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Weta Book Cards - LOTR-TCG Wiki

From an older post's OP's comment:

Before the LOTR movies were released in 2001, a company named Decipher made a CCG based on the films, and was given early access to the reams of film that Peter Jackson had produced, more than made it into the films itself.

In this weekly series of posts, we will take a look at some of these cards to shine a light on the scenes we never got. This week, we'll sail off into uncharted waters and take a look at the so-called Book Cards, depicting characters and concepts developed by Weta Workshop for characters cut from the films.


In 2003-2004, Decipher partnered with Weta Workshop (the special effects team that worked on the Lord of the Rings films) to create representations of characters that had been cut from the films at one stage or another. Some like the infamous Tom Bombadil had been chopped right from the start, while others like Radagast had actually gone as far as costume tests and casting before being dropped.

Daniel Falconer of Weta was tasked with resurrecting old concepts and repurposing various on-screen costumes and prosthetics for use in the Book Cards, and in a flurry of about a month managed to leverage the expertise of Weta Workshop to produce the images on the cards shown above. Radagast's old costume was brought out of storage, with a new staff created just for this project, and other props and costumes were repurposed: Arwen's wig went on Elladan/Elrohir, Theodred's armor went on Erkenbrand, and an old rejected Gandalf concept was dyed blue and became Tom Bombadil's coat, with a Hobbit hat on top.

Decipher then took the final product and placed them on the Book Cards, and the rest is history. It's an interesting look into what could-have-been, in particular for characters which would years later show up in the Hobbit films, such as Radagast and Dain Ironfoot.

There's many more tidbits and details for this particular batch than can be recorded here, as Decipher released a series of articles on the development process including more behind-the-scenes photos and an interview with Falconer. A summary with links to the 4 BTS articles can be found on the LOTR-TCG wiki here: https://wiki.lotrtcgpc.net/wiki/Weta_Book_Cards

(If you are interested in checking out the game as depicted on these cards, you can play the LOTR-TCG in your browser! See https://play.lotrtcgpc.net/ and https://lotrtcgpc.net/discord )

These cards took my interest not long after the movies came out because I read The Hobbit and saw Dain Ironfoot's card in the movie style. I hoped back then that some spinoff footage with him is available somewhere.

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tolkien·Tolkien, Lord of the Rings (LotR), etc.byarctanthrope

is the fate of Eluréd and Elurín known?

by fate, I don't mean what happened to them physically, the Silmarillion says that they died of starvation in the forests of Doriath. I mean their cosmological fate, what happened to their spirits. they are, as far as I know, the only half-elves who were not given an explicit choice about whether they would be considered Elves, and go to the Halls of Mandos or be allowed to sail to the Undying Lands, or whether they would be considered Men, and go to their unknown fate.

their father, Dior, was the son of Beren, a Man, and Lúthien, an Elf who explicitly chose the fate of Men, and therefore he is a Half-elf also given the fate of Men. their mother, Nimloth, was an Elf. their sister, Elwing, explicitly chose the fate of the Elves, and her descendants were also given the ability to choose

so their father has the fate of Men, and their mother has the fate of Elves, and they died without a chance to choose their fate. it is not stated that Lúthien's choice also extends to her descendants, as it does for Elwing. so there seems to be no clear answer whether they should be bound to the fate of Elves, or of Men, or allowed to choose

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tolkien·Tolkien, Lord of the Rings (LotR), etc.bygipsoteco

Completing what Tolkien left unfinished: a collection of texts re-made by fans

I have begun compiling a list of online texts that attempt bringing to a complete form the stories the Professor left unfinished: not mere fanfiction, but reasoned works that try to stay in the spirit of what Tolkien would have done if he stayed on the topic.

"Lost Tales": Gilfanon's Tale - https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/1uwrt3v/finishing_the_lost_tales_a_harmonised_version_of/

"Lost Tales": Eärendel - https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/1v0u8nq/finishing_the_lost_tales_the_lost_tale_of_e%C3%A4rendel/

"Lost Tales": Prologue and End - https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/1v7qppi/finishing_the_lost_tales_the_end_of_the_tales_and/

"Lost Tales" (general): https://lotrfanon.fandom.com/wiki/The_Book_of_Lost_Tales,_Remade

The Lost Road - https://lotrfanon.fandom.com/wiki/The_Lost_Road

Does anyone know other ones?

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[RoP] [...] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain

I don't like how often and how seemingly lightly various characters in The Rings of Power use Morgoth's name in passing, as if they were talking about their neighbors. It demystifies him, takes away his power, makes him less abstract.

In the entirety of The Silmarillion, if I recall correctly, it is uttered in dialogue but a few times by legendary characters such as Fëanor, Húrin and Fingolfin.

I know this sounds like a minor detail, but words have power and I would like to recall that in some of our own legends and myths knowing the name of an adversary granted some power over them. I can't seem to recall exact examples, but perhaps King Arthur's tale? Help me out...

PS: I'm not a RoP hater. :)

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do NOT read Unfinished Tales if you intend to read The Children of Húrin

I have almost finished half of Unfinished Tales and there are MAJOR spoilers of The Children of Húrin. Unfinished Tales is a must read if you are a fan of Tolkien, since it literally contains unfinished manuscripts and alternate versions of various stories. However, the conclusion of many of these DO NOT deviate from their finished version.

Wow... Had I not already read The Children of Húrin, I would have not been able to recover from the shock that the "spoiler" contained in Unfinished Tales would have given me for some time... 😱

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The Words of Hurin and Morgoth

I just sat down in a corner of the dining room at my workplace and read the linked text out loud. Some of my coworkers looked upon me in awe and amazement, while others frowned upon my seemingly strange, socially unacceptable behavior. But I cared not, for I have recently come to find reading books out loud fulfilling and calming, although most of the books that I read in this manner are written in Hungarian, one of my first languages.

Having finished listening to The Silmarillion, read by Martin Shaw, and The Children of Húrin, read by Sir Christopher Lee before that, I am now listening to Unfinished Tales, read by Samuel West and Timothy West.

My love for Tolkien's world grows steadily.

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tolkien·Tolkien, Lord of the Rings (LotR), etc.bygipsoteco

Would Tolkien have written certain things differently if he hadn’t had misconceptions about the Catholic view of human death?

As I'm revisiting the Professor’s works, I came across these essays: one, two, three, four, which examine—in some cases quite technically—how he understood death differently for Elves and for Men.

One thing that particularly struck me is that, when it came to Men, Tolkien never assigned them a view of mortality that was fully consistent with the theological perspective of Catholicism, and this had a certain impact, for example, in Athrabeth.

I’m curious about how, for example, that text might have differed if Tolkien had realized he wasn’t aligned with Catholic theology: as can be seen from the essays I mentioned earlier, Elvish and human mortality would have been exactly mirror images of one another.

IMPORTANT: I really wanted to put in the post some actual info about the 'misconception', but unfortunately it's a quite technical theological issue, and English isn't my first language, so it would be very difficult for me to summarize it in brief; I warmly invite you to have a look at the essays I linked.

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[Meme] 75% through the Silmarillion (audio book) and it tops all other fantasy that I have read, heard or watched

Am I the only one who's absolutely captivated by some of the poignant conversations and powerful one liners that Tolkien's character have? The storytelling main text is of course great too, but the back and fort of
::: spoiler spoilers, the Silmarillion
Húrin and Melkor, Beren and Thingol, Fëanor and Melkor, and many others
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are simply next level.

Heavy spoiler nsfw meme below:

::: spoiler nsfw

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Which cover is your favorite and why?

I just found a local Swedish copy of The Silmarillion that had an unexpected albeit - in a sense - sensible cover depicting Melkor's head/helm, wearing his iron crown, embellished with the silmarils. Check it out.

I think it is sensible because I believe that it was Melkor who pushed Fëanor over the edge. I am in no way diminishing Fëanor's responsibility and shortcomings, but without Melkor, Finwë would still be alive and the silmarils would still be safe in their iron safe.

Which The Silmarillion cover do you appreciate the most and why? I have linked some covers for you to check out, but if you know of any variations not listed there, please do share!😊💎💎💎

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"Durin" - Graphic Novel - GlobalComix

I have been a Tolkien fan since I first saw The Fellowship of the Ring in the movie theaters over ten years ago. I have since read The Silmarillion , Hobbit and The Children of Húrin and am about to start reading Unfinished Tales.

One of my siblings shared this short comic with me today and made my day. I know the words of Durin's Song by heart and often sing it as arranged by Clamavi de Profundis, so you can imagine how stoked I was to read this.

It's a short comic depicting Durin's awakening in Mount Gundabad, his travels southwards through the Misty Mountains, his discovery of Kheled-Zâram - the Mirrormere - and the founding of Khazad-dûm, the first home of the dwarves.

Have a nice day!

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tolkien·Tolkien, Lord of the Rings (LotR), etc.bygipsoteco

A strange coincidence regarding the setting of the Legendarium in an imaginary past of our world

I read Tolkien’s works years ago, and for a while I was very interested in various aspects of the fictional world, such as languages, geography, and calendars; then, as often happens, I moved on to other interests. I recently discovered that, over the millennia, our planet’s rotational speed has been slowing down, and therefore the length of the tropical year is decreasing (while the orbital period remains more or less unchanged). I recalled having done some calculations on the length of year across various calendars, and I had seen that in the Elven calendar, the average length of the year was:

365 days x 11 times + 368 days (the 12° year doubles the three enderi) = 4383 days in 12 years

4383 days x 12 times = 52596 days in 144 years (1 normal yén)

52596 days x 2 times + 52593 g (in the 144° year of the third of three yéni the enderi aren't doubled) = 157785 days in 3 yéni (432 years cycle)

The average length of a year in this system is therefore 157,785/432 = 365.2430556 days

In addition to this, I recalled reading something about what Tolkien said regarding the setting of his stories in a distant imaginary past:

Letter to Rhona Beare (1958) - 3019 T.A. is 6,000 years before 1958, so 1 F.A. would be 11,091 B.C.

The Awakening of the Quendi (1960) - 310 F.A. is 16,000 years before 1960, so 1 F.A. is 14,349 B.C.

BBC interview (1964) - 3019 T.A. is 7,000–8,000 years before 1964, so 1 F.A. is 12,085 / 13,085 B.C.

Why did I specifically mention the hypothetical correspondences with 1 F.A.? Because that would be the period when the Elvish solar calendar began to be used as the Sun began it's cycle. And guess what? The year duration was 365.2430556 days... approximately around 11,000-12,000 B.C. !

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tolkien·Tolkien, Lord of the Rings (LotR), etc.byNo_Money_Just_Change

Dnd one shot about the final battle of the "war of the last allience"

I want to make a homebrew dnd one shot in the world of lotr (most paid modules are whole campaigns)

My idea would be the prelude to the final battle of sauron during the siege of barad-dur.

The players will have to sneak into the enemy camp and get recognized enough by the soldiers that they listen to them.

They will spread the idea of striking back at the besiegers and during this counter attack either Sabotage or fight saurons forces so that he can be slain.

What are your thoughts on this and what parts of the simarilion should I reread beforehand

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