Yeah I remember being taught in church about forgiveness and love. And then taught about Lucifer being kicked out to hell forever, no chance of redemption. It didn’t make sense to me, even as a kid. I think I asked a Sunday school teacher about it and got a nonsensical rationalization.
Probably because the whole Lucifer Story is apocryphic and was pierced together/made up by church teachers. It doesnt fit with the message of the New Testament one bit.
The first clear mention of endless misery is to be found in a work from 155 to 165 AD by Tatian.[18] According to theologian Edward Beecher, in the first four centuries there were six main theological schools and only one of them advocated the idea of eternal hell.
What I was taught was that because Lucifer and his followers were literally in heaven or wherever and knew God personally, they essentially should've known better than to rebel. On earth, hardly anyone has perfect faith, so they get some leeway for not knowing better.
That's the extent of my knowledge on that and I don't even believe it, but that's what I was taught
Yeah I remember being taught in church about forgiveness and love. And then taught about Lucifer being kicked out to hell forever, no chance of redemption. It didn’t make sense to me, even as a kid. I think I asked a Sunday school teacher about it and got a nonsensical rationalization.
Probably because the whole Lucifer Story is apocryphic and was pierced together/made up by church teachers. It doesnt fit with the message of the New Testament one bit.
expanding on this, even the existence of eternal hell is fairly controversial among theologians. this is from the page on [Christian Univeralism]:(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_universalism)
Also, most of the Bible is stolen from other religions & spiritualities that existed around before it was all codified.
"Stolen" is a bit of a harsh word, it was normal for the various religious cults back then to influence each other
Harsh but accurate.
Dude I'm pretty Sure there wasnt a person going "I'll steal this from another religion". That's not how things go
That’s exactly how it goes. They take from other religions so it’s easier for their religion to take hold.
It's just nonsensical rationalizations all the way down.
What I was taught was that because Lucifer and his followers were literally in heaven or wherever and knew God personally, they essentially should've known better than to rebel. On earth, hardly anyone has perfect faith, so they get some leeway for not knowing better.
That's the extent of my knowledge on that and I don't even believe it, but that's what I was taught
At last, a greentext that doesn't seem to be made up for internet kudos.
actually I don't think OP is really Lucifer
Lying? On the internet?
Sorry, kid. The game was rigged from the start.
If I remember correctly, the reason Lucifer rebelled was because god made him subservient to man.
Can't say I blame him really.
in BC times too. bad times. imagine being a babd of roaming sapiens and finding a clan of dumb Neanderthals
war. war neve... Bonk
I need to catch up on my bible lore.
You shouldn't have fought a battle you know you couldn't win
If you gun for the sky father you better not miss.
First time I've seen the angel Lucifer described as a blackpiller but I like it.
Hey, assbutt!