Spyke
GreenDustreply
lemmings.world

Aegis is just for Android. This is about a desktop program being discontinued.

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lemm.ee

That's an awful decision by Twilo. I deliberately only install Authy on my Desktop computers because they're always at home and cannot be easily stolen/lost like my phone.

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Good thing I made the switch to 2FAS

You still need my(edit: I need mine, but you can use yours) phone but with the Firefox add-on you just need to accept the pushed notification for it to autocomplete the code

And it's opensource

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Bangs42reply
lemmy.world

Thanks for the recommendation. Started working on migrating all of my 2FA over from Authy. The process sucks (that's not the fault of 2FAS), but I really like 2FAS as an app so far.

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yeah switching is a pain, also chose it for this reason, there's an export option if I want to change again once

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I can't tell from their page -- is it syncing via a SaaS service or just out to a file store like Google Drive?

Edit: It does sync with Google Drive and file exports. No SaaS component that I can see.

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Definitely. Having my 2FA in a local database that I can back up physically is the best.

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I did it all using this. Took me about half an hour to migrate all my 15-something accounts to KeepassXC.

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Twilio is under a lot of pressure from shareholders eager for more profit (CEO was just pushed out), so I figure this is just the start of a long wave of enshittification. I switched to Authenticator Pro (Android), which is much better in every way. Can backup between devices, has WearOS support, and a proper dark mode. I'd use bitwarden, but I hesitate to keep my TOTP keys in same place as my passwords

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sh.itjust.works

well I'm now in the market for a new MFA app, anyone have any recommendations? Preferably one with a desktop alternative.

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I've started migrating all of my 2FA over to 2FAS. No desktop app per se, but it does have extensions for all major browsers, and apps for iOS and Android. You control the syncing of the 2FA (either automatically via Google Drive or via manual bulk exports to a local file), no SaaS bullshit.

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I think this was what I was planning on switching to when my current password manager subscription ran out anyway, and coincidentally I think it's going to run out around the same time so this might be the alternative I try. I didn't realize that you were able to use one time use codes via it

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BitWarden all the way. Stores your passwords, stores your 2FA, stores your passkeys.

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Plugging pass/Password Store/Android Password Store for anyone wanting a good wrapper around git+pgp for desktop/Android using a YubiKey or similar hardware security key. It has pretty good OTP support built-in.

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Aegis is a good alternative. Took a while to do the transfer as they don't allow export of the tokens.

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thelemmy.club

I just want a selfhostable Authy clone. Is that too much to ask?

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Norgurreply
kbin.social

Bitwarden can do everything Authy can afaik

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lemmy.ca

It is a bad idea to have your password manager and 2FA be the same app though. You want to spread it around so one attack can't break your logins.

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You aren't wrong and I should rethink that. But BW is so damn handy.

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Good point.

Is it realistic (i.e. is it secure enough) to self-host 2 Bitwarden, one for passwords, one for authentication?

Or would splitting that between 2 Bitwarden logins work?

I just throwing stuff at the wall, I haven't thought either of these through yet.

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While that is true, the risk of someone brute forcing into an account of mine on the login side than on mine. That's what I use 2FA against. If they managed to break into my vault, they'd have broken into my Mailserver and whatnot, so....

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rambarooreply
lemmy.world

BitWarden can generate 2FA tokens? I don't see any option for that on Android

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

Vaultwarden can. Self hosting isn't for everyone though.

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Norgurreply
kbin.social

Given that the comment was a demand for self hostable Authy, I think they might wanna :P

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

Ha. Apparently two comments worth of context is too much for me to handle.

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Which is damn near cheap compared to other companies. I personally use dashlane (I know I know I should self host but I don't trust myself for something as important as passwords) and that's $60 for their premium package.

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reevreply
sh.itjust.works

I love my bitwarden but is it less secure to have all your eggs in one basket? That's the main reason I've been using separate apps so far.

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It may very well be, especially if the basket your eggs are in is full of holes. I always figure, as long as it isn’t a pad of paper on a desk, or a company that regularly makes headlines due to security breaches, I should be okay.

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Cool, I might check it out then. I knew I'd have to move off of authy eventually.

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ikiddreply
lemmy.world

I self-host, but I still pay for their premium because it's a damn good product I want to see kept maintained for years to come.

I mean, cmon, it's $10. Almost cheaper than a banana.

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lemm.ee

That's a good point.

I'm not paying currently because I don't use their online service.

Adding them to my "Annual Donate to Software I find Useful" list, that I just started this year.

I despise subscriptions. For apps that have a hosted portion, I understand them, but I'd still rather pay annually.

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It's $10 annually in case you thought it was monthly. I'd imagine if you went in and subbed, then cancelled the sub, you'd still have your year you paid for. But yah, I'd like an option to not auto-renew, even though I do.

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Yeah, I already run Vaultwarden. But like others I don't really want to combine my tokens and passwords.

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Justinreply
lemmy.jlh.name

I just use FreeOTP+ on my phone. It's a fork of a Red Hat authenticator, and completely open source and available on F-Droid.

No sync, but you can export the TOTP secrets if you want to back them up/move them.

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Bitwarden has TOTP support with a pro license. Or you can just selfhost (using vaultwarden) and have all the features instead.

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I didn't even realize they had a desktop app. I've been using the mobile app for a few years. I was just thinking about installing the mobile app in my WSA install, since it just didn't even occur to me that there was a desktop version. I guess now it doesn't matter either way.

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OK. Can someone please help me how to export?

I have Authy 2.4.2 on Linux desktop (too recent for the --remote-debugging-port option used here to work) and Authy 24.13.6 on Android.

I use mostly the Android version, but sync to the Desktop / Chrome App was a nice backup. If they discontinue this I'm not sure what's next and would prefer some Android app where I can access the backup. I have Bitwarden Pro if this helps, but my first concern is to get the tokens out of Authy.

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