source for that? I would have thought Meta has more than enough software engineers for a simple app like this. For all the hard parts about a social media they are already experts with FB and Instagram. Lol
I think much like Lemmy you just want to find one that fits with your ideals. Check the rules and whatnot and make sure you are willing to comply with them.
I wouldn't call this a recommendation but personally I went with Fosstodon.
I didn't really look very hard before selecting one of the first few I came across though.
I'm not giving a fuck to the Twitter x Threads fight I already feel great on Mastodon and don't plan on switching again
Then just smoke 🤙
I don't care about Twitter or Threads either, I just love watching Musk have a meltdown
I have no idea why it wasn't more obvious to me that Facebook would do this. It's so obvious now that it is happening.
They have attacked every social network format to date. They'll probably take down Reddit using ActivityPub afterwards, but for now, Twitter is the easiest target.
Honestly it is really smart how they went about this. From what I've read, they only started development on Threads at the start of this year. They acted very fast to create Threads. Then after the rate limiting bullshit this past week, they saw the perfect opportunity to release Threads early to capitalize on the current issues with Twitter. I work in tech and I am really impressed with what they've done so far from that perspective.
It isn't that everything they've done is necessarily difficult; they just got it right it seems, which these days seems to be rare from tech companies (including Meta and their Metaverse).
Yup, and if Reddit keeps going down the path of fucking with its users, I won't be surprised if Meta decides to strike. There's just too much value in Reddit's content.
With how Reddit keeps Facebookifying their UI, they’re doing Zuckerberg a favor.
That user base will be primed to hop over.
Meta may not be able to do it given how much reddit user hate fb.
Oh yeha, that's right. But if they ever start hating Reddit as much, that's their chance.
Meanwhile I read the feed and get stressed by people (un)consciously installing Threads cr-app on their primary devices w/ stock Android and iOS, despite them having a normal time with literally any other interface to Fediverse.
how does installing that stress anything? unelss they're opening their mastodon accs on the fb app
I just spent the last day setting up and browsing mastodon. I love it so much more than Twitter already.
Until you realize Threads goal is to also take down the Fediverse :(
Let’s hope this fight goes on for a long time and neither of them touch Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse
They have plan to adopt the same standard "in future". That mean we have plenty of time to check the beast from afar. Not perfect but not an immediate "thread" either.
The problem right now is that ask a s***load of personal information to use the app and if later you want to leave, you can't unless you erase your Instagram account too.
I know you meant "threat" but that was a nice one
👍
How is that possible?
A tactic used by Microsoft and Google in the past:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Basically they embrace an open standard , extend with proprietary nonsense and then extinguish it with sheer incompetency or greed.
This is everywhere and I am sick of seeing it lol (no attack to you)
I feel like this tactic can't work if we stick to foss options. They can add all their shitty reels/stories/whatever else, if we stick with foss they can do jack shit about it.
Except that's what happened with xmpp. Google and WhatsApp and Facebook all used to be xmpp. Once they had most their users they started ignoring the protocol and people who had regular xmpp servers we're viewed as weird by the rest of society since they couldn't see certain things and then to "fix" that, Google and Facebook stopped interoperating with xmpp and people said "hurray, no more broken stuff, thank you our giant tech overlords!"
I dunno, I prefer to think people, at least those here, tend to be a bit more tech savvy than the average user was back then. Maybe it's hopeful thinking though.
I think the people using the Fediverse is already seen weird by the majority. I'm ok with that.
I used to use xmpp, jabber, and ICQ. I one of a few in school that used it. It wasn't really popular to the general population. I would believe sms and smartphones really killed it.
Exactly
I hope they take each other down.
why
edit: tf is your problem I don't know the context I don't even know what that @ is supposed to mean
A lost Lemming?
The @ thing is Threads, Facebook's Twitter clone
Because threads is just facebook and facebook is garbage as it is. It doesn't help that they have no respect for people's privacy.
Thing is that Threads plans to be able to connect to the fediverse as a whole. So who knows what the future holds for Mastodon.
I would see it to believe it
Is that the official threads logo? Damn, that thing is so ugly! Should be an official dictionary definition of overdesigned!
Looks like a boomer tried to handwrite an @ sign.
Exactly! 😂
Who does the black logo represents
"Threads," the new corporate Twitterlike by the same dbag techbro oligarchs who own Facebook and Instagram.
Apparently Twitter is threatening to sue them for hiring up all the coders that Musk was stupid enough to fire.
Lmao. That's amazing
Do you habe a source for that? I would have thought Meta has more than enough software engineers for a simple app like this. For all the hard parts about a social media they are already experts with FB and Instagram. Lol
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/musk-and-zuck-may-fight-in-court-twitter-threatens-to-sue-meta-over-threads/
Right here you can read about the potential lawsuit against threads.
I believe 9to5mac and others have written as well about this topic
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/23/07/06/198210/twitter-threatens-to-sue-meta-over-threads
Can someone recommend me a good mastodon server?
I think much like Lemmy you just want to find one that fits with your ideals. Check the rules and whatnot and make sure you are willing to comply with them.
I wouldn't call this a recommendation but personally I went with Fosstodon.
I didn't really look very hard before selecting one of the first few I came across though.
Here's a list of servers per topic
https://fedi.garden/fediverse-servers-sorted-by-topic/
Would be better with a fediverse logo.